Trouble on the High Seas - captains-cabin

Trouble on the High Seas

You Are A Pirate! / captains-cabin

Pirate Game design chat!

Oooo pirate game design

16:21

Not gonna do anything with this yet really but I'll ramp things up and add more people soon enough

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LOL what is this (edited)

gay sex

23:15

(tetsuo)

gaysex twin

that's a stretch

not really

Are you seriously defending "gaysex twin"

yeah

02:32

I can't claim responsibility for it though

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Oh lmao

Idk if you pronounce aphex differently bc finnish

03:06

But the way people say it in english it does rhyme with gaysex

@Undyne So nupe's character idea is cortez from paper mario ttyd, whose objective would be "Obtain the Skull Gem, which powers the Black Skull"

15:20

Do you think that could be worked in with plasman's npc idea?

15:21

Since it involves getting a ship for himself

That could be a fun synergy

Either way I told nuperopp that objective would be fine since there will definitely be more ships available than the ones you start on

15:22

So yeah

15:22

I'm glad so many people already have ideas for pirate game lmao

15:22

SIB is going to play a pitcher from the Pittsburgh Pirates

Nice

15:23

You could play as the guy from never illegally download

Lmao

15:24

I do find it incredible how objective has somehow become intrinsically linked to baseball

15:25

From the joker baseball game to the mets, and now this

@Barbaros welcome

hii

17:31

i am a pirate

https://tenor.com/view/robbie-rotten-stefan-karl-lazy-town-pirate-parrot-gif-12378184

Whenever I'm procrastinating at work I start wanting to invite more npcs/retheme the server/work on predesign but I need to be patient (edited)

18:53

And I also need to not procrastinate at work

i mean u can design ahead of time But yeah u should also not procrastinate at work lol

Oh yeah I should post some of the preliminary design stuff in here at some point

19:15

I have a fairly coherent idea of how the signup/pregame process will go

19:15

But there are some fine details still to work out

19:15

Then there's the ship/navigation mechanics, which are in a similar state

fair nuff

19:21

lookin forward to it

I'll do it tonight if I remember

19:23

I shared it with pop and ahmayk previously and got some feedback

19:23

So I'll have to see if there's anything I can modify about it

Ok so I'm first just gonna post it unmodified

21:57

pirate_note_2.txt

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21:58

Here were ahmayk's questions on this and my responses:

- Where the ship going? - How do we see where we're going? (is there a map?) There will be a map, either a hex grid or a square grid. There'll be various points of interest such as ports, islands, and coves - Where's the booty? Likely hidden on one of those islands or underwater in a cove, the final map layout will be decided based on objectives - Are there monsters? Not at the moment but THERE SHOULD BE, RELEASE THE KRAKEN - Weather? Hadn't considered this, I could implement a travelling storm or a certain area that's stormy - Where can we dock? At any of the locations mentioned in my first answer - Can I conspire with my mates in secret if there's moveinstants everywhere? Good good question. I think conspiracies would have to happen off ship bc that's where the non moveinstants are, also makes sense you wouldn't do it on your ship where others might hear you (unless you got a private booth added to your ship like a confessional, maybe I can add smth like that as a feature option- a moveinstant area where chat history is unviewable) - To what extent can we personalize the ship? (Could we have a Mets ship? Or a Bingus ship? Or a ship made out of cake?) The way ppls words are implemented is at the gms' discretion, but if a bunch of ppl submit similar words I'm open to going wacky - How do we interact with other ships? By boarding or attacking, but if two ships are on the same tile I can probably add a spy channel so the two ships can communicate - How do we get on another ship? Ships can be boarded by anyone in an adjacent land area (though it takes a full movement action to board a different ship from land), and also at sea if your ship has boarding lines or if the two ships agree to link up - What happens if the ship leaves you stranded on a deserted island? You can build a raft, look for an abandoned boat or try to call/wait for help - Is the English Navy after us? Ever and always.

21:58

I think the only main thing to rework from the initial sketch is roles, since both Pop and ahmayk had questions/concerns about them

21:59

Oh and

21:59

We'll probably do free word submission only for shipbuilding, instead of choosing from a predetermined list (edited)

OK @Undyne @Barbaros revised notes coming in

pirate_note_v3.txt

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All major sections have had some modifications

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So feel free to read closely

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Oh wait I forgot to add under ship mechanics

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-The map may have transient features such as inclement weather and sea monsters

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My main open questions would be: -Should "skill" roles be assigned by us, to save the players the effort of choosing one? -Should Mutineer be a claimable role, or should it remain gated behind claiming Captain? (I would imagine the current rule as being public info, so players could intentionally make an unsuccessful Captain claim if they want to be a Mutineer) -How can the map (and game) be best designed so that there are no "dead" phases, where all the crew of a boat is just hanging out at sea en route to a destination? -The Crew Objective is intended to make crews feel more cohesive and give them incentive to stick together. But Personal Objectives will likely counteract that, and risk splitting up crews or giving their ship not enough time to explore the map to everyone's satisfaction. How can this dichotomy be managed? Could Personal Objectives be ditched, should the concept of crews be ditched, or should the map simply be designed and/or condensed so that crew members can complete their objectives in common destinations?

Any thoughts?

I've busy

Understandable

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Oh also one other thing

16:30

Dead players will go to davy jones' locker

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And they can be revived from there somehow

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Either automatically or by rescue

Yesterday I learned that david bowie's real name was davy jones

16:35

that is all

Lmao

16:37

I guess he had to change his name for the stage because there was already a davy jones in the monkees

yeah that's it

I'm wondering if we should eliminate the concept of an actual map with ocean tiles

20:17

So that players don't ever have to wait around in transit to another location

20:17

Instead the captain would simply pick a location to "sail to" each phase

20:17

And that's where the ship would connect to

20:18

If we do have a map, I'm thinking it'll have to be very compressed (which is fine since ships can share tiles)

20:18

If we don't have a map, we lose a bit of that feel of sailing the high seas

20:19

And we lose the ability of having transient effects like storms and sea monsters

20:19

So maybe a compressed map is the way to go

@Undyne The real question: Which of us will play Bayle Domon

(I have an idea for an actual pirate to play so I'm fine to not play Domon)

I have no character ideas yet

One of the ideas I'm considering is a space pirate actually (or a former one), Klaes Ashford from the Expanse TV Show (edited)

So I know I'm getting about a month or more ahead of myself, but we should try and figure out what we'll need in order to be ready for pregame

03:39

Pregame To-do list:

1. Lock in criteria 2. Determine exact list of Sailor roles, and whether we should assign them 3. Determine whether Mutineer should be claimable or whether they must try claiming Captain first 4. Determine how best to balance Personal Objectives and Crew Objectives 5. Decide if the ship's name will be decided by mass vote, or Captain's decision

03:40

We'll probably also want to have all of the ship mechanic rules ready to drop sometime before or during pregame, which means roughly figuring out if the map will be tile-based or location-based

03:40

Right now I'm leaning towards tile-based but highly compressed

I could see it looking something like this (this is just an example)

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04:13

If every ship has a movement speed of 2

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I might want it to be even smaller than this

04:14

Oh you know what

04:14

there should probably be one very large landmass with 3 areas or so

04:15

Something like this

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oh this is cool

04:16

whats the spot in the middle for?

That would be a tile that can be sailed to/across, but has a small island as part of it

04:17

So you could have your ship in that tile but there'd also be an island to access only when you're in that tile (edited)

04:17

As opposed to the other landmasses where your ship can't overlap with their tiles, and you can access them via any adjacent tile

04:18

I definitely want to have a tile like that but it doesn't necessarily need to be in the middle

understandable

04:20

there is a bit of a balancing act here, cuz i feel liek it could be fun at times for people to just be at sea and dealing with stuff there but we dont want to make it too hard to get to important things or leave people just at sea without much to do i suppose this suffices, with one area just more than the movement speed but they can still go to a smaller island if they prefer

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04:20

how will the actual areas on land work tho? obviously it wouldnt be like a tile per area lol

Yeah no I think some amount of tiles would represent an area, and we'd figure out exactly what areas need to exist/how many need to exist once we're in actual design hours

yeah fair

You could have one landmass of multiple tiles be one area, or you could have some tiles represent one area and others represent another

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e.g. you could say that landmass in the bottom right is a deserted island, and the 3 tiles touching ocean are the beach, while the 4th tile that's isolated in the corner is a volcano

04:22

and those would be the two areas

Barbaros

there is a bit of a balancing act here, cuz i feel liek it could be fun at times for people to just be at sea and dealing with stuff there but we dont want to make it too hard to get to important things or leave people just at sea without much to do i suppose this suffices, with one area just more than the movement speed but they can still go to a smaller island if they prefer

And yeah this is the most important thing for when we're doing the final design (edited)

04:24

Has to be the perfect balance between enough room to maneuver, and everything being close enough to get to almost immediately (edited)

somethin like this maybe, for an example

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Yeah

yeye

But yeah with a layout like this and a movement speed of 2 tiles, it's possible to cycle to a different major landmass every phase, while also making it possible to escape fully to sea for a phase or two and also potentially shelter in a corner of the map

yee

04:29

itd be maybe kinda cool too if like we didnt include where people could go necessarily in terms of areas (or maybe, we would just for either moveinstants if they exist or just areas on foot) and instead we just included the map always visible in the game and people could like send what panel they wanted to go to admittedly it might make life a bit more complicated for us too cuz it prob wouldnt be instant on the bot if they did it that way, idk

Yeah I was thinking of doing just that actually

04:30

It would mean we'd have to adjust each ship's connections every phase, but it would be cool and it fits with how I currently envision the Captain role

yea

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i think itd be cool and then like it might be cool to do something like in this example map where they could technically go from the top part of the big island to the bottom part of the big island instantly, but itd take a bit of intuition to do so over taking the long way of going to the middle part

04:31

(also we could maybe make it so going on sea is inherently slightly more dangerous/possibly eventful? than on foot, tho idk how exactly we'd implement that without it feeling unfair) (edited)

Barbaros

i think itd be cool and then like it might be cool to do something like in this example map where they could technically go from the top part of the big island to the bottom part of the big island instantly, but itd take a bit of intuition to do so over taking the long way of going to the middle part

Oh yeah that's a really good point lol, it's true

Barbaros

(also we could maybe make it so going on sea is inherently slightly more dangerous/possibly eventful? than on foot, tho idk how exactly we'd implement that without it feeling unfair) (edited)

Well this could be where the concepts of storms and/or sea monsters come into play

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Also, there's the inherent danger of other ships too

04:33

Since there'll probably be around 3 starter ships assuming we get between 15 and 25 players

yea i like those ideas, just not quite sure on how u plan on like

And likely more ships and watercraft will come into play as the game goes on and people split up and acquire vessels

implementing them

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unless i missed somethin abt that

yeah they're just rough ideas rn

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A storm would be like

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A 1-tile thing that travels every phase, and if you run into it then it sends you not quite where you wanted to go or something

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But there could be ways of avoiding it like an item that helps predict where it would be

oh thats kinda cool yeah

As for sea monsters, we might have to wait to figure that out until we know if Brine actually wants to play the Kraken like they hinted

04:35

lol

i was just sorta thinking like given everyone probably might already have actions to do unrelated to the voyage, it may be in some way helpful if when the thing happened theyd be able to like react to it

Yeah

but i did come up with a potential idea for that kinda?

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i was wondering if like

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during the initial conversation and setup

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theyd maybe come up with like a backup plan or two

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like maybe one with an opposing ship, one with the elements or something, and how theyd react to it

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and so if it does come up theyd automatically do their plan, whether it works or not

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idk its a thought

Oh yeah that could make sense

04:37

Also I'm thinking the Captain could change the crew objective any time, so if the crew gets knocked off course the captain could find a better objective for them

maybe like the captain could change it at any rollover afterwards? but they agree on it at first

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yeah fair

04:37

how many crews are we thinking of having? or have we really thought abt that yet

That'll be decided once we have initial signups, but I'm suspecting it'll likely be around 3

that seems p fair i think

04:38

ig we'll see

Since if we have between 15-25 people, that gives us teams of around 5-8 people each

04:38

And yeah we'll see when we get there

yeah

04:39

would we maybe also wanna do something kinda like anniversary and catbox? where we also can get like people to make smaller groups to have relationships there too idk

Hmm maybe

04:39

Don't want to make things too complicated but if there's space to do that it could be cool

yeah thats fair

04:40

theres somewhat less reason to do it than anniversary cuz that one had a broader initial theme

Yeah

04:40

I feel like crews are the most obvious grouping for this game and there doesn't need to be a different level

yea

Those could form organically

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Especially if a group of mutineers forms

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within a crew

is that like traitors?

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oh ok im looking back a bit more at the initial thing now

04:42

would u mind if it made it like a google doc actually? discord's a bit inconvenient in terms of making things go off of the page

yeah I'll do that and I'll probably revise some things again when I do

fair enough

Such as making it so the captain can only change the crew objective once

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Bc otherwise it might cheapen things

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But yeah I'm heading off for now but I'll reformat it into a doc in the coming days

aight!

04:43

good talk

Yeah this was a great discussion and it's great to have you on board (pardon the pun lmao)

04:44

Have a good one!

ty!

04:45

u too

I was looking for jolly roger images (to potentially use when we eventually retheme the server) and this one made me laugh due to objective brainworms (edited)

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PIRATE/BOX

YARR/HARR

LMAO

I really want to set this as the server pic and set the server name to YARR/HARR for like, a little bit before we formally announce the game

01:12

That'll be so good

01:14

speaking of when we formally announce the game, my current title idea would be along the lines of: "Trouble on the High Seas"

sounds good

Oh man I just realized I really want someone to play Hondo from Star Wars: The Clone Wars

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TBH if no one submits him I might play him instead of Ashford

03:09

Now that OC game is in submissions I'm starting to feel the reality that pirate game is actually approaching

03:09

It's not super close yet since we still have the entirety of the winter holidays + however long OC game runs into January before we even think about opening signups

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Especially since a few people said they wanted a 2-3 week break after OC game before we start this one (edited)

03:10

Which I'm down for

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Gives us time to really prep and nail down the pregame process with no other distractions

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We could probably open signups around 2 weeks after OC game ends

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But still

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The fact that it's the next game is like damn we actually gotta run this thing

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It'll probably be in like a month + a week would be my estimate, if we stick to 2 weeks post-OC game

well, the next next game

I mean if we consider OC and SSS the "current" games

03:12

then this is the next game

well fair

Btw I'm thinking starter ships should only be 2 (moveinstant) areas instead of 3 (edited)

03:14

3 feels like it might be overkill and I don't want to overload the game with too many areas

oh yeah i actually wasnt aware the ships had multiple areas lol

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i think two works maybe one for the top of the ship and then the inside

Yeah

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It was gonna be top deck-middle deck-bottom deck but really I think just top deck-belowdecks should do the trick

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It'll mean that each of the two areas have a lot of features, but that's fine since some will be cosmetic only

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Actually

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If we were gonna have people submit 3 words when there were 3 areas

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We can just have them submit 2 words

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Problem solved

ah could work yeah im a bit out on the loop of that part of it

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at current

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ha current

It's in the "shipbuilding" section of the post

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Speaking of which

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Imma google doc that now

aight awesome ty

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12Bg_A6JEmnyIx7GAS-RNkyICC4J2PuP7fF1HDgRpKfA/edit?usp=sharing

Pirate Game Notes v4

PART 0: CHARACTER SUBMISSION You submit a character fitting the criteria. Tentative criteria: A character known as a pirate or for engaging in piracy, one who has been part of the crew of a watercraft or airship, or one who has spent a significant amount of time at sea. -----------------------...

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Here it is @Barbaros

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And @Undyne for future reference

tyy

Lmk if there's anything I can do to improve readability

Oh also I talked to Ahmayk a bit about mutineers

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We'll have to decide how much the players will or won't know about them from the start

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I'm fairly confident that I want to let unsuccessful Captain claimants choose between Sailor and Mutineer, but everything else is up in the air

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We could tell them that the role exists and have it be claimable, though this would likely lead to maximum paranoia and chaos

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Or we could keep the role a complete secret and only failed captains would know that it even exists, and only ones that choose it will know what it does (until of course they reveal their true nature by launching a mutiny or killing the Captain)

i think thats fine yeah

Which one, the latter?

yea i think that could be better

Yeah it could be fun

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Adds a bit of mystery and BOOM BIG REVEALs to the game

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Assuming of course that anyone actually chooses it

yeah, i mean i think some def could

For all we know, the players would discuss all their votes beforehand, so no one will even try to claim captain and fail

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Unless...

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We say that players can't openly admit who they're voting for

we could maybe make the sailor role kinda pointing towards the fact its like "serving the captain"

Though that could be pointless

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Yeah

so the ones that kinda go against the grain would be more likely to go for captain

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and thus possibly mutineer

Yeah perhaps

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Of course, now ahmayk knows about it, but if we can trust anyone to keep it secret, it's him

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And I think it's probably best that there are fewer mutineers, and that those that do exist are ones who want to be the new captain

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Because the mutineer role revolves around leading a mutiny

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i.e. convincing ordinary sailors to join your side

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If we made the role publicly known and claimable, then we'd have more mutineers, and in that case it would have to be more about finding your fellow mutineers and carrying out the mutiny together

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But since crews are going to be so small (5-10 people each), that probably isn't the best idea (edited)

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If we only had 2 crews and they were both big, then that might be the better option

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We don't want this game to turn into a deception game about finding the mutineers

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So it's probably for the best if there aren't many of them, and that it's a secret role

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Even if there end up being no mutineers, that's probably fine

If a player loses the vote, the message they receive can probably be something like

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Your bid to become Captain was unsuccessful. Will you follow the Objective of Captain [character name here] as a member of their crew, or do you yet harbour ambitions toward the Captaincy? If the former, respond **Sailor**. If the latter, respond **Mutineer**.

(edited)

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Do yall think this works, or should we even go so far as to hide the word "Mutineer"?

nah if its for someone to become a mutineer i see no reason to hide it

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i think 3 groups could work, itll prob be like 6-7 right? maaybe 8

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i think its fine if theres like a few with sizes like that

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its basically just as long as being a sailor is also desirable, and i think it definitely is if we have those extra roles

Yeah

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That's a good take

is v4 notes enough for me to read to catch up

Yeah I think

So in light of the discussion re: character relationships

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Do we think the existing plan for pregame (and the Captain role as an analogue for the king) will work well to facilitate good player relationships and engagement with the central mechanics?

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Or do we think it should be tweaked to bring it back closer to anniversary?

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for my part, I'm wondering if we should delay the choosing of Personal Objectives to end of phase 2 instead of phase 1

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So that people aren't worrying too much about their objectives while trying to design the ship

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Rather, they can worry about the crew objective that the captain has set after phase 1 (edited)

Fine I'll read the doc

16:22

Fine I've read the doc

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So how big are the crews

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I'd say 10 people is already a lot

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I prefer something like 5-7

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Mutineer should be secret

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Actually...

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I wonder if we get any mutineers that way

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The reason why there were contesters for kinghood in anniversary was because both sides had like 15 players

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And pre-established families

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In smaller ship crews I feel like compromises would be found much more easily and it'd be clear who gets the votes

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So players wouldn't feel inclined to run for captain if it's already clear they won't get voted

That's what I'm concerned about yeah

Undyne

I'd say 10 people is already a lot

Also I think I might rather have large crews on a ship, than too many different crews to keep track of

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We probably won't get 10 anyway

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Bc I'm hoping for 3 crews

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And I at least really hope we don't get 30 people lmao

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But yeah it is a real possibility that smaller crews will lead to no real contest for captaincy

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I feel like with 8 people per crew though, there's a chance it could work

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If we get say 24 people, 3 crews of 8

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There MIGHT be enough of a contest

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But idk

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We also don't need a mutineer in every crew

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But it'd be nice to have at least one or two in the game

King Harkinian

And I at least really hope we don't get 30 people lmao

I managed with catbox

tbh i think 3 overall is probably gonna be fine

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its 3 opportunities anyways, i think with just how some of the characters are probably some are going to try to be a captain themselves even if they know they arent gonna win And, really, mutineers arent like mandatory to have as a feature (edited)

Yeah

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I think it's like

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"if we really want mutineers to be part of the game, then we give some hint or tell players about them" "if we don't mind whether we have mutineers or not, then we make it a cool secret role"

@Byakuren Hijiri Welcome

https://tenor.com/view/aya-shameimaru-gif-24186756

Read pinned doc

Tengu has landed, as they say.

So essentially, with 4 potential GMs(-ish), this is really a mechanical sequel to Wizard in some way?

well its kinda meant to be a mechanical sequel to anni

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in a sense

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i wouldnt know abt wizard tho lol cuz i wasnt in it

I LOVE THE TILED MAP IDEA

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It's like wind waker

yeaa

17:56

i think thats sorta the idea

@King Harkinian How will you handle having player exclusive moveinstants?

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I'm pretty sure the bot can't allow this yet? (edited)

According to ahmayk the bot does allow it

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But it will probably be painstaking to change each connection whenever the ship moves (edited)

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Maybe I can ask ahmayk if he can implement a "player group" functionality that will allow us to group players together once, then set player-exclusive moveinstants for that group

That'd be useful.

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Just saying, but this came could be very useful for me when it comes to refining my ideas for Moonlit 2.

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Because in a way I guess Moonlit 2 is also a spiritual anniversary sequel? Not really though, I'd call it more a sister game in the sense that both ideas came around at about the same time independently from each other but within a similar context. (edited)

Nice

King Harkinian

Maybe I can ask ahmayk if he can implement a "player group" functionality that will allow us to group players together once, then set player-exclusive moveinstants for that group

So, ahmayk said that this can already be done, albeit via items

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i.e. Give everyone on a crew an item that effectively acts as a key to moveinstant onto their own ship (edited)

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Now the question is whether to just make it a static invisible thing that only exists for mechanical purposes, or make it a real item that can be traded or given away (this would enable ppl from different crews to gain moveinstant access to other crews' ships) (edited)

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Or a hybrid: make it a real item that adds flavour (e.g. a Crew A branded pirate hat) but isn't interactable

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@Undyne @Barbaros @Byakuren Hijiri thoughts?

im fine with that

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maybe more of like a badge or something?? so its like less significant a part of their appearance (esp if they already have a hat) lol but yeah

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King Harkinian

So, ahmayk said that this can already be done, albeit via items

Right yeah, I asked Ahmayk to implement this for DYAD

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didn't have the time

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Guess he must've added it later on

Yeah

(that was supposed to be for the mirrors and also the actual key to the library btw)

Ah makes sense

Some kind of uniform piece might be fun

actually making em visible could possibly helpful too so people always know whos on what side ingame

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esp if we have 3+ (tho prob not more than 3 pff) teams

@King Harkinian I'd like to ask to play Jean Laffite somehow

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as an NPC

20:11

I feel like it's been a long time coming for him to appear ngl

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and if we have some central objective he'd be pretty good to judge

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since he's an actual pirate of the time who never got caught and actually hid his treasure (edited)

I don't think we'll have a central objective like in pirate game, instead there will be crew objectives (like the team objectives in anniversary)

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But

20:25

You'd be perfectly welcome to play jean laffite (edited)

I see

@Byakuren Hijiri jean is canonically dead right? I have an interesting idea for how to use that

00:28

Wait when did jean die historically

He's always been canonically dead in games

00:28

since like the 1700s

Ok the exact year is important bc I want to set the game in the 1700s

He first appeared in pictionary where it was said he was interviewed by Sean

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He was born in 1780

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and he presumably died in 1823

Damn so he missed the golden age of piracy?

so he's a late pirate yes

Damn

he's also one of the best somehow

That messes with my idea to have him be the resident npc of davy jones' locker

He HATED the Spanish

If the game is set in the 1700s that is

he would torture them

Lmao

also he died on land

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I think

Noooo

00:31

Well maybe we can not state an exact year and have him be alive

Ah nevermind

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He was burried at sea in the gulf of honduras

Oh ok cool

00:32

Well Davy jones locker doesn't need a resident npc necessarily

00:32

But I have to figure out how it will work

thougg there is a rumor.....

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LOL

Lafitte is such a fucking

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crazy character

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his life seems like fiction but it's very real

I want crews to be able to go to davy jones locker and "bring back" dead crew members but it can't be easy to do (and it will probably result in the resurrected player's abilities changing in some way)

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I know you hate players being resurrectable but I feel like this works with the theming too well not to use

Also Jean Laffite was essentially the last pirate of the carribbean

O damn

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Icon

That's why he's famous

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Last one that managed to do it

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oh btw he waa hired as a merc for the us military at one point

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after andrew jackson or whatever got clapped

Damn

and he won btw

Guy packed a lot into 43-odd years

I need to re-read stuff about his life (edited)

00:36

but he's a very interesting character

Clearly lmao

"Ramsay compares the numerous legends related to the life and death of Lafitte to those about King Arthur and Robin Hood." Badass.

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also iirc he like

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took over new orleans for a while

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dont quote me on that but I think that happened

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"Lafitte's native language was clearly French, though the specific dialect is a matter of some debate. He was evidently able to speak English reasonably well and most likely had a working knowledge of Spanish."

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Honestly this is perfect for mr because that mirrors my own language abilities pretty well

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Honestly it's crazy how many fucking interpretations we have to the end of his life

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WHAT

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HOW FAR DOES IT GO

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"It's impossible to find an irrefutable source talking about Jean Laffite's life past 1822."

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ok honestly at this point anything past 1822 is open bar

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WHO is this man?

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OH YEAH RIGHT

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THERES ONE EVENT I REMEMBER HAPPENING (edited)

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So essentially a governor, I think it was the governor of one of Carolina or Viriginia, put a 500 dollar bounty on his head

01:00

so he himself issued a 5000 dollar bounty on the governor's head

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"At its peak the colony had more than two thousand inhabitants and 120 separate structures. Annual income reached more than $2 million ($33.8 million in today's terms) in stolen currency and goods. Lafitte for a time lived a lavish lifestyle complete with servants and the finest housewares and other accoutrements."

We should coin a new term - Jean Laffite grindset.

LMAO

So I normally don't care too much about the 'lore' justification for a game, but the issue of jean laffite has made me realize that setting the game in the 1710s would probably also be weird for other characters too

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Which makes me wonder if the setting should in fact be something like

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"it is current year but there's a spacetime anomaly in the caribbean that temporarily transports people back to the golden age of piracy"

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This game is gonna be a harder one to "justify" than wizard lmao

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Not that it needs to be

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We could go the "just don't worry about it" route

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Like anniversary kind of

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And not really have any established setting

Hell, even with Anniversary, there was some kind of feeling that people got transported to Anniversary

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I guess it's never stated outright but it's insinuated enough I feel

Wasnt there another time period game that was just sorta. Assumed

unsure

Plagued Faith was said to be the 1500s

Oh that's true

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Well we can sort of imply the temporal anomaly thing without ever stating the exact year

Why couldn't it be post 1722?

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Since don't know for sure what happens to Laffite after that

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All we known is that by Pictionary he's dead and in hell

You mean 1822

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Right?

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The thing is I want it to feel like the golden age of piracy

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If he had died in 1723 we'd have no problem bc I could just set it in 1725 and still have it be the golden age of piracy

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Now, he doesn't need to be dead in this necessarily, but he also wasn't even born until 1780 which is well past the golden age

OH RIGHT

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1822

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Yeah we don't know what happened to him post 1822

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He's literally the only pirate prominently featured on Objective so far, and also the last of the pirates.

We can just say

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18XX

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Or 17XX

Lol

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See at that point I'd almost rather not bother

Well, piracy is considered to have been stamped out in 1825

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Laffite disappears from historical records in 1822

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There is a 3 year period where we can have this game happen in, right? @King Harkinian

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Give it a vibe of "the end of piracy"

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And maybe give the players the ability to usher a renaissance?

See that technically works but it'd take some time for me to come around to it

"The era of piracy in the Caribbean began in the 1500s and phased out in the 1830s after the navies of the nations of Western Europe and North America with colonies in the Caribbean began combating pirates."

Because the concept I've had in mind involves the timeless feeling of being at the height of piracy

Yeah I see

But I'll think about it

so if you were to do this, it'd be a huge mood change

Yeah

From glory to melancholy in a way

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Same global setting, but a very different mood and feeling.

Yeah exactly

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So I'll have to give it some thought

I assume you wanted to have something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Pirates

Republic of Pirates

The Republic of Pirates was the base or stronghold of a loose confederacy run by privateers-turned-pirates in Nassau on New Providence island in the Bahamas for about eleven years from 1706 until 1718. While it was not a republic in a formal sense, it was governed by an informal pirate code, which dictated that the crews of the Republic would vo...

King Harkinian

Because the concept I've had in mind involves the timeless feeling of being at the height of piracy

I mean realistically though, this timeless feeling only last 20 years or so, right?

Yeah

Byakuren Hijiri

I assume you wanted to have something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Pirates

and yes to an extent lol I was considering having this actually in the game

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But yeah it's like

The 2nd Republic of Pirates flusho

flusho

I feel like there's not much middle ground between "grounded firmly in a historical time period" and "taking place in the caribbean with pirates and a 1700s vibe but no confirmation of when"

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It'll have to be one or the other

yeah

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If you need help with history I can probably help

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I'm decent at it

Yeah even if we don't ground it in a specific year, it'll still be good to have the trappings of that general time period in some of the areas and such

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So that will be an asset

Either way

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That's a detail we can resolve with finishing touches

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The main mechanical thing I want to figure out soon is how davy jones' locker will work

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I want it to be a physical area that dead players go to, and ships can figure out how to sail there and rescue dead crewmates, but with some difficulty

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So either it requires a certain item or access it, is in a random spot that needs a map to know where it is, is guarded by the kraken, or some combination of all 3

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A player that comes back from davy jones locker will likely have their profile altered in some way so that their death has lasting effect (not necessarily strictly negative)

King Harkinian

I want it to be a physical area that dead players go to, and ships can figure out how to sail there and rescue dead crewmates, but with some difficulty

resurrection mechanics kanyestare

kanyestare

18:43

Well admittedly, this one sounds risky enough to maybe be interesting?

Yes the idea is that it's not free resurrection

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Resurrection should either be incredibly difficult or have lasting consequences, or some combination of both

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In wizard game, it was incredibly difficult (maack could do it if he got 10 social links, he only got to 7)

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In this case I really think the concept of davy jones locker gives us a great and thematic way to do it as a half and half

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(Quite a bit difficult, and has some consequences)

will it have enough for the people there to do tho? thats my only concern

It could have some spy channels

cuz like i supposrt it being difficult but if its difficult and possible it means the people there may end up being bored cuz i assume they cant really see dead chat either

There could be a companion npc and there could be some spy channels

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It'd basically be dead chat

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Unless someone gets saved

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The idea of setting out to save someone is something I really love bc it adds to that sense of seafaring adventure

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Sailing to the mythical davy jones locker to rescue a lost companion

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It may not even happen

Y'know what? You've convinced me.

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Tis a good idea, yarr.

Hell yarr

i think this is fair

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id say maaaybe still consider like soomething else something like i heard mention of like betting and stuff b4 lol

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but yeah this is a valid idea

Betting?

well idk that was some thing iirc was in a dead chat at some point i recall it being brought up b4

You need a jar of dirt to enter davy jones locker

TRUE

Barbaros

well idk that was some thing iirc was in a dead chat at some point i recall it being brought up b4

If there's an NPC there they could totally facilitate some betting

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Especially since, with the players still technically in-game, there would actually feel like stakes (edited)

BTW I realized we probably shouldn't have an NPC that primarily stays in dead area

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Because they'd be alone until someone dies, and given how recent games have gone, that may not happen for a while

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So maybe we can have an NPC that can simply visit the Locker if need be (edited)

Hmm

Oh you know what

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What if we make the mutineer secret, but if no one becomes one, then we make the mutiny mechanic public and accessible by any sailor (edited)

I personally like the idea of there not being any mutineer role

20:06

but a mutiny can be started with at least 3 people

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or how about, if a majority of a crew joins a mutiny agreement, that mutiny will then overthrow the current captain

That could be a good idea

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Though

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I don't like mutiny being an automatic thing

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I like if it's deliberate

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And I like having at least the possibility of a mutineer role, just as a traitor analogue

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So that there could be someone out there actively trying to cause a mutiny

Y'know it's kinda weird to be working on like

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2 games at the same time

Lol yeah I can imagine

while also playing a game lol

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Well "working"

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I wouldn't say I'm working too much on pirate game

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more like being along for the ride and here to give advice

Yeah that's fair

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But yeah I think that if we don't have a mutineer role, idk if any players will actually go through the process of having a mutiny

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So IMO it would make sense to have the mutineer role be offered to failed captains in secret (possibly no one will take it, or there'll be no failed captains if votes are planned out beforehand) then post the rules for mutiny publicly (possibly no one will start one if there's no mutineer) (edited)

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That way there's a good chance someone will have a mutiny but it's not forced

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LMAO

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ME

pronouced glue-ste-sher

@💀 welcome squidward

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me when no embed

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LMAO

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Wait I didn't even realize it was gonna be the same clip

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I just looked at it in browser long enough to see it was squidward

eyy welcome

Anyway check pins for current pregame and mechanic plans

sounds good

The current open questions based on that are how best to implement mutineers (e.g. whether the role should be secret, whether ordinary sailors should be able to start a mutiny), and how best to manage davy jones' locker (interactive dead chat with resurrection possibility)

Made a couple tweaks to the doc (see changelog)

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It is now V4.2

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It'll become V5.0 when I add the rules for death/davy jones' locker

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Which so far I think amount to

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-davy jones locker is technically a game area -it will have spy channels for either ship areas, non-ship areas, or all areas (?) -there may be an NPC that either stays there or visits there and facilitates discussion and/or betting -we might be able to implement betting without an npc -other players can sail their ships "adjacent" to the locker to rescue dead players, but with difficulty (it may require a specific item) -a player that returns from death may have an ability altered or replaced, as a lasting consequence of their time in the locker

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Any discussion points or thoughts based on that?

00:37

It'd be good to have the pregame/ship/death rules mostly sorted out in the next week or two (edited)

00:37

(Since they'll need to be ready in 3 weeks probably)

i like the idea of a specific item for reviving dead players - i think it should only be possible very sparingly; even if more people are slated to die in this game, death shouldn't end up feeling like a slap on the wrist

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an npc who visits davy jones' locker and makes deals with dead people could also work

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even if we ultimately decide not to give them special functionality an npc like that would be good to have to give dead people someone to talk to

Each ship could have one

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And they could be bartered for etc

I was even thinking like

04:35

Some kind of relic that can be found

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e.g. npc says "legend has it that this thing can open the way to davy jones locker, it's rumoured to be in an ancient temple in this part of the sea" (edited)

04:36

so if a crew hears that and they want to revive someone, they can go and do that

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The reason to do something like that is to make reviving a dead player feel like a real undertaking

04:37

Like going on a sea adventure into the realm of legend

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And maybe there is only one of it even

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Or like, two

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Balance is important I guess bc we want it to be hard enough that reviving someone is a challenge, but not so hard that no one ever tries to do it

Oh btw

14:32

Clowder is considering playing a 3 person character

14:32

In the jessie and james sense not the dichotomy sense

14:33

Would we be ok with doing a 3 account character? (edited)

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I might ask superb and waffles if they found jessie and james alright to manage

Oh btw @Undyne just gonna mention that signups for pirate game will not lead into design time, because of the 2 pregame phases

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Design time will happen after phase 2

15:10

Since that's when we get all the players' objectives

15:10

And since they enter the actual map on phase 3

ah yes

15:11

see my response to your relic thing is that like

15:11

There's limited phases for a long game.

15:11

We need to consider how much shit we want to put in here that takes time to find/use

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Because players will primarily want to do their objectives

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and anything that takes time away from that (moving the ship around, looking for a revival relic, going to davy jones' locker etc) will add days to their workload

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The map system already means it will take multiple days to get somewhere

You're very right

King Harkinian

Balance is important I guess bc we want it to be hard enough that reviving someone is a challenge, but not so hard that no one ever tries to do it

So it comes back to this

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By "so hard that no one tries to do it" really I mean time-consuming

15:21

I don't think any crew should start with an item that does this

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But it shouldn't be too time-consuming to get

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And then once they have it, it shouldn't be time-consuming to actually "open" the locker

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Honestly

15:27

This is something that we may not be able to truly work out until we're designing the actual map, with the locations and items on it

15:27

So

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I'd be fine to leave the exact mechanism of accessing the Locker vague for now

Sure

King Harkinian

Clowder is considering playing a 3 person character

btw any thoughts on this from anybody here?

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Superb felt that ahmayk's double character worked just fine and didn't really cause any trouble, so based on that it'd probably be doable

23:01

But we don't want anybody to bite off more than they can chew, whether it's us or clowder

King Harkinian

Clowder is considering playing a 3 person character

Tell us the character

They're from omori

00:09

They're not very spoilery but they are a mid-to-lategame boss so I'll put them under spoilers (edited)

00:09

slime girls

00:09

sister trio of sea 'witches'/mad scientists (edited)

00:09

also hot

more like homori (lesbians)

Clowder's 90% going to play an omori character one way or another, so I can handle designing for whoever she picks (edited)

01:42

Luckily none of them are particularly spoilery

Tbh i think the trio also kinda depends on how separated they are

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I dont really want em to go off on their own at all but if theyre pretty contained its not too bad

Yeah

01:56

Superb mentioned how jessie and james had 'earpieces' which gave them spy channels if they ever got separated

01:56

We could either do that or force them to move together

What the fuck does omori have to do with pirates

Well there's an underwater section so there are characters that fit the criteria of "has spent a lot of time at sea"

02:58

And also in a completely different section, there's a character who is a space pirate

02:58

She was considering playing either the former or the latter

Are there stairs on these ships

There might be

03:23

But there might also be ladders and wheelchair-accessible ramps

Also should we add rules for swimming or should players just be unable to swim

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It's a lot simpler if they just can't swim and if someone falls off a ship or walks the plank they just die (edited)

16:37

But it could make sense to have some limited ability to survive in the water in a pinch

16:37

Since a water tile is theoretically a LOT of space, it doesn't break immersion to just say "you can't swim that far"

16:38

Maybe if they fall off a ship they can tread water for 1 phase and try to get on an adjacent ship if one appears, otherwise they die

I feel like there should be a chance to swim back aboard or on land IF there is a land tile or ship like adjacent

Yeah

19:03

That would make sense

Maybe you could do that instantly if you're a tile from land but you become wet? like its like one of those descriptor "items" and idk maybe it gives you some sort of weakness, or not idk lol

LOL

19:19

that would be funny

https://tenor.com/view/wet-jensen-gif-10405861

https://tenor.com/view/get-wet-wet-pirates-of-the-caribbean-davy-jones-ha-gif-17865873

now a davy jones popsplay would be something else

it would

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Also

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SPIT IT OUT AKK

oh yeah what would davy jones' locker be without davy jones himself

23:24

that'd be the npc

23:24

SORRY

Good point

23:24

hahaha

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/765098269755179018/892886606376239104/smiley.gif

That would work p well

23:26

Probably would be too complex to work the actual flying dutchman into the game but we could have davy jones assuming no one signs up as him

23:26

Also do yall think I should change the theming of the server after radiostatic endings, or after awards

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this would be with the placeholder WAIT AKK YOU HAVEN'T SEEN

23:27

the placeholder server logo and name we're gonna use

23:27

During the break/soup game (the actual game name and server image will be revealed after soup game)

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YARR/HARR

King Harkinian

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lmao this is like catbox

haha its like its catbox

schrodinger's sailor

23:36

this just like catbox‼️

23:36

fr fr

King Harkinian

Also do yall think I should change the theming of the server after radiostatic endings, or after awards

as soon as you feel like it

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someone oughta play as one of the never land pirates

I hope we actually do include parts of how miserable pirate life actually was though.

Some probably for comedic effect

BTW

22:05

When we end up designing the map

22:06

One thing we should do is try to think of the locations in terms of a normal game map (edited)

22:07

Like

22:09

Making sure that any character can p much get anywhere within 1-2, at most 3, movement actions

22:10

So considering a 2-3 tile stretch of water as a single movement connection (because it would take one phase's ship movement to get across it)

22:10

And then evaluating how easily players can get from one area to the next

22:10

One thing we could add is perhaps a ferry between two nearby locations

22:10

If we have that, a couple locations that are right next to each other, and sufficient boats that individual players can board, then we shouldn't have players getting frustrated about mobility

22:11

We want to encourage players to travel with their crews, but if players in a crew want to go different places we shouldn't bottleneck their movement through their crew's ship (edited)

22:12

They need to feel like they have time to get where they're going, and most importantly feel like they're making progress

The re-theming is about to begin...

22:51

Oh BTW

22:51

At some point we should figure out which of us will be considered GMs and which will be considered NPCs

22:52

I think right now me, pop and plas are interested in being considered GMs, with akk and zel preferring npc?

22:52

But lmk if you think otherwise

i'm definitely npcing

Sounds good

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Though if we're ever in a pinch I might ask you and/or zel to run some bot commands

that's fine

Or even do a bit of rollover (probably shouldn't be needed since we have 3 gms but it could be good practice for you)

i assume some or all of the gms will end up npcing as well

maybe ideally not all lol

22:56

but we'll see

I think pop and I both want to npc but I don't feel a need to be a super active one

22:57

I'd be fine to be a passive one like in wizard game

22:57

Rather not risk npcing distract from running the game (edited)

22:57

I think your npc will be pretty passive until near the end of the game too plas

22:57

So you're good

atm the only npc i know we'll need is someone for davy jones' locker

King Harkinian

I think right now me, pop and plas are interested in being considered GMs, with akk and zel preferring npc?

Indeed

King Harkinian

The re-theming is about to begin...

re-theming, as in we accommodate for Laffite?

without knowing which player-specific npcs we'll need, some other possibilites are someone assigned to guard a hoard of treasure or someone who rescues people that fall off ships

Byakuren Hijiri

re-theming, as in we accommodate for Laffite?

Lol no just retheming the server

so how is laffite gonna work then

Well our options are either to never give specific context for time period, say it's the late stages of piracy, or say it's a dimensional anomaly (which means it could take place at any time)

23:08

We also might not need laffite to be dead yet, if we have someone npcing as davy jones (edited)

23:08

It will all depend

23:09

A lot of this will be worked out in design time

King Harkinian

I think your npc will be pretty passive until near the end of the game too plas

true, i wont have much new to say for much of it likely lol

Yeah

Damn I'm trying to find a good colour scheme for gms and npcs

23:24

Players will be just blue

23:26

Rn this is just the same orange we used for wizard game gms lmao

23:26

But I do like it

23:26

Npcs do you like this green or would you prefer red or yellow or something else

do it like me and put NPCs always in purple

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and gms in gold

23:28

and then players in red

That is a good layout

23:28

Though I will keep orange for gms

23:28

Purple for npcs is good

23:28

Though we used that in wizard game lmao

pick a light purple

Oh yes it will be a different purple

23:28

Pirate purple not wizard purple

It's actually a reference to roman hierarchical colors

23:29

purple being above red

23:29

both reserved for the emperor

Ohh nice

but purple being more expansive

Well orange and purple are my two favourite colours so this scheme rn works

23:30

And blue is pretty close

if you wanted to be accurate, it'd have to be this purple

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So I'll keep players as blue

tyrian purple

Oh that is a juicy purple

23:30

Now I understand why the dye was so expensive

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23:30

It's because it was made from sea snails

23:30

near modern day Lebanon

Wild

thus why it's called "Tyrian Purple"

Yeah

and until fairly recently that was the only way to make purple

Oh how recently

23:31

Few hundred years?

couple days ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_violet

Manganese violet

Manganese violet is the common name for ammonium manganese(III) pyrophosphate, an inorganic compound composed of ammonium (NH+4), manganese in the +3 oxidation state, and the pyrophosphate anion (P2O4−7). It is prepared by heating a mixture of manganese(III) oxide (Mn2O3), diammonium phosphate, and phosphoric acid. This material is a popular ino...

o no way

23:32

oh that's a sick purple

I think it was maybe something like the early 1800s

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there's Han "purple" from 700 BCE but

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23:33

that doesn't look much like purple to me

that's one deep purp

That's a blue to me

23:33

with a pretty strange hue

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it's really unique I'll give it that

To me it's purple enough but a very blue purple

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blurple

Weird how we perceive colors differently

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yk what I'll ask siivacord main chat lol

Lol

23:34

Nice

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Hmm I keep flip flopping

23:35

I like the purple I just gave yall but

23:35

Green seems so fresh

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Oh you know what

23:36

Gold for GMs works

23:36

Because

23:36

pirates

23:36

obviously

tbh i think when it comes to colours blue/purple is like easily the most confusing part

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some blues straight up just look purple lol

Yeah that's true lol

King Harkinian

I think right now me, pop and plas are interested in being considered GMs, with akk and zel preferring npc?

The first 3-GM game.......

Wait actually is it

15:30

Good if so because we'll need it

Yeah

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We could do a bit about it like

17:20

"so which one of you will be the co GM and which one the npc"

17:21

https://tenor.com/view/why-tho-shrug-himym-choose-gif-20572097

Lmao

Ok what do we think of this for player swimming rules

Image attachment

18:03

This way, we never have to actually create an area to represent the tile where they're swimming

18:03

Also it references Part 4 but that doesn't exist yet lmao is this a house of leaves reference??

idk about having them like die instantly if theyre thrown overboard

Mm fair

but idk

I mean

18:04

You're probably right although the fact that death isn't strictly final means it's not the worst thing ever

18:04

However

18:04

There might be ways we could make it more fair?

18:05

But many of those ways might involve creating an area to represent the ocean tile

yeah true

also, it's quite likely that there'll be very few times when a ship's tile isn't adjacent to ANY other areas

18:06

Because by the nature of the game, crews will necessarily want to spend most phases with their ship connected to other areas

true

They'd have to like, specifically choose to move to an unconnected tile

i feel if we actually give ppl this info itll make it easy for ppl to set up someone to die tho is the only thing

We don't necessarily have to give them the info

18:07

I think it's just good to have rules set up internally for these contingencies that may or may not ever happen

yeah fair

So we're prepared if they do

18:07

Realistically it's practically a given that some player will do something that we aren't prepared for

its a valid thought tho

Yeah and even then, it helps to have a clear plan for everything we can think of, so that we can use those rules as a guideline for improvising in scenarios that we didn't plan for (edited)

Undyne

The first 3-GM game.......

And Moonlit 2 will be the 2nd one....

Barbaros

idk about having them like die instantly if theyre thrown overboard

Maybe give them 2 phases where they can be saved?

well like spaceman said, then we'd need a phase of the body of water they're in

18:18

with likely nothing in sight

There are records of a guy surviving off the coast of australia for 48h without any raft (edited)

idk if everything has to be perfectly life-accurate lol

Not my game but I like it when it is

18:19

Well, as much as possible

Let's think from a gameplay point of view rather than a realism one

18:22

If a ship specifically goes to a tile where there's nothing adjacent, then the crew pushes someone off

18:22

They probably want to get rid of that person

18:22

As for that person themselves

18:23

The only survival gameplay they can do is try to swim to safety

18:23

If we give them a whole phase to do that, then it's basically a phase of nothing

18:23

Except RPing treading water

18:24

It's not exciting gameplay and some players might rather just go to davy jones' locker

18:24

Than spend time floundering around

King Harkinian

It's not exciting gameplay and some players might rather just go to davy jones' locker

But then, we give an incentive for us to design davy john's locker as easier to escape

That is true, and we of course don't really want that

Tbh I'm not opposed to an instant death if someone is thrown overboard out in a tile with no land

Also, from experience, a lot of players would not like having dead chat still be in thr game.

Because davy jones' locker is already something that is on a shaky ground regarding whether it'll get used or not

18:30

(players dying isn't a certainty)

Yeah since players never FREKAIN DIE

Because for me at least, I like having dead chat be a place where I can rest after the game

Hmm that's fair

18:30

Though

18:30

Maybe this game will just have to be the exception to that

18:31

It's OK to go in knowing something won't be universally loved

King Harkinian

Yeah since players never FREKAIN DIE

That's a separate issue with the state of the meta rn (edited)

18:31

~~I think we need another Moonlit to get things going boys~~

Lmao

18:32

Anyway I'm open to giving players a chance to survive being pushed overboard in open water, but we just need a good idea for it gameplay-wise

1 phase of nothing where they can be saved if another ship passes by them

so when do we start recording the pirate game design podcasts

we dont because no mic :)

18:33

and I can't hop into vc (edited)

18:33

even jusf to listen

18:33

90% of the time

Well we can try to do a mix of vc discussions (when it's expedient) and text (when we can afford to)

18:34

And

18:34

We'll do our best to make sure all info from a vc is communicated

18:34

Better than we did in wizard game

18:34

Bc in wizard we really excluded the NPCs that way

18:34

So at the very least even if you miss all the VCs you'll hopefully still be more in the loop than the wizard npcs

18:35

And I don't think we'll need a TON of vcs

18:35

We can do a lot over text

18:35

Especially because we have threads now

18:35

Which have been super useful it seems for designing character profiles in recent games

18:36

But anyway I think it would probably be good to have at least one VC before signups open @Undyne

King Harkinian

Bc in wizard we really excluded the NPCs that way

That's a probelm.

I thought the cat box system worked

Byakuren Hijiri

That's a probelm.

Yes it is that's what I'm saying

18:38

We're trying to do better this time

Personally that's why I wouldn't VC even if I could.

rollovers should be VCd for sure and recorded

Honestly I'll say text is superior 99% of situations because it leaves a record

A navidson record, even

You can't pin something you said in vc

cat/box we managed to design all in a week because we VCd a lot of it

18:40

and we recorded the sessions and made notes of the main points

Yeah with recordings and notes it becomes much more amenable to getting others in the loop

a bulk of the design, especially character profiles, were done in text threads

18:40

but the larger whole was definitely born through back and forth in VC

I don't agree with the methods

18:41

But evidently it worked

18:41

Because catbox probably is in my top 3 of season 2

And at least personally I know spaceman and I can get in a good design groove in VC

Yeah

will have to see what plasman thinks

I think the bottom line is, we don't want to be exclusive to any members of the design team, but we also want to make sure we can design efficiently and in good time

18:42

So we'll do our best to meet both of those needs

18:42

In a balanced fashion

Byakuren Hijiri

1 phase of nothing where they can be saved if another ship passes by them

And yeah this was the only idea I had for this as well, and that's the thing I'm not sure about

18:49

Whether players will appreciate the chance to survive enough to make this worth it

18:49

Because it'll be a hassle for us logistically, and it could turn out to be a big disappointment for the player if they're just alone for a phase and nothing comes by

Again, this game's design so far requires a careful consideration of how much time everything takes

Yeah

18:55

I'm still open to alternate ideas or reasons why it will be worth it though

18:55

Because I do agree that it'd be good to do if we can make it worthwhile (edited)

18:56

And we don't ever have to publish that rule so we can theoretically not decide what to do until it actually happens (IF it happens)

18:56

And we can even stray from the rule if we think that's the best way to be fair in the situation

18:57

The only hard-and-fast rules should be the ones we publish

18:57

And the ones we publish should be the ones we want to be set in stone

Yeah

18:59

We can keep it in a semi solid state that can be edited if the practical situation feels like it needs a revision

What if we give players who die the choice of whether to go to davy jones locker, or leave the game and join spectator chat

20:45

So that if someone's frustrated or tired or busy (or just not interested in playing on), they don't have to stay in the game/in-character (edited)

20:48

And it solves the issue @Byakuren Hijiri raised of players who aren't fans of in-game dead chat

That's not a bad idea

That works.

20:49

It also is lore accurate right

20:49

because that's how the flying dutchman works right

In the pirates movies? I can't remember

You can join and forfeit your right on land, but "live" (edited)

20:49

or die

Oh yeah right

20:49

That's really good

20:53

Now here's an interesting wrinkle too

20:53

If a player got screwed over by their crew

also like

20:53

they don't go to the locker

20:53

the locker is where the heart is kept

20:53

you mean the flying dutchman yes

20:53

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Dutchman

Flying Dutchman

The Flying Dutchman (Dutch: De Vliegende Hollander) is a legendary ghost ship which was said to never be able to make port, doomed to sail the oceans forever. The myth is likely to have originated from the 17th-century Golden Age of the Dutch East India Company (VOC) and Dutch maritime power. The oldest extant version of the legend has been date...

I do yeah but this isn't necessarily gonna be exactly the same as the pirates movies

20:54

The flying dutchman isn't inherently associated with davy jones until the pirates movies

20:54

Whereas davy jones' locker is a staple of pirate myth

20:54

well not pirate

20:54

seafaring

20:54

Now

20:54

what we CAN do

20:54

is

20:54

if Davy jones is an NPC

20:54

We can potentially have the flying dutchman in the game

20:55

And if a character really wants to, they can make a deal to join davy jones' crew and return to the game from the locker (so the locker is then more like a state of limbo, like it is in the movies)

20:55

Obviously, (edited)

20:55

This would come with much more consequences to the player than if they were rescued

20:56

Just like in the movies, the player would probably be unable to go on land, and their abilities might change too and become more in line with how people change when they join the flying dutchman

20:56

So a character would probably only do this if they want revenge on their screw that screwed them over

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiddler%27s_Green

Fiddler%27s_Green

Or if they just really want to be back in the game at any cost

ever heard of this

The name yes, but not its relation to maritime myth

20:57

Interesting

20:57

Maybe this can be like

20:57

The real dead chat?

sure

20:58

Maybe we send people directly to the real dead chat if they die on land?

20:58

or are never thrown over board and kept on a ship

20:58

that'd be one cheeky way to avoid resurection

That would line up with the myth but I feel like it would really be a bit unfair from a gameplay perspective

20:59

To let some players have a chance to continue and others not

Oh well I feel like it restricts player in an interesting way

20:59

and allows them to strategize better

20:59

I hope this game is casualty heavy

20:59

Quite fed up with the whole "no one dies" games

It does allow some strategy but it also adds a bit of stress, like "ohh if I die and want to come back it's gotta be on water", I think it's best if players just think "ohh I don't want to die" (edited)

21:00

They shouldn't know resurrection is possible before they die

21:00

Unless you think knowing it's possible would increase the chance of people taking risks

21:00

And being violent (which would be good for increasing casualties) (edited)

Right yeah but once resurrection gets learned about

21:00

it could be interesting

Yeah

for people to come and rescue people, they need to be able to learn about it

Yeah that is true

Perhaps some kind of tavern on one of the islands?

Yeah or like some kind of old soothsayer or voodoo witch

And you know, making it so dying on land being a way to prevent people from coming back

21:01

can make learning of davy jone's locker

21:01

a less one-sided thing

21:02

cause if no one died in your crew, you know then know how to potentially wipe out an enemy crew for good

Hmm

21:02

that's a good point for if a crew actually wants to take out another crew

It gives out more potential for crazier but logical plays

21:03

and also, players only tend to be mad if the explaination their given doesn't make sense

Ehh sometimes something can make sense so you can't argue, but you still aren't happy about it

"Davy Jone's locker is a metaphor for the bottom of the sea. If your dead body can't make it there, it's only logical you cannot be resurrected" (edited)

Yeah I would be kind of bugged by that

21:03

Like

21:03

"Sure yeah that's fine it just sucks for me"

And to that I respond

21:04

"cry about it"

And I don't want to be a GM that tells people cry about it

21:04

so therein lies the difference between us

I guess so yeah

Also, a couple of counterpoints: -if we limit access to davy jones locker via items, then the crew that wants to eliminate the other one could try to prevent resurrection simply by going after the means of access and keeping it out of the other crew's hands, which gives its own potential for strategic play (it becomes a battle over a macguffin, which is a good source of conflict in objective games, see: mystery tower) -if players want to only kill other players on land, rip any potential for cool sea battles (edited)

By the way

21:06

How do we generate conflict?

21:06

Because it'd be quite sad if pirate game ends up being peaceful

21:07

In fact, I'd be quite sad if season 3 is as death and violence deprived as 2

I'm expecting conflict to come from two sources: crew objectives, and limited supply of loot

21:07

When we put crews together, it'll be with a mind for dynamic

21:07

So greedy/violent pirate types would likely be placed in a crew together

21:08

Meaning they might try to steal from or fight other crews

21:08

And also when we design the map, we can make sure there's not enough booty to go around

21:08

So people that want it may have to fight over it

21:09

Now we also want to be fair and give potential for everybody to achieve their objective

21:09

So I don't think we can FORCE conflict

21:09

Nor should we

21:09

But the stage will likely be set for some to take place

21:10

Personally with some of the picks I've heard rumours of, I don't think the game will be peaceful anyway (edited)

21:10

We don't need mass death in order for a game to still be full of chaotic hijinks and violence

King Harkinian

I'm expecting conflict to come from two sources: crew objectives, and limited supply of loot

For a sec I thought you'd written limited supply of food and I was thinking "yooo survival mechanics???"

LOL

21:11

Nahhh that'd be too much for this game

21:11

Could be interesting for another game though also could be frustrating

it would be cool though

21:11

fuck it I'll put it up in game ideas

I've never been a big survival guy myself but it could be a fun idea

21:11

It gives me stress

21:12

But there are aspects of it I do really like

21:12

e.g. that process of slowly stabilizing and building up supplies and shelter

How does the flying dutchman, if we have it, work into this?

21:12

tbh I could do Davy Jones if this doesn't happen at the end of piracy

21:12

Laffite could be in a potential sequel who knows

21:13

If this is golden age then Laffite isn't born or he's still a wee lad

It may not exist until / if we need it, but it'd basically sail around being enigmatic until there's player-driven reason for it to attack something or try to go somewhere specific

also

21:13

kraken?

21:13

sea monsters?

Yes

that'd be cool to include

Brine mentioned maybe submitting the kraken

21:14

So I'm waiting to see if that happens

21:14

But if not yes

21:14

We will have at least one sea monster

21:14

Might have a moving storm as well

21:14

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kraken would probably work as a crew of its own

21:14

without a ship

21:14

that can't go on land

21:15

though that may be boring for the player?

Yeah if we get the kraken then it'll probably result in a fairly unique design but we'll see how to make it work

21:15

There might be enough "undersea" players to have one ship be a funky eldritch submarine thing that allows the kraken to be a part of that crew

kraken sounds like more npc material than player but hm

21:16

that could be interesting

it wouldn't be a ship

21:16

ships don't go underwater until around WW1

Well if it's a mystical eldritch thing who knows

21:16

But

21:17

Everything is completely uncertain until we have character submissions

Fair, yeah.

i imagine there'll be at least a couple air/space pirates so anachronisms are fine in moderation

Yeah

Honestly, this is reminiscing of DYAD.

21:17

In the way we're designing before the game.

Lol

STAR WOLF

Well I just want to have the mechanics ready

21:17

Oh snap

21:18

Yeah I actually hope someone subs him

21:18

Also I am really hoping for at least one if not two spongebob characters

i just wanna make stuff

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mmmmmmm design juice

Hell yeah

21:18

LOL loving the bones pfp

21:18

Youre in the spirit

21:18

ricesnot would be proud

💀

mmmmmmm design juice

https://tenor.com/view/necoarc-tsukihime-melty-blood-gif-20108910

if there's a fitting npc role i might just play bones again lol

Lmao that could be great

another idea i considered was someone who goes around and gives rides to players who get separated from their team

21:22

e.g. this guy

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Yeah that could be really good

21:23

I think someone may have mentioned possibly playing as him themselves but i can't remember

what motivates people to tell gms the character they want to play before signups open

21:26

is it just asking if they're eligible or what

That, or just character idea discussion in #design and #the-future-room

21:27

I think the characters I've heard people suggest are about half-and-half the former and the latter

21:28

AFAIK the ones I'm roughly aware of rn are

21:29

Liv - Captain Scarlett from Borderlands 2 (Basically confirmed) Clowder - Slime Girls from Omori (or just one of the three, or alternatively Captain Spaceboy from the same game) Maia - Vriska (or so I've gathered from implications in the hub) Amal - some OC probably a pony pls

pls

Brine - kraken (probably won't happen honestly since it was just a spitball idea from ages ago, but we'll see) (edited)

SCARLETT YOOOO

new rule: no more pony

21:31

I think I'll make this a rule for my future games

If I was more of a dick, I would lmao

21:31

But

Am I a dick for not wanting to design ponies lol

Then the rational voice in my head reminds me "cmon it's just a harmless interest you just find it cringe you shouldn't actually want to stop someone from playing it"

21:32

You're not a dick for not wanting to, I think it's just slightly unnecessary to ban a source for no reason other than it's kind of cringe

No actually the real chad play is allowing it but shaming the person for picking that character everywhere in their profile with sneak disses

LOL

us objective players have an unspoken agreement to pretend mlp is not dum and cringe

Us?

yes

21:34

the first game i'm hosting bans ponies by default though drphil

drphil

letsfuckinggoooooo

2

https://youtu.be/xgtv8PWdeIQ

The Fresh Prince of Bel Air - Uncle Phil “We?”

Yes honestly the most challenging part of RP in objective is RPing that I am OK with ponies

i will laugh at anyone who refuses to play in my game because they don't want to play a normal human character

Hahaha

In 50 years, this conversation will be quoted by historians as to what triggered WW3 and the pony holocaust

Lmao

my search history when I have to design a pony

Image attachment

LOL

21:38

"Ability: Fleas You are a horse, therefore, you have fleas. Take 0.5 hearts of damage per phase if you do not use your action to scratch at your fleas."

LMAOOO

21:39

Ability: Horse physiology You are a horse, and as such you cannot talk. You will need to get yourself understood through movement and moaning. Failure to do so will get you godkilled.

LMAO

I actually like horses yk

21:40

real life horses

21:40

but mlp ponies just.... ugh

In case of an investigation by any pony enthusiasts or similar after the game, I do not have any involvement with this group or with the people in it, I do not know how I am here, probably added by a third party, I do not support any actions by members of this group.

LOL

LOL

21:41

AKKRILLIC claimed this post was a joke.

Y'know I'm sad I won't get the time to host animal games

21:41

because it actually forbid the use of named animals

21:42

and you'd be forced to pick actual animal species that exist as your character

21:42

example: canis lupus

animal game be like: all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others

instantly killing all hope for furries and bronies

💀

animal game be like: all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others

yeah but see Napoleon wouldn't be allowed under this ruleset

21:43

yes I've actually read animal farm

How would you rp

i am going to play as normal average pig (scientific name: sus)

LMAO

21:44

TRUE

i will not attempt any sort of uprising

21:44

you have my word* (edited)

nervous

LOL

King Harkinian

How would you rp

universal animal language like the wolf sections in twilight princess

So you can talk but you can't be like "Hi I'm John the cow"

21:47

Just "Hi I'm a cow"

21:47

What is your objective

21:47

Eat grass?

Well soup game's gonna work innit

21:47

and yet you play as fucking food

THAT is true

i have a lock on who i want to play for soup game btw

21:48

would it make sense to tell gms yet

‍♂️ up to you if you want to make sure it's eligible

i know it's eligible

I already did with brine

21:48

it's the

21:49

funniest thing ever

i'm just really excited to play as this mf

my character

sounds like both of yalls will be great lol

21:49

I probably wouldn't be playing if I wasn't npcing, so I'm glad I'm npcing (edited)

21:49

Gonna see all the wack stuff ppl submit

Hold on I don't think I've been briefed on loot

21:51

Is there some fundamental need for finding booty?

Oh no, that's not what I meant sorry

21:51

Just like

21:51

General possibility of items and macguffins

21:51

That some players may want or need

21:51

There's no built-in loot system

21:52

Just the usual general goodies that may be found around the map and needed for objectives

21:52

So if a few ppl want to steal a treasure

21:52

There may be a limited amount of that treasure

21:52

So they'd either have to fight over it, or find some way to split it up

21:52

And if the characters aren't the sharing kind, they may choose the former

21:53

So, not forcing conflict, but setting the stage for it

I think we definitely should think of designing around objectives in a way that makes it impossible for everything done without conflict

Yeah

how many bands of pirates are expected with the amount of players we have

21:55

3?

I'm expecting 3

3 would be good imo

If we have between 18-27 players, then the crew sizes will be minimum 6 each, maximum 9 each

King Harkinian

I probably wouldn't be playing if I wasn't npcing, so I'm glad I'm npcing (edited)

Oh did brine already tell you

Tell me what

21:57

Your character?

21:57

I don't think so

I'll tell you in dm

Nice

ok time to do awards stuff

Sweet make sure to nominate me for everything

✍️

this right here is the only mlp thing I've ever watched besides the opening https://youtu.be/xxAJqvslV7M

hotdiggedydemon

The only mlp I've ever watched is that tiny segment where it appears in the fesh pince of blair

TRUE

PONIES ARE COMIN ON

I have watched the entire 9 hour mlp x ace attorney fan case

22:02

When I was 12

9 HOURS???

Yea

22:03

I watched it in Crete

Why Geoffrey, do you like ponies?

On a tablet

Are you out of your horny little adolescent minds???

Pop tried to brainwash himself into liking ponies but he was too much of a chad for it to work

💀

Are you out of your horny little adolescent minds???

I've been out of it for years but sadly my body still hasn't gotten the memo

💀

Are you out of your horny little adolescent minds???

I know I am, dad

22:04

Now I'm rewatching fesh pince today is a good day

i end up watching it once every three months

ain't nobody call me a cow

why not w?

22:06

what the fuck

22:06

w explodes

snitchdamaten snitchdamaten SAY-AY-AY-AY

this is a black thing, isn't it?

https://youtu.be/yUDfoZGhLjE

Phoenix Wright / My Little Pony FIM - Turnabout Storm [Part 1/4]

22:07

Idk how but I remember enjoying this

Damn oh damn oh DAMN

Hello, is President Bush there?

n0.

Undyne

https://youtu.be/yUDfoZGhLjE

34 minutes, part 1 of 4??? Holy crap whoever made this went ham

22:10

Not watching it though

THE MINEVILASATION

22:11

Hillary, how'd ya know that?

22:11

disappears

i love having the luxury of knowing people irl i'm able to quote fesh pince with

22:13

i've been taking it for granted for too long

Dude that is blessed

22:14

I have some things like that with my irl friends but not fesh pince (though I have shown it to some of my friends)

22:14

They aren't that online

bruh try having your humor be almost all in english

King Harkinian

34 minutes, part 1 of 4??? Holy crap whoever made this went ham

Actually there are 6 videos

but all your irl friends can't speak a fucking word of english

ouch

1/4 2/4 3/4 3/4 4/4 5/4

22:14

What a good naming system

22:15

Image attachment

good lord

WHAT

The last video is 2.5 hours

22:15

I should rewatch this

I can't believe someone made all of this

22:18

The things people did in 2011 internet days

https://youtu.be/s07W4-A7HQw?t=627

Phoenix Wright / My Little Pony FIM - Turnabout Storm [Part 2/4]

Just that thumbnail alone

22:19

Lmao

Legendary

22:19

Timestamped

Oh boy what'll this be

22:20

Lmao

22:20

Also the sudden mic quality change when the pony starts talking (edited)

Trixie girlbossing here too

22:28

Holy shit

22:28

I went back to the climax of this

22:28

And it's actually really hype (edited)

Undyne

https://youtu.be/s07W4-A7HQw?t=627

LOL

22:56

Nice spliced clip there

So does this summarize our current ideas on davy jones locker?

Image attachment

23:40

Also funny 4 / death

Seems to be comprehensive

I love the betting idea.

Nice it was plas who suggested that

@King Harkinian can I share the video I posted in the main server while mentioning it came from this chat

sure lol

So I think the next thing to do is to produce the announcement post, as well as the various rules posts (phase 1, phase 2, and anything we might reveal afterwards)

21:17

We don't need to do that in a hurry ofc

21:18

But we obviously do need to eventually finalize any rules or other variables that will be published in those posts

21:18

Such as mutineer rules for the rules posts, and player cap and signup length for the announcement post

21:19

Should we have a player cap? If so would something between 25-30 make sense (such as 27, if we want a multiple of 3)?

21:20

And since the initial signup will only be characters (no objectives or other things) maybe we can only leave it open for 48h instead of 72+ (edited)

25-30 sounds good as a cap, I'd be surprised if we got more than 30 signups somehow

Yeah

21:38

This aint no catbox

21:38

It's a piratebox

also i think it's perfect that we have captain scarlett in a game with mutiny

21:41

because she has chronic backstabbing disorder

lmao perfect

i'm thinking she should get a roll bonus for any actions relating to backstabbing

That could be great lol

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We'll see when designing for her

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You can probably help a lot with that since idk if anyone else here has played borderlands

21:43

Hopefully our team size in general should give us a good spread for knowing people's characters

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It's never mandatory of course it just helps

Oh also

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Given the actual number of players that will probably be in each crew

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There should probably only be a 1st and 2nd mate, not a 3rd

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Idk what I was thinking having a 3rd lol

probably looking at obra dinn

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1st and 2nd mate sounds good

Yeah lol

14:46

Obra Dinn had a fourth mate too didn't it

14:46

6 man crew: 1 captain 4 mates and 1 mutineer

lmaoooo

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god obra dinn is a good game

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I loved watching limmy play it

Oh he played it? lmao I gotta see that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtiehTyMPjg&list=PL_DoFwR8mt8t2EtvT4xUNLxXFQbu4pqtL

Limmy Twitch Archive // Return of the Obra Dinn (1) // [2019-01-12]

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actually the best playthrough

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almost as good as jerma's outer wilds playthrough

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oh lmao good on 2019 me

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wait

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1 year ago

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so... 2020 ish

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how is time like this

Lmao

Wondering if I should check out one piece before this game to help get in the mood

lol

I do want to read or watch it someday

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And it's a fairly important piece of pirate media

Also right

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Brine isn't playing kraken

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At least I think not

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Looking back at who they've mentioned before I think it is captain harlock

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Whoever that is

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Oh also I'm gonna pin the steps for what inputs and outputs we will be processing over the course of pregame

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GAME ANNOUNCEMENT/SIGNUPS (2-3 days) Players submit: -characters We resolve: -assembling the characters into crews PHASE 1 (1 day) Players submit: -captain bids + crew objectives -votes for captaincy -potentially sailor skill selections We resolve: -crew hierarchies -mutineers -crew objectives PHASE 2 (7-8 days) Players submit: -words to design their ships -personal objectives We resolve: -Ship areas -Player abilities -Overall map design

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21:51

Does this seem right

sounds good to me

So we just need to decide if sailor skills are selectable somehow or if we assign them

On the subject of skills I fleshed them out a bit (tentatively)

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I think if we make these claimable, we won't say what they do, we'll just say "If you claim sailor, you can optionally submit an additional role from this list, which will give you a skill to distinguish you amongst your crew."

04:11

We could also just assign them ourselves

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Or even ditch them

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I'm good either way

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What do you all think?

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These wouldn't take away from the abilities/skills the character would receive on their own of course

I wanna say maybe claimable cuz it may be kinda weird to pick these for people on top of already designing abilities for them

04:14

Im a bit torn on midshipman feeling a bit pointless compared to the rest and also cook may be a bit close to surgeon rnn but these are cool

Yeah I think cook and surgeon are similar but the way they're different is somewhat important

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One does instant healing, one distributes healing items

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But

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Truth be told, they could be combined

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And the surgeon could give out bandages or smth as an item

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Midshipman i think might be the 'generic' option if they don't submit anything

04:15

It's still nice bc it makes them more likely to succeed in doing things while on their own ship

Maybe I was thinking itd maybw also be fun if the cook could like. Make stuff kinda like cooking in games where it can do things other than healing but be more unpredictable lol

Oh yo that's a really good point

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Could cook up a variety of items, some that give roll boosts to certain things, others that boost damage, and all kinds of different effects

04:16

Great idea

Midshipman is alright but i feel like lookout or somethin is a good enough mostly-generic role Nbd either way tho

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Also ty

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Ok here's how I've updated it for now then, still tentative ofc

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Fair

04:18

This is p good And i guess its not bad to have midshipman exist just to be the "default"

Yeah though I do see your point about it

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And I'm not super tied to it so I'd be fine to ditch it if we end up thinking it's not useful enough

04:20

I think having 5 roles is good though because say we get 24 players, we have 3 crews of 8, that's 1 captain, 2 mates, 5 others

04:20

Now obviously the others could all claim the same roles I don't think we'd do anything to prevent that

04:20

And some might claim mutineer if they tried for captain (edited)

04:20

But I think just having 5 options (with one being a default) makes the list feel complete (edited)

Yea fair

I think the important thing is that players can discuss the roles so they can come to agreements on a general crew layout

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So they don't just all pick cook by accident or something

Yeah I'm assuming they probably would do that

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Now obviously the problem hidden therein is that if they discuss everything beforehand they might also discuss their captain votes, and we might have no failed captain bids submitted

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That's fine technically

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But maybe we should have something in the Phase 1 rules saying something like "there are no negative consequences for an unsuccessful Captain claim"

14:18

To increase the chances of people trying it

Sure

14:25

It'd feel weird to outright ban saying which captain you'll vote for

Yeah

14:28

I mulled that over but it just seems wrong because where's the line

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You want people to debate who's the better captain, so you'd be able to figure out most people's votes from that even if they can't say their final vote

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So it'd be a pointless rule to ban saying it

I know

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Toss in mafiabot

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!vote

LOL

Finally Return of !vote

Instead of "Hammer has been placed on X." it's "The Captain's Hat do be placed on X"

14:32

Wait I was just struck with a random idea

So true

@Byakuren Hijiri What if davy jones' locker and fiddlers green exist outside of time, so you could play jean laffite having died in the 1800s even if the game is set in the early 1700s

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Too goofy?

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Personally it's not a big deal to me if the justification is silly because the most important thing is being able to play who you want regardless of when the game is set

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But it's up to you since it'd be your character pick

well I'll consider it but the point was to play a living Laffite for once

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since he was always dead in games

Ah that's a fair point yeah

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Well in that case we either just make it unclear exactly when it takes place (so it COULD be around the time laffite was active but COULD also be the golden age) or just say it's a multiversal anomaly (since the rest of the characters will be from different universes and time periods anyway) and laffite got transported back to the golden age of piracy for a short time

14:38

The latter is actually kind of cool IMO because I like the idea of giving a pirate from the end of piracy the chance to spend a bit of time back in the heyday (edited)

14:39

I know you said you could just play davy jones and not laffite, but it does feel like a shame to have had you build up Laffite for so long just to not get to play him in pirate game

That could be interesting, but I kinda wanted to have him die by the end, tying everything together yk (edited)

14:40

Would have been better if I played him as a player tbh

Alright well we can still figure it out since we probably won't be setting NPCs/GMNPCs in stone until end of design time

Byakuren Hijiri

That could be interesting, but I kinda wanted to have him die by the end, tying everything together yk (edited)

Oh and also he could still die even if we did the time travel thing

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After all

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No one knows how he died IRL

OH TRUE

For all we know he got transported back to the 1700s and died there

Also, he ends up in hell

Lmao true

Not davy jones' locker

Well

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Since we're using davy jones as a form of limbo anyway

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Could just be a stop along the way

Man actually this is a similar situation to the uh

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what's it called

15:03

Unlimited S or whatever

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multiversal contract situation

Lmao true

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It's funny though

Honestly, it would have been a good occasion to introduce a concept

15:26

Having a character (rp) objective and a meta (player/narrative goal) objective

15:27

One being to idk get booty or someting and the other being to die in a memorable way

Lol that is an interesting idea

15:27

I think it's probably not ideal for this game since we already will have two objectives (crew and personal) for each player

15:27

But

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I'd be interested in seeing that used in a future game

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In a sense I think it formalizes a separation that sometimes already exists in a way?

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Like I know when I played as chief, my objective involved getting a positive K/D ratio, but as a player I was fine if I didn't succeed in that, as long as I got to cause chaos in the game

15:30

So having that be a formal thing could be pretty cool

This'd serve as a good way to forgo character objectives altogether too

Yeah it would

15:30

It would be a game where your character is just a vehicle for you to look for your own narrative goals

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Though character objectives do tend to be a pretty solid driving force for the narratives people try to create

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So idk

And it'd allow more character development and more power for the GM to lay a narrative framework

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A preexisting one

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without making it unfun for the players

Potentially

Might use this for Moonlit 2 actually.

15:33

I've been struggling with how to make individual objectives not feel neglected.

So the answer would be to not have individual objectives, and instead gather the meta/narrative goals of each player? That's actually a pretty cool idea

15:34

It's funny because

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I was gonna say it reminds me a bit of games like d&d, where your characters usually follow the framework the GM has set out, but the GM is still aware of what the players want out of the game and tries to provide that

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And we've often joked that your GMing philosophy would be better suited to a game like d&d

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So

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That all lines up lmao

I've literally never played d&d,did I retroingeneer d&d?

Eh not really

15:36

Still some important differences

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Largely due to the nature of objective as a game

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But if you had free reign to design your own game format, who knows, maybe you would retroengineer d&d

btw space I'd gladly have you on the Moonlit GM team

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if you are so inclined

15:37

It'll consist of me and knight for sure already

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and we'll most likely be getting a third GM

That would be cool but I'll see, I might prefer to be a player - I'll see how I'm feeling in a couple months probably (depending on your timeline for when you want to bring a 3rd gm on board)

Probably a few weeks after ATLAS ends in April is when we'll be opening design chat for MM2 (edited)

Sounds perfect, I'll probably have a clearer idea by then

I feel like it would be quite precarious to try to design a narrative framework that will hit the meta-objectives of each player

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Because after the game has started you can't influence the players anymore and most likely they will not do what you expected them to do in that framework, which might make a lot of players unable to do what they wanted to do, because the specific conditions aren't met

19:02

whether that's "be a protagonist" or "cause a dramatic moment" etc

Yeah

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I think "precarious" would be the perfect word for it

I personally still think character objectives are a much better way to go with our current game design, because they do not require a specific meta-role

WAKE UP

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WAKE UP

19:04

WAKE UP

your objective can be "kill guy" but you could end up being a protagonist, an antagonist, a chaotic player, an antihero while doing it

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And that kind of contingency is very hard to rein in and try to control

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especially when you're talking about an interpersonal web of 20-30 players

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DnD is largely played in the single digits

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It would require not only a very different framework of design to try out "meta-objectives", but also a very different mindset for the players

And not to mention, d&d is also more long-term and free-form than objective

they'd essentially be locked into a single role to do their objective, which they might very well be also locked out of

I think it'd be worth trying out a game like this, but it'd definitely be something of a risk to introduce it in moonlit 2 of all things

Fair

However

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If you wanted to collect meta objectives for moonlit 2 while still having character objectives to fall back on, that could be cool

19:08

To try out the different thing while having the safety net of the familiar one

Without spoiling

19:09

Moonlit's objective is going to be quite experimental

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So that's why it's hard to deal with (edited)

Yeah that makes sense

Common objective I guess you could call it

I think it's great that, given the experimental nature of the game plan, you're looking for all sorts of ideas for how to manage player expectations/goals and create a satisfying game

19:11

And this idea of meta objectives is definitely a valid option

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But keep the door open for more brainstorming bc who knows what other cool ideas you or others might come up with (edited)

Yeah of course

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But I'm fairly happy because I would not have considered so far back during Moonlit 1

Yeah makes sense

Meta objectives could make sense as a version of character traits/categories

19:14

which we've fiddled around with since catbox

Oh right yeah

so not something set in stone as objectives, but as help in seeing what players would like to do over the course of a game

19:14

character-wise

Ooh yeah that's a good point

BTW

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For logo

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I was thinking to find just a painting of a ship (ideally a pirate ship) in rough seas

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But most of the images I've found feel pretty static

17:50

I can probably find a good one to use but if anyone wants to do a logo you'd be welcome to (edited)

obra dinn screenshots baybee

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god obra dinn is such a sexy looking game

19:06

but to be honest screenshots don't do it justice

19:06

cause the bitrate is absolutely devastated

Well the one I cropped this from was 1080p at least

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oh I see

And I think the title screen is more pixel arty than the rest anyway

True it's more of a static angle

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yo what if I get

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I commission

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a friend of mine who is practicing pixel art

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to do an obra dinn style logo

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I mean I've known him for like 5 years he'd probably do it for buck cheap

Oh that'd be sick

oh and my rooster teeth friend also does pixel art

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but she'd actually charge money lmao

Understandable lol

I could do a logo but

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idk if I'd have the time

Yeah that's fair

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Wouldn't want to put too much on your plate

I've literally done nothing lol

Well I just mean

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In general

Ah I see

With school and stuff lol (edited)

if I do make a logo can you paypal me 1 cent so I can say I made an art comission (edited)

Lmao sure

19:20

Don't spend it all in one place

I messaged my buddy

Nice

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11:43

We gotta think of a sketch over the weekend

For the longest I confused Laffite for this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_l%27Olonnais

Fran%C3%A7ois_l%27Olonnais

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He's the guy that absolutely hated the Spanish.

Undyne

We gotta think of a sketch over the weekend

Hmm well I originally was thinking of like some sort of ship in a storm but that would be pretty complex for pixel art

16:01

Could do like the top of a ship's mast flying the jolly roger

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Or just a jolly roger logo that contains the game name (Trouble on the High Seas)

Well I already pitched the idea of the binary obra dinn style

Yeah ik

16:34

That's what I'm trying to brainstorm within the paradigm of (edited)

16:34

Like what would work well in that style

Hmm

16:35

Moonlight

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Flag

yea

Just realized that the book trilogy I ordered the other day will make for perfect pre-pirate game reading

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Lol nice

So the reason cath wanted to double check his character with me is bc it's a big stretch to fit the criteria but I previously said it would count

03:10

because it's someone who was stuck on a desert island for a large part of their arc

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Which, although it doesn't REALLY count as being 'at sea', I felt fits the general Vibe of the game enough to allow

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The character in particular is Entrapta from she-ra (2018)

Seems like she's an inventor/scientist/tinkerer type and has an interest in technology particularly of the ancient variety

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But we'll worry about that stuff more in the real design phase

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In hindsight idk if I should have said desert island counted, but I'm not gonna go back on it now

03:32

Probably won't be too many other people submitting with that angle so I won't worry about it too much

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And cathode seems really excited for the character so hopefully she'll add a lot to the game either way

i'm hoping we get more nonstandard picks like this one

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i mean even scarlett (although unmistakably a pirate) isn't a sea air OR space pirate

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she's a sand pirate

Yeah I'm happy with having a variety of unique characters, it was similar in wizard game where such a diverse cast ended up creating a great vibe

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Like no one would call yu narukami a wizard but hell he was great to have in the game with his sick moves

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And I think the setting for this should do the work of unifying all of these characters into a cohesive atmosphere

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e.g. a character like entrapta could be a valuable member of a crew if she has a workshop on their ship and can create items for her teammates to use

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But of course that'll depend on what the players submit for their ship design words

are they gonna get to make the area image?

Probably not?

03:41

But maybe

03:41

Actually I just remembered the images were player-created in anniversary

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So yeah maybe

BIGASS

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Hahahaha

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Classic

Oh btw for when we announce the game should we do the spongebob theme opening as a bit leading into it

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Or should we do a bit introducing the fact that we have 3 gms (pop's suggestion from earlier)

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I think there was another suggestion at some point but I forgor

King Harkinian

Oh btw for when we announce the game should we do the spongebob theme opening as a bit leading into it

This would just be from "are you ready kids" through "oooohhhhhh" not the actual song

we should do the spunchbop

https://tenor.com/view/aluminum-can-aluminum-can-spongebob-spongebob-turn-into-can-gif-21980342

spunch

letsfuckinggoooooo

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here's one logo idea I had, a jolly roger flag floating in water reflecting the night

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14:32

epic witcher reference!

Oh that's p cool

I could def vibe with that

other ideas are welcome

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I can do multiple sketches and then we can decide which one to send in

My idea was gonna be something like this (mast with jolly roger against clouded moon) but honestly yours carries more impact

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15:42

Mine feels like a static image while yours tells a story

Let's hear from others too

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I'm not opposed to that

Btw

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The obra dinn pocketwatch should be an item in the game

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Lets you view a previous rollover

so TRUE

So any other ideas? Good with sending either of these?

The only other thing that comes to mind is like

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A cool angle of an oncoming ship maybe

Not much to work with

Yeah I guess

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This is a terrible mockup but it's kind of what I was thinking of

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18:50

I think the first two are best to send

I'll send all

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Could even combine 1 and 3 idk

Ooh interesting, you could propose doing that but I think 1 has the most effect on its own (unless 3 was incorporated in a v interesting way)

BTW I'm trying to start writing up the pregame phase guidelines

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e.g.

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PHASE 1 RULES For Phase 1, you will be placed in an area together with the other members of your Crew. Your goal will be to obtain a role within the Crew, and have your say in choosing a Crew Objective. --Role Information-- There are two baseline roles: **Captain** and **Sailor**. Each Crew can only have one Captain. The **Captain** can: -Set the initial Crew Objective -Change the Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game -Choose up to two Mates (First and Second) -Change each Mate 1 time during the game -Have the Crew Objective count for their Personal Objective (optional) -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board -Move on and off their own ship using a !moveinstant **Sailors** can: -Choose a secondary Skill Role during this phase's rollover, which each grant special Skills -Move on and off their own ship using a `!moveinstant` Skill Roles available to Sailors consist of the following options: Lookout, Surgeon, Boatswain, Cook, and Midshipman. Each Skill Role will, as the name implies, grant a special Skill to reflect that role in the Crew. There can be more than one Sailor with a given Skill Role. If none is selected, the default is Midshipman. There are also two unclaimable Skill Roles: First and Second Mate. These roles are given out by the Captain, and replace whatever Skill Role the chosen players may have claimed. In addition to baseline Sailor abilities, **Mates** can: -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board, if the Captain is not on board -Apply a boost each phase to either their own roll, or the Captain's -Inherit the Captaincy if the original Captain dies --Phase Information-- The recipient of the Captaincy will be decided by a vote. Discussion will happen during this phase. You may be inclined to support the candidate with the proposed Crew Objective you support the most. At the end of this phase, you will submit your role claim.

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If you claim Captain, this will include your Crew Objective. If you claim Sailor, this will include your vote for Captain. --Action Items-- If you claim **Captain**, please format your `!do` action this phase as follows: `\`` !do Claim Captain Crew Objective: <Crew Objective of choice> First Mate: <character of choice> Second Mate: <character of choice> `\`` If you claim **Sailor**, please format your `!do` action this phase as follows: `\`` !do Claim Sailor Captain Vote: <character of choice> Skill Role: <role of choice> `\`` There is no penalty for claiming Captain and losing the vote. If this occurs, you will have another chance to choose a role during rollover. Please message a GM if you have any questions about these rules.

(edited)

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Anybody have any feedback on this

I've got some

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I'm going to my sauna now

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I'll check it out afterwards

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That's my feedback

this is cool i like it i think the only thing thatd confuse me is the "Mate assignment" but yea otherwise this is good

Oh yeah that makes it sound like they're given assignments lol

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I'll change that

Hm I think if we went with the above rules, they would imply that regular Sailors can't make their personal objective the same as the crew objective

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So the question is

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Should we do that, and have 'double-counting objective' be a perk of being a captain? Or is 'setting the objective' enough of a perk, and we should allow sailors to also have a double-counting objective?

I'm sitting on the phase 2 draft as well now but I'll wait until we've discussed the phase 1 stuff more

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I do want to note this bit from the end of the phase 1 draft:

There is no penalty for claiming Captain and losing the vote. If this occurs, you will have another chance to choose a role during rollover.

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Do we think this is enough so that people will hopefully claim captain even if they think they might lose? (edited)

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And to sort of hint at the existence of another role

There's no info on how to vote

There is

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But perhaps it's not obvious

Oh I see there

It's contained under the sailor section of action items

It's in the same action

Yea

21:03

Maybe that can be pointed out better

A cook role? Didn't pirates only eat hardtack?

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That and salt pork.

Real life hardcore pirates sure, but not all crews will be pirates and ship's cooks did exist (edited)

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It'd be a bit cruel to say that whatever crew is mainly pirates can't have a cook

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Historicity will be nodded to in this game and incorporated where possible, but we're not going to bend over backwards for it

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And I have no problem violating it if any of us so desires

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After all, my inspiration for this game comes from childhood romanticised pirate stories

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It was never going to be about gritty realism

fair yeah

But for example we can definitely have some of the food items be inspired by historical stuff

OK I added a little line to make it clearer that votes are part of the !do action

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Now have a look at phase 2 writeup

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PHASE 2 RULES For Phase 2, you will be placed in one of two areas of your Crew's under-construction ship. These areas are (and will remain) connected by `!moveinstant`. Your goal will be to contribute to your ship's design, and additionally, choose your own Personal Objective. --Shipbuilding Information-- Each member of the Crew will be able to submit 2 words to be used in the design of the ship's areas. These may be used to formulate mechanical features (such as weapons) or aesthetic features. A player may choose to apply one word to each area, apply both to the same area, or specify no particular area. The ship's name may also be discussed this phase. The Captain will submit the final choice of name. Ship mechanics will be posted at the beginning of Phase 3, but do note that ships will be able to take damage and have movement speed modifiers. --Personal Objective Information-- Each player will submit a Personal Objective at the end of this phase. This will be an additional goal for just your character, on top of the Crew Objective. You may choose to make it the same as your Crew Objective. --Action Items-- If you are a **Sailor**, please format your `!do` action as follows: `\`` !do Design Words: <word 1> (<area>), <word 2> (<area>) Personal Objective: <objective of choice, or "Same as Crew Objective"> `\`` If you are **Captain**, please format your `!do` action as follows: `\`` !do Ship Name: <name of choice> Design Words: <word 1> (<area, if applicable>), <word 2> (<area, if applicable>) Personal Objective: <objective of choice, or "Same as Crew Objective"> `\``

(edited)

01:48

This writeup, unlike the previous one, includes allowance for Sailors to have their crew objective count for their personal

01:48

Just to force the issue a bit

King Harkinian

Hm I think if we went with the above rules, they would imply that regular Sailors can't make their personal objective the same as the crew objective

I really am not sure which I prefer (see this trio of messages)

01:49

Any opinions?

Oh also

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I knew this series was gonna be nautical

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But I didn't even realize

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THERE ARE ACTUALLY PIRATES IN IT YES LET'S GO

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I feel the same way about pirates rn as I did about wizards when we were running wizard game

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as in they are the best thing ever

Lmao

Damn just realized signups are probably opening in less than a week (next monday

)

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Pirate time is approaching

yarr

pizza time

yo pirate pizza?

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PIZZA DAYYYY

you wouldnt pirate a pizza

17:43

so whats the general idea for sorting ppl into crews? as thatll also be coming up soonish

I think we'll be trying to think of characters that have something in common

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e.g. if we somehow got a perfect split of criteria 1/2/3 submissions, we could sort them into crews based on that

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pirates, sailing crew members, seafarers/sea creatures

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But it's very up in the air until we know what characters we have to work with

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We could also split it roughly like evil/neutral/good

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or lawful/neutral/chaotic

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Or we could be more chaotic ourselves and mix up the crews more to create interesting dynamics

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e.g. putting pirate peter griffin in a crew with vriska

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We could also completely randomize it but I like the idea of going for something in common/character dynamics

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Do yall have any preference?

well i think top priority would be nice to have the former thing

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with the diff categories

18:05

im a bit mixed about the evil/good and lawful/chaotic cuz ideally they have maybe a better mix of like possible mutineers and stuff? but we'll see, its possible that could make for a fun dynamic too if there was one with more

18:05

ur right itll depend on the subs we get tho

18:07

tho it may depend on who ppl might want to be around, as well

18:07

cuz like in a sense its kinda like picking where ppl go in the map but before it

Yeah that's true

We should hope that people will spend a good amount of time with their crews and form bonds within the first two phases that carry on throughout the game

18:52

So we should try to put interesting combos of people together

Btw vault should definitely be named treasure-chest

so true

gotta think of good names for bot command channel and action log

15:25

maybe just ships-log for the latter

what the absolute fuck my mate went ham on this (said he'd finish it first then work on our logo)

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15:27

I'm just in awe at the sheer basedness of this art

WHOA

15:27

That's so good

NO I SWORE

LMAO

15:27

LMAO

15:27

OWNED

I was so excited... but hey I'll continue

OWNED

I'll take that as strike one

But yeah this art ROCKS

15:27

Cave story OWNS

so does castle in the sky my dude

15:28

they both own and they both work so well together

Ah I was wondering what the other source was

15:28

Not my fault I never watched more ghibli as a kid

you gotta see it

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I recently mentioned it to my mom when we were gonna watch porco rosso, and she didn't even know what studio ghibli was

rip my dude

15:29

at least you saw the best movie ever made porco rosso

true

15:29

it made an appearance in dunkey's recent collage of movies he recommends

15:29

Just like michael bolton, turns out he is a major cinephile

Yeah I saw that video

15:30

was happy to see good stuff like porco, stalker, etc

15:30

You haven't seen stalker right?

I have not

You gotta

I've probably seen only around 1/10 of classic films

15:31

Maybe you can put it on in this wave of movie nights

15:31

Speaking of which I've gotta think of my own pick

Hmm I don't know maybe

15:31

I may show Solaris instead

15:31

also by andrej tarkovsky

15:31

but I've been meaning to watch it with Koo

King Harkinian

Just like michael bolton, turns out he is a major cinephile

Also I just want to point out that this reference is topical

15:32

Because pirate game

Lol

Just rewatched that music video

15:37

Still iconic

also koo said he might play as nausicaa

17:14

who flies on an air glider and goes on airships in the movie

yeaaah nevermind I'm not making the logo lol

well yeah since we already sent the sketch to my friend a couple days ago

yeah yeah

17:26

This is a roundabout way to say that your friend's art is so much better than anything I could pump out (edited)

17:27

Which in itself is also a roundabout way to say that your friend's artstyle is really good.

Oh nah that's nothing your logos are great

17:28

but if we were going for an obra dinn style then a pixel artist is best

Lmao sib asked if this character is viable https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/916347108406202430/933435433352839228/lookatthestar.PNG

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19:04

I said yes because they have a sailor hat and are found on a boat throughout the game mode (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PRIdexvG5E) (edited)

19:04

But I just have to mention how much of a sibcore character this would be lmao

TRUE

19:07

Sib plays the most inconcequential irrelevant characters sometimes

19:07

and makes it work nonetheless (edited)

yeah lmao

19:09

Inb4 this thing becomes the breakout hit character of pirate game

bro be stuck in cargo criteria (edited)

True lol

LMAO

19:13

sib likes to play tiny floating gremlins

19:13

this would be the third time i think

YEah I think so hahaha

19:14

maybe even the fourth if dream stone spirit floated

i was thinking drifloon, dss, and this guy

Oh I was thinking of drifblim as well but I guess they were a medium sized floating gremlin

19:16

and not really a gremlin

drifblim was floating but not tiny or a gremlin

19:16

he made a good paella

true

id count dry bones too

19:17

and spitz

1

how

gremlins

ok true

yeah

19:17

Shared vibe

You ever get hit with the

19:18

"why am I doing this? Why am I hosting objective games? Shouldn't I be using time all my time to be better at school/work?"

Hmm

19:19

As someone who is done school and currently has a job I'm happy with

19:19

Not really

recently it's been more of a "why am i being productive, i should be roleplaying as living food right now"

19:19

because of the break

Then it devolves into "why do I even do things what even is the point of anything?"

My job pays the bills and I like it but doing stuff like this (and writing, and making music, and being social with people) is what I really enjoy

19:19

So

19:20

I will do as much as I can that isn't work as long as it doesn't actively harm my employment and chances of getting raises

So true

19:20

I have plenty of free time from uni so I'm glad to spend it on stuff like this

i have too much free time

19:21

because i'm not enrolled in a french boarding school please

please

smirk2

1

19:25

i would only wish french boarding school upon my worst enemy

thanks for the support

how are you holding up anyway

uh

19:26

it's complicated

school wise

Oh straight B student I guess

19:27

that's how it'd translate

19:28

nevermind according to this chart i'm straight A

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19:28

I have an average score of 14.30

19:28

/20

19:30

And yet I still get called a lazy wanker by my mom at times lol

oh you use an out of 20 scale over there

19:30

wack

yeah

19:30

well tbh I have german homework due for tommorrow I'm just

19:30

not gonna give in

19:30

because it's too hard for me

das poopenfarten

It's an oral presentation that's like

19:31

3 minutes long

19:31

where you have to speak without notes

19:32

I can't do that unless I learn a text by heart

19:32

and I don't want to do that

19:32

Is that understandable or am I lazy

It's understandable that seems like a pretty hefty assignment

it's understandable, i could barely speak for 30 seconds straight without notes in spanish

I'm just going to get berated for it though

Maybe it's my university brain talking but it's OK to not do an assignment or test that's too overwhelming (as long as you can take the hit to your grade)

by my professor and boarding school and mom so dang (edited)

King Harkinian

Maybe it's my university brain talking but it's OK to not do an assignment or test that's too overwhelming (as long as you can take the hit to your grade)

Yeah I can afford a 0

yeah if your grade can afford it i guess dw about it

my worst grade this year is like a 7/20

19:35

so like, a D

19:36

Thanks for the support guys

19:36

It means a lot.

np man

yeah np

if bones isn't an npc he should get at least a cameo

Agreed

20:51

Unless there's a dire need for you to play a specific npc you can probably play bones

since this is a really big game i might bring my alt in for another npc, depending on how the gms feel about gmnpcing

I think all 3 of us are planning to gmnpc, but if we need another on top of that you'd be welcome to double dip

k

I'd gladly double dip with my alt too

King Harkinian

THERE ARE ACTUALLY PIRATES IN IT YES LET'S GO

This book is already really good

15:14

Robin Hobb is such a great character writer

15:15

And she also has built such a realistic-feeling world while simultaneously capturing the wonder and excitement of the sea

15:16

And adding in some really original fantasy elements

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wokou

Wokou (Chinese: 倭寇; pinyin: Wōkòu; Japanese: Wakō; Korean: 왜구 Waegu), which literally translates to "Japanese pirates" or "dwarf pirates", were pirates who raided the coastlines of China and Korea from the 13th century to the 16th century. The wokou came from Japanese, Korean, and Chinese ethnicities which varied over time and raided the mainlan...

"Japanese pirates" or "dwarf pirates" lmao

19:36

Damn those pirates were eating good from 1522-1566

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19:36

Got their own separate article and everything

19:42

Man I'm rabbit holing again with this article about the jiajing era raids

19:42

Can't believe the portuguese of all people are involved

what do you mean of all people

And it's a reality check to be reminded that firearms were already being proliferated in the 1500s

iirc the portuguese were the first to sail to japan initially (edited)

See I only knew that the portuguese were one of the most prevalent explorationary european cultures, I didn't know that they alone were the primary western presence in japan/china for seemingly decades

King Harkinian

And it's a reality check to be reminded that firearms were already being proliferated in the 1500s

Japan unified mainly due to the Portuguese introducing muskets.

I know a good amount of some parts of history, and very little about others

19:44

And east asian history is an area where I'm lacking

just watch history of japan

Late Sengoku Jidai battles were fought with guns

Yeah that makes sense

19:46

It just always is jarring whenever something reminds me of how early guns came about

19:47

I love history but I spent 5 years learning about circuits and computers so my humanities education is lacking (edited)

I wouldn't consider myself good at history but definitely better than the average person

19:48

As in if you take the dunning kruger effect I'm past mount stupid

19:48

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Yeah you're in that zone that's comparable to people that play smash not enough to win tournaments or make it big, but enough that they can't play anybody casually because they're so much better

19:49

And can hold their own in local tournaments (edited)

talking of smash, I remember when I like

19:49

played Snowva in Ultimate

19:49

and rested her 4 times in a row with puff

19:50

You can ask me history stuff any day btw space

19:50

I'd be glad to try and answer

19:51

do check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zheng_He

Zheng He (Chinese: 郑和; 1371 – 1433 or 1435) was a Chinese mariner, explorer, diplomat, fleet admiral, and court eunuch during China's early Ming dynasty. He was originally born as Ma He in a Muslim family and later adopted the surname Zheng conferred by the Yongle Emperor. Zheng commanded expeditionary treasure voyages to Southeast Asia, the Ind...

My history knowledge is mainly based on relevance to development

19:53

so mainly political, social and economic history (edited)

King Harkinian

This book is already really good

Ok this book is officially based

15:33

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/341001253440061451/934108056634138694/20220121_103039.jpg

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lol

Damn we really are 2-3 days away from opening signups huh

23:50

I have an intro post ready but how will we do spongebob intro

23:50

Have me do the call and pop+plas do the response?

23:50

(All in announcements)

Sure

00:00

Could that be worked into like

00:00

Oh I get it

00:00

"co-gm, are you ready?"

00:00

And we both go

00:00

aye aye captain!

Oh yes

And you're like

00:00

What no I said co gm you can't both be one

00:00

And so on

Hmm

And then it's like well I guess we'll just have 3 gms

00:01

And finish the spongebob intro

Sure

00:07

Though uh for the sake of having a concise bit, the "and so on" is important

00:07

Like how do you envision playing that

00:08

@Barbaros you'd be a part of this too so feel free to weigh in

00:10

I guess I'm just not 100% sold on doing a bit about having 3 gms unless we can make it funny and concise

Just like

01:37

"wait I said co gm that means one" "Well it's me right" "No it's me" "Well you have to decide between yourselves cause

01:37

Wait.

01:37

The

01:37

The GM role is already assigned for us three

01:37

So this is a pointless bit

That will be true yes lol

02:08

I was assuming you were aware of that and just thought it would be fun to do anyway lmao

02:09

But yeah maybe we can do it as a reveal rather than a bit, or maybe ahmayk can even reveal it (edited)

02:09

and then we just launch into the normal spongebob opening (edited)

My guy sent me this sketch after we workshopped it a bit

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10:47

Is this a good base to work on?

10:48

It's, like, two ships crossing paths

I think that could be good

14:57

Assuming the perspective is developed a bit so it doesn't look like the masts are coming from the same ship

So brine is considering switching (from their original idea) to a character that is a dockworker

04:17

Should we count that?

i'm gonna guess on a whim that they're from disco elysium

04:20

but if they don't actually go out to sea idk

04:20

if that counts

They're an anthro shark from roman's christmas

04:24

The shark aspect might push it over the boundary to something we can accept?

04:25

But idk anything about the character beyond what brine just told me

i guess that works

Yeah it's not like the most exciting thing ever but if they want to do it it's probably fine? Maybe I should get more confirmation from them about what the character does first though

Let them be the sexy shark

Hype hype hype

15:08

Signups today

Latest screenshot

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Looking great

Do we think it'll be ready today or should we use a placeholder game logo when we announce the game?

I'll ask to get the current ver if it won't be ready by then

Btw here's the announcement template I wrote up

16:58

@ everyone Introducing: TROUBLE ON THE HIGH SEAS An ode to nautical nonsense and all things piratical. Hosted by @King Harkinian, @Barbaros, and @Popstarian! To sign up, DM one of us with a character fitting any of the following criteria:

Known as a pirate or for engaging in piracy

Has been part of the crew of a watercraft or airship

Has spent a significant amount of time at sea This is the only requirement for this stage of the pregame. The chance to submit a Personal Objective will come later. The player cap for this game is <?>. Signups will be open until <date and time> <server link> (edited)

yeah im happy w this

Sure

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17:08

here's the current ver

17:08

not finished yet

Nice

17:17

also are we doing no player cap?

17:17

Or setting it at a high number that we probably won't hit like 27-30?

latter sounds fine

cool

maybe more like 25 imo lol tho idk

Well if there are 3 gms we might be able to handle a slightly larger playerbase

17:21

27 could be a good compromise

Should I announce that vault is open now, or after opening signups

Also, should we leave signups open until end of tuesday (2.5 days) and start on mid wednesday? Or leave signups open until mid wednesday and start on thursday?

17:52

26-Jan-22 04:59 AM

I assume we will decide our gm npc characters during the main design period

18:01

after the initial phases

Yeah

18:01

I have a couple in mind for myself already though

18:01

And we already know who Plas will be most likely

I need time for the popsplay

Of course

18:02

Do you have anybody roughly in mind?

Not really

18:07

Just depends on what I need to be

Alright

18:08

for me I'm thinking my 3 options are Klaes Ashford from the Expanse, Hondo from Star Wars The Clone Wars, and of course our boy Bayle Domon

18:08

You'd also be welcome to be Bayle Domon if you like

18:09

We don't all need to be specifically pirates

Btw

19:20

Jr Mortician asked if they could play as the concept of the ocean or the wind (edited)

19:20

I'm leaning towards no???

Also I'm thinking we could add "by the sea" to criteria #3

20:22

That would make cath and brine's characters officially acceptable rather than "close enough"

@Undyne @Barbaros lmk when you're both ready and weigh in on the above

yeah I'm ready

21:20

let me see

21:21

I would say no but some kind of ocean / wind spirit might be fun?

21:21

and by the sea works for me

Cool

yea

And

id say im in the same boat

so what's our bit going to be

trollsmile

do we need to do a bit

Do you want me to say ARE YA READY KIDS or ARE YA READY CO-GMS

co gms is good

ok

is our only line

21:21

aye aye captain

Sure unless you have ideas for doing more

it's fine

yea im good w that

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

21:26

Actually maybe we should give it until the half hour mark?

21:28

Just to let people retrospective the awards a bit more

thas fine yea!

Ok so 1 minute and 30 seconds

21:28

Hahaha the people are demanding

lol

Alright

21:29

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-here-we-go-the-joker-gif-15343519

21:31

@Barbaros @Undyne

21:32

Pop?

sorry I'm straining my weed

that's dope

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is that piss

It's cannabutter

no that's piss

tomato, tomahto

oh damn we may actually get 30 signups this game huh

u think?

21:38

well we have had a lot of joiners

not likely but it’s possible

doubt everyone from wizard game is gonna submit tho

@King Harkinian don't forget to set up a google sheets

21:39

otherwise it gets confusing fast

for quoi? i can do it but

Yeah we can set one up just getting a lot of subs so gotta send them here first

fair

21:40

i can start one if ppl want

21:41

tho i assume we will also do the funny uh thread thing

We can have both

yeye

King Harkinian

Yeah we can set one up just getting a lot of subs so gotta send them here first

the sub train!!!!!

21:41

I haven't done the thread thing yet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/139yirZSdusCsn7JltIzNEhKnkFlPIFzfVXv5OMslLQU/edit?usp=sharing

The Gang Engages In Piracy (TitHS Sheet)

Sheet1

21:42

ironically i have not done the sheet thing yet lol

21:42

i assume username and char are obvious idk what else is normally added to begin with

Well we can add more columns later

21:43

Oh I can add a Source column for now

oh okea yea

21:45

oh wait

Barbaros

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/139yirZSdusCsn7JltIzNEhKnkFlPIFzfVXv5OMslLQU/edit?usp=sharing

Oh right you should link one where we can edit

yeah i was just abt to say lmao

21:45

forgot abt that

21:45

ok updated i think should work if u refresh

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byemom

Ok usually i'd say no

21:48

But this looks cool.

Ok let me start posting the ones I received

I'm extremely infatuated by this character

Shit okay

21:50

Since I'm a npc I don't get bot access normally but I'd like to help design ngl

i mean generally they do a bit

when I can at least

21:51

Oh every time I've hosted, NPCs don't have any bot access

21:51

that's why I'm asking

We can prob give you and akk some bot perms, it'd be good for akk since he's planning to gm soon

21:51

But for now we aint even got mysterybot online so we'll worry about that later

I want to get back on the grind tbh

Makes sense

21:52

Anyway gonna start posting the signups I got

tbh I should've probably asked to co-gm but I'm not sure if I'll be available tbh

21:55

btw about that, would it be possible to have rolovers happen at 23-Jan-22 08:00 PM

21:56

instead of 23-Jan-22 07:00 PM

how come?

I would have a problem with that probably

It's just easier for me

21:56

but yeah then there's pop

Anyway

21:57

I'm gonna start posting the signups I got

then freaking post them!

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yeah that works

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21:58

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idk who the slime girls are

YOOOOOO

yeah from what source

we discussed them a bit

I CAN DESIGN THAT ONE

From OMORI

21:58

She may or may not play them with 2 alts

amen

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21:59

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21:59

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21:59

I said I'd accept pirate demoman so speak now or forever hold your peace

DEMOMAN TF2

21:59

LESGO

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21:59

OC

21:59

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Okay so let me explain the implications of Murasa

22:00

Essentially she'll probably try to get her ship into makai

22:00

to resurrect a monk

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22:01

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22:01

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wow thats a lot lol

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i have one sub myself just ftr

Nice

22:02

Post it?

just gonna ask if theyre lockin em in

Also here's jr mortician's revised idea

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22:03

Technically the wind spends a lot of time at sea so I'd lean towards saying yes

22:03

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22:03

And this just in

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ofc ignore the objective part but

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So are there any of these that anybody wants to say No to

I thought that was Curtis for a sec

Yeah me too lol

lol

That would've been rad

i mean they all seem accurate aside from maybe demoman and whatever the hs one is lol

The air pirates from porco rosso would've been valid fun fact

Barbaros

i mean they all seem accurate aside from maybe demoman and whatever the hs one is lol

Well the hs one is sadly apparently actually a pirate

22:07

So she counts

22:07

And

22:07

I know I said a while back that I wouldn't accept demoman tf2 in a pirate hat

22:07

but HE REALLY PULLS OFF THE LOOK (edited)

22:07

Locke has an idea of how to play him in a fun way too

well up to u there id say then

22:07

im aight with em

22:08

not against anyone else really either

22:08

(whats the hs's name tho?)

vriska

oh lmao

pensiveimplode

all hs chars look the same its not my fault i dont assume

It's true!

well we're past halfway sub-wise so far

Has meep signed-up already?

Waffles is switching to May from guilty gear (who is part of the aforementioned johnny's crew)

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Byakuren Hijiri

Has meep signed-up already?

not yet

TOTSUGEKI

may awesome lmao

King Harkinian

not yet

Do I have permission to tell him he could play Curtis again

Sure you can mention that to him

22:11

Also

aight

King Harkinian

Waffles is switching to May from guilty gear (who is part of the aforementioned johnny's crew)

was expecting somebody to play her lol

Also

22:12

Get ready for this

22:12

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YO

LMao yo

I'm 100% good with this as long as we're all cool with it

22:13

It's great lmao

yeah im cool w it

So anyways, if Pablo picks to resurrect Byakuren as his objective, I'd gladly play Byakuren as a second NPC.

22:13

Yeah I'm cool with that.

We've had God and Lucifer in a game so I'm assuming other biblical figures are fine with everybody but just wanted to double check

pirate game is bible fanfiction now

why wouldn't it be fine

It's true!

tbh wind waker was just the flood story from the bible

Byakuren Hijiri

why wouldn't it be fine

some people aren't always comfortable with irl religious stuff

22:14

but

22:14

pandaemonium really just kind of

22:14

blasted through that barrier

22:14

so I doubt anyone still does

im not comfortable with the objective religion specifically because i fucking hate that cat

TRUE!

King Harkinian

some people aren't always comfortable with irl religious stuff

literally people played SMT characters before lol

22:15

and arceus is heavily christian god coded

Fair lol but SOURCE: THE BIBLE is a little more unambiguous lmao

also

22:15

Ciel literally is a christian executioner

22:15

Lailah was a NUN

yhenestik said they might want to sub which is cool

yes zel these are all reasons why I assumed it would be fine lmao

22:16

And in fact I outright said yes before being like 'wait I should prob check'

22:16

I know we're all good I just wanted to do due diligence

22:16

But yeah

Barbaros

yhenestik said they might want to sub which is cool

nice

22:17

Also we will probably have 2 she-ra characters

22:17

Due to the idea cath mentioned to me before

22:17

Also

22:17

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King Harkinian

Also we will probably have 2 she-ra characters

lol yoo

YOOOO

22:18

D.B. COOPER

LMAO

IKR

i had to look him up but thats funny

Yeah lol

this really is anniversary 2 with the real ppl (edited)

Ikr?

Barbaros

i had to look him up but thats funny

https://youtu.be/CbUjuwhQPKs great video on the topic

The Search For D. B. Cooper

King Harkinian

Click to see attachment 🖼️

https://youtu.be/rNB5eIiIsUc?t=37

MF DOOM - Topic

LETS GO

everyone, can I tell meep how many people are signed up rn

yes

I told him we'd probably allow to take in around 30 people

18?

22:21

17

yeah

Yep

Tay be like https://youtu.be/eEdVtJW_PwE

Drake - In The Bible (Audio) ft. Lil Durk, Giveon

lmao

22:24

Oh I forgot to post winter's signup

22:24

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22:25

He's apparently known as a pirate so he counts

22:25

Also lou reserved a spot

22:25

Which means

22:25

We have 18 signups plus lou, and we know cath is playing

man

20 characters in 1 hour

22:25

That's gotta be a record or something

cool its so popular lmao

Yeah this is hype

not db cooper but this sign up reminds me of this video https://youtu.be/RdxUVHEdgOo

Robert Ivan Nichols Fancam

Lol

meep asks if duoing is okay

Sure

ngl I think meep's just going to sign up through me LOL

douing as in with another person or with an alt?

a GM in all but name....

Barbaros

douing as in with another person or with an alt?

with Sor

thats fine

22:28

man are we really gonna have to maybe cut ppl tho lol

22:29

well too early to say that rn i guess

Byakuren Hijiri

https://youtu.be/rNB5eIiIsUc?t=37

SUPER

signup speed goes logarithmically

💀

SUPER

out with the mula (edited)

22:29

on his own throne like king koopa

22:30

Hey actually you know what

maybe we should add like a

I might actually ask to formally became a GM depending on how the week goes

22:30

I'm feeling this

we have 3 already lol (edited)

we can both just be “advanced npcs” or whatever

22:31

with more rights

npcs always are allowed to contribute to design still

You and akk will both be highly involved npcs yeah

remember when NPCs had no rights lol

npcs WITH RIGHTS

was thinkin maybe we could have a sub reasoning column for possible grouping

Yes

sea piracy, non-sea piracy, closeness to water, etc

Great idea

i gotta shower rn but yea

22:32

bbs

chad

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SO TRUE

db cooper was a sigma male

He was

even if he probably died by jumping off that plane

#DBCooperLives

22:33

Also got alraune's sub

22:33

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22:33

Zel do you think this works

YOOO

22:36

WTF

22:36

THIS IS AWESOME

22:37

I BET THEY'LL ALSO HAVE

22:37

THE SAME OBJECTIVE

22:37

LMAO

LOL

22:37

So do you think she fits the criteria?

22:37

Also

THAT'S CRAZY

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Yeah she fits (edited)

Nice

Oh wait nvm I

Wdym

confused he for Shou for a sec LOL

Is she still acceptable though

22:38

She's on a boat at least

22:38

Is there anything more to it?

Oh she's the Tao hermit from TD

22:38

let me look back I haven't brushed up on my touhou 13 lore in a while

22:39

Oh no they're going to beef together

22:39

Taoist and Buddhists

22:39

DO NOT

22:40

get along in Touhou LOL

Lmao

22:40

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I mean I guess she works

22:40

look at her go https://youtu.be/DQ1cDrweM2g?t=26

Pierre-Andre Roy

Mononobe no Futo - Lunatic - No bomb - No death - HD

22:41

But she's not the boatiest touhou character but hey!

22:41

It works!

Yeah lol

22:41

one-woman ship's crew

22:41

Uh oh

22:41

We just got

22:41

Cath

22:41

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cath moment

22:43

not her stage theme, but the stage right before in Futo's game https://youtu.be/ufL2ib7uQQc

Track 14 - Desire Drive [Touhou 13: Ten Desires OST]

22:43

banger

22:43

Oh fun fact about Ten Desires' final boss

22:44

Toyosatomimi no Miko

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22:44

she's actually this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Sh%C5%8Dtoku

Prince_Sh%C5%8Dtoku

22:45

after having slept in a mausoleum for 1000 years waiting for taoism to become the dominant religion of Japan

22:45

Trans girl icon ngl

Lmaooo

I need to actually play more later touhou

22:47

I've only played 6 I'm a fake fan aaaaaaa

Which touhou game is mononobe no futo from?

13

Cool

Murasa is from 12

Yea

King Harkinian

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Accepting this because it's a character from undersea

22:53

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22:53

So we have both meep and sor's now

22:53

They both check out

22:53

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22:53

Accepting both

22:56

23 characters already

22:56

I'm thinking we might have to raise cap lol

22:57

(24 including lou who reserved a spot)

22:57

ori, 404, ahmayk, superb, lem are among those who haven't subbed yet

Damn sorry for offtopic but my mom just told me I was being lazy for being on my computer all day

22:58

Bitch I'm a straight A student and I literally only have the week end to geek out, fuck off please

22:59

The fucking audacity

Oof yeah

And she's the first to admit she passed her last year exams of high school by a hair because she didn't study

Jeez

Isn't Cortez big as shit

yeah lol

I think he's massive

We'll have to ridley him a bit

should we account for that

23:07

I mean we could account for that probably

23:07

Makes for interesting design

Yeah

23:07

We can do something with it

23:07

ALSO

23:07

BEST SUB FINALLY

23:07

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BRUH ALL THIS TIME

23:07

I THOUGHT BY SUB YOU MEANT LIKE

23:07

SUBBING

23:07

LIKE IN MAFIA

No lmaooo

lmao what

AND I WAS LIKE "when did we bring that back????"

Hahahaha

23:08

Last sub I think was in gone fishing?

23:08

Anyway

23:08

I accepted patchy obviously

damn no one has played objective since then?

i mean we technically had a sub in soup game lmao

right we should bring back water mechanics from gone fishing anyways

23:08

Also I'd advise not letting players design all areas

23:08

only their ship

yes

23:09

That's the plan

i mean i think tht was the idea

Plas, you played Mafia?

not on discord

So

23:11

We've gotta talk about increasing the cap already I guess

23:11

lmao

23:11

Should we make it 30?

i mean i really dunno if i wanna make it any higher than 30 at least lol

i assumed it was 30 to start

23:11

30 sounds good

im fine with 30

@Undyne let us know what you think when you're back on (edited)

RONALDOUHOU SOKSER???

the original song https://youtu.be/ytg5LS-wXyI

Track 08 - Interdimensional Voyage of a Ghostly Passenger Ship [TH ...

23:21

(i love that bassline)

so i think ceres is intended to be either 1 or 2?

Yeah

23:23

I believe he's spent a bunch of time as a seafaring pirate so it's 1 2 and 3

please dont add the commas back lmao i wanna try something

LOL

23:23

Sorry

its ok

My bad I didn't notice you'd removed em

23:23

I can also like

np

Post some of the info he sent

23:24

He sent a doc with some writing he'd done

cool

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FRwXdTP3bTHOhA8K_CPuFDxR-w4kY4LKZLS3q233u9k/edit?usp=sharing

23:24

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/921429109765210112/934924178916786336/unknown.png

ok nvm using commas actually works better lmao

Makes sense lol

23:27

You have now learned why CSV files exist

ok that may have been a bit of more time than it was worth lmao but its fine

23:30

theyre...sorta evenish? actually maybe i should just seperate "only #" and "# and others"

23:34

obviously we should prob take more than just this into account, but if we put all the ones that are 2 and something else into 2 then we'd have 9-8-7 for now

23:34

also wow i just noticed the 2nd touhou lol

23:34

two she-ras is also based ik theyll prob be hyped abt that

db cooper's son https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/277600826602684416/858889264506863616/Persona_4_-_Specialist.mp4

Lmao true

we need to make this canon

23:59

DB cooper is the type of guy to have bastard children

It's already canon that yu is the older version of my protagonist from OMORI (edited)

00:00

But

00:00

You never see the protag's dad in omori

00:00

So

00:00

he COULD be the son of DB Cooper

00:01

Also

00:01

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00:01

We could have the sequel to wizard terraria

lol yoo

1 more submission and we will be at player cap

00:04

We know ahmayk is cooking something up

Ahmaykdeliciousmealswithhellofresh

byemom

1

00:04

Okay wait

00:04

Spaceman

00:04

Give me talking rights to #announcements for a sec

Wait why

whyyy

Trust me

00:05

the payoff is going to be huge

ill be honest

00:05

i kinda dont

00:05

LMAO

MORTY

00:05

FLIP THE TALKING RIGHTS ON MORTY

You have 30+ people to surprise, I think you can spoil it for us

ok

Just so we know what it's gonna be

fake hellofresh sponsor

00:05

Your game is sponsored by HelloFresh kind of deal

For any reason in particular or just non sequitur?

funny

00:07

it's funny

i gotta go eat dinner but idk lol

Yeah idk I feel like that'd be a really funny gag for your own game though

00:13

Bc then you can kind of roll with it

00:13

And do more than just a one off gag

00:13

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King Harkinian

Yeah idk I feel like that'd be a really funny gag for your own game though

fair

But yeah we're prob not getting any more signups tonight so we can wait to decide on raising the cap until tomorrow

00:31

(i.e. when pop is back on)

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00:43

Aaand we're at 27

00:43

lmao

00:48

Ori has let me know he wants to participate so he's effectively claiming a spot

00:48

That means we have 27 + ori, ahmayk, lem, and maybe superb

well.

Yeah lmao

00:50

It's a bit wack

lol yea

00:51

like makes me a bit unsure of what to do now lol cuz if anyone else subs b4 we make decisions on this we may be going a bit overboard

00:51

and/or having to cut ppl, which would be a shame

Well I think we're all agreed upon raising at least to 30

yea

Unless pop disagrees

01:02

But I think they've also expressed a willingness to go that high

Speaking of which

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Do you think I should give spectators access to view vault

02:08

They didn't have access in wizard game but I feel like there's no reason not to?

yeah unless theyre gonna have a super big impact

02:20

idk if we have much a plan of that sort yet

Well I don't think there'll be any audience participation

02:24

And the only way for dead players to interact with the game is if they stay in davy jones' locker (rather than fiddlers' green where they can interact with spectators)

02:24

So

02:24

Spectators should be safe

02:24

To see vault

yea

I added two new categories to the spreadsheet

03:18

"Additional Material" for like, provided wiki pages and google docs etc

03:18

Plus "Notes" which is self explanatory

valid

We need to raise cap to let spectakoo in once he's online

06:57

I refuse to let him be sidelined I've been keeping him up to date this entire time

would this be fine? @King Harkinian

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Cerb also asked if they can play as David Hasselhoff from the spongebob movie (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVicmvuxO1s) if the playercap increases

The Spongebob Squarepants Movie: David Hasselhoff (2004)

sure LOL

ahmayk sent a tentative signup, picking character later

13:00

So currently the post-playercap signups I've gotten have been cerb, possibly koo, and ahmayk

13:00

YO WANNA PLAY UNDYNE

Brine brought up having to possibly take breaks with this amount of players and that got me thinking about a scheduled break to give players and hosts breathing room

13:12

So I was thinking of possibly taking some workday off each week (just locking the channels for 24 hours, or leaving a phase open for 48 hours), like mondays or wednesdays

Undyne

So I was thinking of possibly taking some workday off each week (just locking the channels for 24 hours, or leaving a phase open for 48 hours), like mondays or wednesdays

If we need to.

13:21

I think it's better if we have breaks when we need them.

@Pirate Lord one of yall pin the gsheets

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Pinned a message.

14:17

aight

14:17

im a little worred about these "claimed spots" lol

14:18

with em we already have like

14:18

34 or 35 people i think lmao

14:18

or wait

14:18

ok maybe a bit less

14:18

but like . yeah

We have 3 GMs though...

14:20

This is an opportunity

14:20

And I said I'd be fine with hoping in as a 4th GM if we need to

14:21

Also, what's "sub reasoning"?

somethin we were talkin abt a bit earlier, its for which criteria everyone's chars fit

14:22

in case we wanted to consider that in terms of the groups

Spectakoo has been interested in the game since december and has asked to be kept up to date on it so he can remember to sign up so I really want to at least give him a chance

14:23

And besides, we managed 30 players with ahmayk just fine

14:23

3 GMs, 35 or so, no problem

And with 4 we could easily go up to 40

14:24

though it won't get to this

14:25

So uh what are each of the 3 reasonings

just as they're shown in #announcements

14:25

the 3 bullet points

Undyne

And besides, we managed 30 players with ahmayk just fine

~~tbf ahmayk isnt here lol~~ but eh id prob be maybe ok with trying everyone whos been in/claimed already and no one else?

@Barbaros For Murasa, I'm not sure if she'd fit 3, because her ship doesn't quite go on water most of the time? (edited)

14:27

It floats. (edited)

ah fair i guess? i assumed cuz the wiki said shed drowned or whatever

14:27

but i suppose 2 only is a bit more accurate

14:28

if we went this route most shared criteria would prob go to 2 anyways

Barbaros

~~tbf ahmayk isnt here lol~~ but eh id prob be maybe ok with trying everyone whos been in/claimed already and no one else?

(I was a lot faster writing rollovers than him tbf)

i mean pf fair enough

And spaceman is about as efficient as me

14:28

if not more

i mean i havent gmed any so far lol let alone a huge game like this but i will do my best i have been able to write quickly in the past anyhow and we do have 3 of us i spose

14:29

just that this is a bit of an unprecedented amount either way

We'll walk you through it

but i guess thats cool too

14:29

anyways so far we havd

14:29

28 on the sheet

Are you able to VC during rollovers?

and in terms of claims we got

14:29

- ahmayk - lem - superb? - spectakoo - cerb

14:30

so 33 at most at current i think? unless im missing someone

14:30

and yeah i should be able to

Great

14:30

You'll be just fine

Oh god please don't VC most of design.

thatsa pretty common thing nowadays iirc

We already talked about this didn't we

Yeah well I can't read up on it and I'm not available most of the time.

work on the larger elements in recorded VCs

14:32

and write down notes on the decisions

14:32

And do most of the character designs and stuff in threads

yeah sounds abt right

14:33

the important stuff will be written down anyways

Yeah we'll do live updates in this chat during vc

Like we said before

14:42

We want to make sure everybody is as involved as possible while also being as efficient as possible

14:43

A ton of stuff will still be done in text, and the rest will still be summarized in text, it's just that some stuff is so much easier to iron out in a live voice chat

14:44

And realistically we can't hamper ourselves by giving up that tool completely

14:44

It's not like the rest of us will always be able to vc either

14:44

We're busy people

the vcs would most likely be frontloaded for the initial sessions

14:45

once the broad strokes have been decided on it's easier to get down to the details in threads

Yeah

14:51

So

14:51

We all good with raising to 33?

Well

14:52

I wonder what the best way to go about it is

14:52

You're good with extending signups until the end of wednesday?

Extending?

I asked about that because wednesday koo will know if he can play or not

14:52

well not extending but like delaying the pregame

14:52

Though

14:52

now that I think about it

14:53

pregame would have normally started on thursday anyway right?

I think wednesday? Tho idk

14:53

But id prob rather at the very least close singups

Pregame would have started on wednesday or thursday normally

Tbh we can just drop Koo in if he can do it or we don't drop him in

14:56

It doesn't have to be that formal imo

Yeah like

14:56

If phase 1 were to start at 2pm on wednesday

14:56

EST

14:56

Do you think he'd know by then?

he said

14:56

"by wednesday afternoon I should have an answer"

I mean that should be fine then?

Yeah probably lol

Yeah sounds alright to me

14:57

I'll tell him that

So then should I announce cap increase?

14:57

Or do one of you want to do the honours

Well again

14:58

Are we raising the cap

I mean

or are we announcing extra players

I wanna say let everyone in whos subbed/claimed but no one else

14:58

So prob not announce it till everyones in

I'd like to wait 24 hours at least

Ppl dont know we have so many claims already lol

from the announcement I mean

Oh that reminds me

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Don't remember that character but sounds good

thats who lem played in rot

ah

So with lem and ori we have 29

15:01

plus ahmayk, koo, cerb we have 32

15:01

are we considering the 3 of them "reserved slots"?

Yeah sure

Oh and cerb actually sent a character

15:04

So that falls into the lem/ori category

Right

So we have 30 official signups and 2 reserved spots

Right

So if we were to announce cap was raised to 33 it'd basically just be "screw you superb sign up before someone else does"

15:11

Damn

15:11

So you think we should wait longer to announce anything?

15:11

I'd at least like to formally accept ori, lem and cerb though (edited)

I say we should wait until 24 hours has passed from the announcement to announce anything

Even for the people who are waiting on us? It feels like a needless formality to keep them in the dark about whether they can play

I was assuming wed dm them directly

Yeah that's fine

I feel like if we announce a bigger cap ppl wont realize every spots already taken lol

Yeah lol

yeah that's what I thought

I agree

exactly plas

15:18

the only announcement we could make is "we've got an extra 3 players and two players pending!"

15:18

and what would that really say

Id say we just announce when everyones chosen

"oh okay, can we do the pending thing still or?"

The deadlines still tmw night iirc so

15:19

No real issue with just waiting for now and maybe dming the ppl who need to pick

15:20

Or maybe we could announce that signups are closed for new signups? In case anyone else still submits

If we do that though we should reserve a slot for superb

15:21

And tell him so

Oh i assumed they already did so

15:22

But yeah we could just say in dms theres a spot reserved for em, give or take it nbd either way

15:22

Er take or leave it

15:22

Lmao

Yeah

15:42

I'm down if we -accept ori, lem and cerb -tell ahmayk, koo and superb their slots are reserved -announce that signups are closed for new signups, and the final number of players will be announced later

15:43

(By which I mean, all 3 of these)

Yeah im good w that

@Undyne ?

Sounds good to me

Cool

15:44

I'll get on it

15:44

Or, well

15:45

For ahmayk, cerb and koo you can do it if you want pop

I can do it

Nice

15:45

So I'll accept ori and lem, and tell superb his spot is reserved

I accepted ori and lem but I'll get to superb once these meetings at work are done

aight np

OK messaged superb

16:24

So pop just let us know whenever you've hit up your 3 people, and then we can announce signups being closed

I already did.

W

16:39

Alright then

16:39

I'll make the announcement when I get back from shopping

16:40

Also superb said he's thinking he probably will play

16:40

So, pog

idk if we're callin it phase 1 or anythin lol

we haven't had a phase 0 in a while

chat-

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Lmao

I'll announce the thing now

18:26

Sib is changing his character to the blue star guy from mario

18:26

Muskular is the character's name

isnt that from paper mario?

And mario party 5

ah yeah

Sib said the objective will prob be related more to mp5 but I just am putting "Mario series" as the source for now

tfw we're gonna have 2 ttyd chars too lol

2 paper mario characters (edited)

18:27

2 touhou characters

oh wait

and 2 spongebob movie characters

hes actually paper mario 1 i think

18:27

but yeah lol

still

18:27

lmao

still paper mario yeah

18:27

lmao

wait

18:27

not just that

18:28

2 paper mario 2 touhou 2 spongebob movie 2 she-ra 2 d&d

pfffff

18:28

amazing

18:28

i wonder if we should put each together

And 2 from religious mythology as well (aura and noah)

18:28

Maybe

18:28

I think some should be together and maybe some shouldn't

18:29

It could be more fun for some of the duos to discover each other during the game

true

But some like the d&d ones signed up as a duo so they should def be together

yea

18:29

ig maybe it depends on if the chars get along well in canon too

Yeah like I think zel implied the touhous prob wouldn't get along

18:29

though the players might not play them that way

18:30

Would it be funny if we put all the "normal guys" together

18:30

Like

18:30

Patchy, the Hoff, DB Cooper, and Steve

18:31

I feel like maybe it would be more fun for patchy and the hoff to be on different teams

18:31

Bc patchy would probably fanboy big time over the hoff

lol thatd be fun

18:31

are we gonna be locking in 3 teams btw? makes sense, tho we do have more people now lol

18:31

i guess 11/11/11 is kinda cool if we do that

Theoretically we could make it 4 if we want, but I'm cool with still doing 3

ye

18:32

depends on what size team we think would be better ig

18:33

would be either 11/11/11 or 8/8/8/9

damn nice vgmgg list

PFF

18:34

depends on whos hosting

we're doing pirate vgmgg now time to start over

piracy, the sequel to anarchy

piracy at the prestigious pirate ship (working title)

18:41

now that we have all our signups for the most part i'm gonna start thinking about npcs

18:42

with there being no personal objectives just yet it gives us a bit more freedom

i guess? u may be needed when those do come up tho

personal objectives are declared during the game right?

i think theyre declared before we design most things still

18:43

wed is more of a pre-phase

the notes sheet says they'll be submitted at the end of phase 2, i guess we may end up bringing out npcs on the spot for those but i'd think i should at least pick out somebody before the game starts

thats phase 2 of design i think, not actually phase 2 of the game

18:47

i think the only rp part is on wednesday? could be wrong tho but either way i think npcs wont really be needed for that yet? u could think of ideas now but id say maybe not to get too attached to them maybe we'll see what the other gms think too tho cuz im a little unsure

i was assuming there wouldn't personal objectives until during the game, like in heist, but that doesn't seem to be the case

i think its more like anni where people decide their personal objectives after some discussion and rp, but before the actual action of the game

ok...

18:51

puts bottle of design juice back in the fridge

Oh jeez I should clarify this lol

19:02

The truth is...

19:02

you're BOTH right!

...game was rigged from the start

true

1

But yeah so personal objectives are being sent in on phase 2 of the actual game, like akk said

19:02

but

19:03

phases 1 and 2 are basically just pregame

19:03

And we probably won't have our npcs/gmnpcs in the game yet

gotcha

We'll be joining the game for phase 3 which will occur after the true design break

aight pf

19:03

works will phase 2 also have rp?

However you're welcome to think of npc ideas now

19:03

Yes phase 2 will

aight

It'll be like phase 2 of anni

is there like a one day break between phases 2 and 3?

more like a week lmao

OH OK

like I said it's the true design break

its a one day break between 1 and 2

that's when we'll design abilities, items, and the map

i think

Well 1 and 2 will happen on back to back days like normal phases

o

phase 1 rollover is when we will resolve who's captain and such

aight

19:05

when will ppl be able to claim mutineer?

19:05

if applicable

Between phases 1 and 2

19:05

I think

19:05

Well not I think, I know

19:05

But

theyd only be prompted after phase 1 ends tho

Yeah

would they just be asked if they want to? or

They'd be asked yes but it wouldn't be like "Do you want to be a Mutineer lol here's what a mutineer can do"

19:06

It'd be more like "Will you serve under the elected Captain [character] as a Sailor, or seek to overthrow their Captaincy?"

19:06

basically they must choose whether to be a sainte

19:07

or a grunch

Can I add my own design flair

19:07

Area music

If you want to come up with area music when we're designing areas you'd be welcome to

Dope!

19:07

I'd also like to design some characters and abilities for sure

19:07

like the touhou characters

oh shit area music??

Yeah you'll definitely be able to take the lead on the touhous and have a big hand in whoever else you want to help with

i will give my input for that as well

19:08

(the area music)

Just like akk will be handling homestuck duty trollsmile

trollsmile

yes

19:08

death

what about uhh crew uh h abilities or whatever?

19:09

like cook and stuff or whatev

That's just a bonus skill that'll apply regardless of who the character is, I think?

19:09

Like

19:10

Characters will still have fully fleshed out abilities and skills

Also I'm totally up to NPC 2 chars if Pablo picks to ressurect Byakuren

19:10

which is likely

Lmao yeah you'd be welcome to do that

19:10

Oh lord

19:10

We could have 2 alt npcs in addition to the 2 alt players (clowder's alts) (edited)

King Harkinian

Characters will still have fully fleshed out abilities and skills

yeye thas fair just wondering when those are chosen and also told to the players

Oh those are chosen phase 1

19:11

Uhh look at pins

yeah im checking

19:11

im just kinda thinkin tho

19:11

cuz thats up to the captains but

19:11

the captains are decided on phase 1

There's also a chance Futo will be waking up Miko LOL

do they just come up with all their stuff for their captaincy prospect? or would the crew deciding thing maybe be better for part of phase 2

In that case I guess I'll potentially play 3

Thout

slorps

19:12

all your NPCs belong to me

Barbaros

do they just come up with all their stuff for their captaincy prospect? or would the crew deciding thing maybe be better for part of phase 2

That's a valid point I think I see what you

19:13

're saying

19:13

It could add more flavour to phase 2 now that I think about it

19:13

To have the crew skill role selections happen then

19:13

Especially bc it gives potential mutineers more they have to lie about (edited)

yea i think maube thatd be cool

to be sussy (edited)

19:13

I think let's do it that way then

19:14

Crew role selections phase 2 (edited)

19:14

That also avoids the issue of first/second mate overriding role selections

19:14

(Because captain would pick mates at the same time as sailors pick roles, so it'd all resolve after phase 1)

19:15

This way the mates get chosen phase 1 by whoever wins captain, then everyone else can pick their crew role

19:15

I've posted drafts of the phase 1 and phase 2 rules that will be posted

19:15

In here somewhere

aight

So we can edit those

19:15

To move the skill role selections to phase 2

Why don't we let the players pick their ship's area music?

Yeah they totally could

19:16

Maybe the first and second mate would get to pick

19:16

That could be a fun thing for them to do

19:16

Since they don't have a skill role to pick during phase 2

so Everyone: - 1 word for the ship - Personal objective (mutineers included?) Captains: - Mates Crew (not mutineers, tho thinkin abt it will they get anything?): - Roles - 1st mates choose song?

So wait is this for phase 2

19:20

Also you know what

yeah

I was gonna say "actually it's 2 words for the ship"

19:21

but

19:21

If there's 11 people in a crew

yeah its 11 ppl for one ship

They should probably only get 1 each lmao

yea lol

Barbaros

so Everyone: - 1 word for the ship - Personal objective (mutineers included?) Captains: - Mates Crew (not mutineers, tho thinkin abt it will they get anything?): - Roles - 1st mates choose song?

In that case this is correct EXCEPT mates are chosen on phase 1 (they're included in the captain bid)

19:21

Though

19:21

Maybe we could allow captains the option of choosing them then or phase 2

oh ok

19:22

well idk i think phase 1 might be better

19:22

would make 2 a bit less confusing

Yeah

19:22

I agree so then yeah

19:24

Phase 2 Everyone: - 1 word for the ship - Personal objective (optional for captains, and maybe sailors too?) Captain: - Ship name Sailors: (not mutineers): - Roles Mates: - area music (optional)

19:24

You raise a good point about whether the mutineers will have anything to do

19:24

Is there a way they could do something sneaky during phase 2?

i mean, if they do contribute a word to the ship that could be kinda funny as long as they cant just do like "sunk" lmao

19:25

i meant moreso like possible role bonuses cuz the others do

19:25

but i guess we'd already know theyre mutineers for actual ability designing

19:25

so we could always just balance em then without need for anything extra

Yeah that's fair

19:26

If we can think of something for em though that'd be good

ye tru

Since everyone else has something cool to submit on phase 2

yea

But yeah this is some good discussion

19:28

Pregame mechanics and team alignments are all we need to have set in stone by wednesday

yea

Everything else we have until phase 3 to worry about (though if we can work everything else out early, we could get a headstart on some character designs) (edited)

19:29

On that note

19:29

I'm gonna do some randomly generated team assignments, for inspiration's sake

19:30

Then we can pick away at them and see what dynamics we like and don't like

19:30

To help with determining the crews ourselves

yeah thats fair i was thinkin abt the same

Example Crew 1 Ianis Vriska Serket Cortez Monkey Buccaneer Aura Noah Mononobe no Futo James Pond Entrapta Patchy the Pirate Example Crew 2 Slime Girls Ceres Leadbow "Steve the Pirate" Sea Hawk D.B. Cooper Orla Nevvit Pirate Darien/The Dodo Edwin VanCleef David Hasselhoff Example Crew 3 Muskular Minamitsu Murasa Pirate Demoman May Captain Scarlett Miss Bec Trede Karl Maerk Koeia Carvallain de Gorgagne

19:38

Good lord these are so big honestly we might want to do 4 teams lol

19:39

Like 11 people is enough that some might feel like they're lost in the shuffle and can't properly stand out in their crew

19:39

Idk if we can get anywhere with this 'start from randomized' approach with 11 person teams lol (edited)

i'm thinking 4 teams

i'm thinking arbys

true

1

19:41

but also yeah

19:41

4 teams might be best

4 would be aight

We should also keep in mind that clowder is playing 3 characters

3 i was thinking could still be fine cuz of anni but

19:41

groups of 8ish would probably be maybe better for interaction

groups of 8 oh no

19:42

vriska has already won

put her in the only group of 9

YEAH

pFF

19:43

hard to say im a bit conflicted cuz anni was really good how it was but i can def get behind 4 groups too if yall would prefer

I'm on the fence too

19:45

What if we try to create a lineup with 3 teams and a lineup with 4

19:45

And see which one we like better

19:46

How about let me first try to build a team of dedicated pirates

19:46

And see how far I get

aight

-Vriska -Demoman -Steve the Pirate -Captain Scarlett -DB Cooper -Karl -Patchy -Terraria Pirate (edited)

19:49

These are the characters that only have criteria 1

also as far as pairing characters from the same source material, i think it should be based on whether they have a positive or negative/nonexistent relationship

Yeah

19:49

I agree

i skimmed the she ra wiki and it seems like entrapta and sea hawk would be together

yeah i mentioned that too, and if so that works

Murasa and Futo would probably clash quite a bit lol

yeah i was thinking theyd be separate

About Murasa - "She has been shown wielding her anchor as a weapon, and this has been the source of parody images comparing Minamitsu to May from the Guilty Gear series."

20:29

ooo spicy

Yoooo

Ok people we apparently have a choice to make

21:11

Image attachment

Axe knight

1 vote for axe knight

maybe axe knight?

21:16

or perhaps quagsire idk

21:16

if its pmd quagsire (it probably isnt) then definitely quag

@💀 and @ pop when theyre not baked out of their gourd

quagsire

1 vote axe knight, 1 vote quagsire, 1 vote split between the two

21:25

me and pop will need to tiebreak damn

writing up a few profile rough drafts for the characters I know stuff about

Cool

do we have an estimated number of phases?

Feel free to create the threads for those characters btw

21:48

You can use the signup images from yesterday as the thread start posts

because this is pirate game it would be good to establish how long drunkenness lasts

21:48

and what effects it would have exactly

LOL true

pff

21:49

idk tbh 15? maybe closer to 20 cuz of the first two phases not counting?

21:49

idk

maybe 3 phases for being drunk?

Not including the first two phases I'm thinking it'll prob be 12-15 phases

21:49

Hmm that feels like a long time

21:50

that's 3 days lmao

i disagree

of gameplay

oh that

21:50

lol

21:50

i mean it depends on what it does i guess

21:50

if its not too intrusive i think 3 is fine

I think drunkenness should last 1-2 phases depending on how intense it is, if it's super intense it should just make them blackout and lose a heart

we could have it be 1 phase for most characters, and then longer for characters with abilities pertaining to it

21:51

(demoman)

Oh true

we make character threads in this channel right?

yeah

what are your thoughts on doing player emojis for this game like in soup game?

i think thats a bot mechanic now

idk if we can find emojis for all these pirates

i see no reason not to

21:55

ehh im sure we can

unless it takes server emojis

21:55

i'm sure it's possible tho

King Harkinian

Not including the first two phases I'm thinking it'll prob be 12-15 phases

13 phases is way too short for such a big game

21:55

at least 15

i mean 15 would be 17

21:56

etc

Yeah I think 13 is low end

21:58

15 is more likely

21:58

Plus start phases (edited)

21:58

So 17 total

i mean we'll get a better idea during the game too but yeah i think 17 overall is prob a decent approximate for now

💀

what are your thoughts on doing player emojis for this game like in soup game?

eh we could, idk if we need to but if we're feeling up to it we could

i kinda like it

21:59

and im sure i could prob come up with some for all of em

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VRISKA (girlthulhu)

is 1.25 damage a good rule of thumb for melee weapons?

its a bit high for one if its not particularly special imo

22:25

id probably say 1 personally

22:25

tho idk

22:25

i know we had an issue with co-written with making rubik's claws only do 1 for a lot of the game

22:25

i personally wouldve preferred 1.25 there

i guessed that 1 was too low and 1.5 was too high

but arguably its a bit more special than a regular weapon

22:25

yeah thats kinda fair, idk

this game is gonna be on the longer side though

thats sorta my concern

22:26

then again

22:26

we do have a way to come back to life

💀

is 1.25 damage a good rule of thumb for melee weapons?

@King Harkinian going back to this

00:46

whaddya think

Probably

00:46

I think that's a good like, "average" damage

sounds good then

With 1.25 it still takes 3 hits to solo someone but it's easier to gang up on them or finish them off (edited)

there are a few small tweaks i'm looking to make to scarlett's weapons based on that

Alright ahmayk has decided

00:58

He's gonna go with Inigo

w

So we've almost got our full cast

01:22

Maybe tomorrow pop can see if spectakoo has an idea of who he'll play as if he's able to play

01:23

And I guess we've also gotta finish picking superb's character lmao

Maybe in the meantime I'll just brainstorm some interesting combos

So zucchini is asking if they can still sign up, I'll say no but would we be willing to let them in if koo ends up being unavailable?

that's fair

King Harkinian

Maybe in the meantime I'll just brainstorm some interesting combos

still planning to do this btw just been playing d&d

@Barbaros if you run a test game you should try to test out one or two of the mechanics we'll be doing and let us know how it goes lol

uhh which ?

03:10

sorry lol

Specifically having an area that changes its connection every phase, and having only certain players have access to a moveinstant

03:11

I believe the latter can be done by giving a placeholder item to each character

03:11

But there may be a different way of grouping characters now

ah yea

03:16

and the former?

03:16

is that like

03:16

ships that are docked to an island or something

Yeah

ah ok

03:21

and the latter is what, only crew members being able to moveinstant in a ship? or something mb lol i know we discussed this i just forget somewhat

03:21

ofc the test game wont be specifically this lol

Barbaros

and the latter is what, only crew members being able to moveinstant in a ship? or something mb lol i know we discussed this i just forget somewhat

yeah that's it

03:25

and yeah makes sense lol it's good that you'll be doing it to fully learn all the bot functions

fair well ty tho it may be a bit slow at first but maybe thats expected lol cuz i kinda gotta get better accustomed to. all of em pf

yeah lmao

03:30

with wizard game I think pop just taught me most of the commands on the fly lmao

03:30

but obv back then there were fewer commands and not as many powerful ones

Anyway girlboss team: -Slime Girls -Vriska -Scarlett -Minamitsu -May -Aura -Koeia

PFFF

03:47

thatd be funny

they are too powerful

03:48

they must be stopped

vs. Chad team: -Inigo -Edwin -Demoman -DB Cooper -Cortez -The Hoff -Ianis -James Pond

vs. Pirate team: -Steve -Monkey Buccaneer -Karl -Maerk -Orla -Patchy -Terraria Pirate -Carvallain (edited)

04:09

vs. Everyone Else: -Muskular -Ceres -Bec Trede -Sea Hawk -Noah -Mononobe -Entrapta -Darien

vs. Fighting Polygon Team (x99)

Precisely

that should be like a random event or something LMAO

04:10

a rogue ship with a bunch of polygon chars on it

LOL

04:10

Forget the kraken

04:11

We've got the fighting polygon ship

pfff

04:11

anyways these are decent ideas? id have to look into who is exactly who for each but i think i like it?

I'm pretty neutral on it and I think it would probably need some tweaks at the very least (edited)

04:12

But

04:12

It could be a good place to start

yea

04:12

i think one thing thatd be good is to make sure every team has like enough serious chars together so they can make legit connections possibly and maybe a handful of jokes chars in each

04:12

well "joke"

04:12

just somewhat less serious

Yeah

these are good teams yeah

04:15

i find it funny that the guy named "muskular" rightfully doesn't get put on the chad team

pfff

04:16

i mean it does say he likes to work out tho

04:16

so maybe he is viable

04:16

tbh i think my favourite here is probably the pirate team maybe? cuz having one thats like more directly stereotypical would make a good dynamic for the rest

04:17

and somewhat force at least one group to carry that theme overall

04:17

idk about the specifics but in concept i think its strong

muskular is a scrimblo

04:19

he could be put on the chad team but he might be a laughingstock

04:19

even though he works out

to be fair that would be funny

IT WOULD

~~this should be one of his abilities~~

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"Anyone holding you receives a massive boost in launch resistance."

Pffff

04:22

i was thinking like you rarely budge when attacked or something but thatd be funny too

Lmao

04:22

You can't be knocked overboard

04:23

Oh also I feel like right now idk if team 4 is a good fit for Noah

04:23

Maybe he should go on chad team

04:23

Ooh

04:24

What if Noah and Muskular went on chad team, Cortez and DB Cooper went on pirate team, and maerk and orla went on everyone else team

mm maybee

04:24

that would be a bit better

maybe put demo on pirate team instead of cooper?

i am a bit more mixed on the girlboss one tho personally

04:25

could maybe think of somehtin else for that

💀

maybe put demo on pirate team instead of cooper?

Ooh good idea yes

it's good in concept but entrapta can't be on it bc of sea hawk

lol true

04:25

i just feel like maybe we shouldnt go super hard on the categories for all of them cuz we kinda wanna ahve them develop identities for themselves too

yeah

Oh yeah that's why these categories are just for initial inspiration

ah yeah fair

Breaking up girlboss team was always gonna happen

ye i guess we should just make sure we dont like

04:26

internally keep the monikers for all of em forever lol

Oh yeah we'll have to ditch them

maybe we should give em diff temp (or not?) names

04:26

like idk the uh

04:26

suits or something

04:26

team clubs team hearts

Maybe though that's kinda hard to remember which is which I think

true lol

teams 1 2 3 and 4 is prob fine

04:27

Then maybe better names will arise

04:27

in gameplay

i mean that isnt much better for that purpose pf

04:27

but yeah

Idk a number stands out more to me than a suit

will we let em name em themselves? i mean it makes sense

Well they'll name their ships

yeah fair

04:27

is that also gonna be an action or we just

And they can come up with unofficial team names if they want

let em say whatever

It should be an action because we'll name the ship areas after the ship's name

fair

04:28

should it be another captain thin then?

It can be submitted by the captain with phase 2

yeye oke

04:28

good to keep in mind tho

Bc otherwise they have nothing special to submit on phase 2

well they have the uh

04:28

something right? im trying to remember

if you look at the message I sent before

oh right the mates we moved to phase 1

the thing I had there was the ship name

so they wouldnt have anthin

04:29

oh yeah ur right

04:29

mb

04:29

thas valid

np

while idk if theyll necessarily get along, i feel like theres some merit to putting koeia and ceres together

Oh yeah that could be interesting

and maybe the two dnd chars on the other one

I also think scarlett and vriska should be split up just based on gut feeling

thats probably fair lol

But slime girls and vriska I feel like are meant to be together

your calls better than mine on that one lol idk enough abt either

Clowder will hate it but she knows I'm right

pff

But yeah I think we've gotten a good start on team brainstorming and we've largely ironed out how phases 1 and 2 will work so

04:33

Good progress

04:33

Let's give pop a chance to read up tomorrow and then we can all go ham to get things ready for wednesday

yeye sounds good!

I don't really have any strong opinions on the player groupings atm

06:19

The current ideas look fine but I wonder if it's a little boring to just put every "girlboss" in the same crew you know

06:20

Feel like variety in character archetype is the spice of life for each crew

Undyne

Feel like variety in character archetype is the spice of life for each crew

Agreed.

06:55

I feel like we should create groups to encourage soft friendly conflict. (edited)

06:56

Also, I feel like we could've done this better by having signups not require a character.

06:56

Then giving small groups of players individual criterias, like in anniversary.

06:57

But who knows, I'm sure this can end well - sorry for being consistently a contrarian.

That worked well in anniversary which had no real criteria inherently (beyond humans or monsters which is pretty wide) (edited)

07:40

But for a "Pirate game" we already have a pretty clear criteria even without any relationships

Again, we'll see how it goes.

08:38

I'm hopeful eitherway.

How about we let players design their jolly rogers too?

That would indeed be fun

09:10

Would we leave it to someone from the crew to actually make the image or they describe it and we make it?

09:11

The jolly roger could be, like, a visible item somehow? That shows up in an area if the ship is there? I wonder if it should be tied to the captain somehow to make that possible

First mate could be jolly roger, and second mate could be area music.

Well, it's possible they're not actually on their ship

09:14

And it'd be a bother to have to update the area description each time if it were done that way instead of items... (edited)

I'm not saying that they'd LITERALLY be the jolly roger and the area music.

09:21

I'm saying that they would be the ones to make the flag and pick to music respectively. (edited)

09:21

Duh.

09:22

What kind of idea is that? BEING a flag?

09:22

That's that Mario Game Co-Written type design decision.

I think that stuff could all be decided collectively

09:24

but the mates could be the ones to like submit them (edited)

Byakuren Hijiri

What kind of idea is that? BEING a flag?

chill out your message implied they'd be holding visible items for them

Undyne

chill out your message implied they'd be holding visible items for them

It didn't, you interpreted it that way. I meant to reference a conversation I had here earlier with Spaceman about what the first and second mates could do.

09:29

We came up with giving them both the task to pick their boat's area music.

09:30

However, I feel as if it'd be more fun if we gave both of them separate tasks.

Again, they should be designed together by the crew during the pregame, or at least conceptualized

09:30

then the mates can be the ones to submit them

09:31

(and possibly make last minute changes or even prank the crew and change them up completely I guess)

Sure, they can ask the crew for advice, but I still feel like giving the responsibility to them grants more flavors to their crew-roles.

That's why I think them holding them as visible items could be fun

09:33

Imagine the second mate just holding a boom box the entire time to rep their ship

09:33

And the first mate to be a jolly roger carrier

I feel like it'd be better if they were imbedded in the area description. (edited)

09:33

With them being changed upon request of the mates.

They def should be in the ship areas yeah

Also, music should probably be non-diegetic.

But I was wondering if it's, like, a tile where the ship has been docked

09:34

say on the shore

09:34

it would be fun to be able to convey the music coming from the ship within that tile

Byakuren Hijiri

Also, music should probably be non-diegetic.

That is, unless it could realistically be played on a ship.

I'm a fan of diegetic music

09:34

The ship could totally just have speakers

But you can't play dubstep on a XVII century ship.

I really doubt we're going to be hung up on historical accuracy with the ship construction system we have in place lol

Speakers didn't exist during the golden age of piracy. This creates an anachronism which imo takes away from the setting and experience.

Neither did world of warcraft my friend

09:35

The whole point is the players are going to create very, very wacky ships

That's different though, the setting should be consistent.

09:36

The characters are the intruders here.

The world outside of the ships, sure

09:36

But the ships are going to be created by the players

At least that's my philosophy when designing.

And we're not going to limit them to 18th century tech

Wouldn't it be more fun to limit them to accurate-ish technology?

I really doubt it

09:37

Well, like

09:37

Of course it'd be nice to try to create an aesthetically consistent environment for each ship

I'd say personally, areas like bigass which looked like powerpoint presentions

But logically that'd be so much work to interpret every word in a period accurate way and to visually combine all of it somehow to look consistent

were one of my least favorite parts of anniversary

And it'd generally just disappoint people

09:38

Some person is definitely going to be like "cannon"

Undyne

But logically that'd be so much work to interpret every word in a period accurate way and to visually combine all of it somehow to look consistent

then be upfront about it?

but them someone else will be "RGB strip"

Undyne

but them someone else will be "RGB strip"

yeah paint the ship red, green and blue

Right, the only way not to disappoint would be to inform players in advance

easy

09:39

People tend to trive better when it comes to art when they're under limitations.

09:39

And I don't think "stuff that could exist in the 1750s" is too restrictive

I guess we'll hear from the other designers

Yeah.

09:40

We don't have to be too realistic about it though, but I'd say it's better if we're at least reasonably realistic.

@Pirate Lord @💀 late 18th century (or otherwise aesthetically relevant) tech only for the ships, or bigass-type freeform ships? (edited)

You can't handwave a laser gun but you can handwave like

09:41

a blowtorch idk

09:41

Do you see what I mean?

TBH I like the idea of these completely ridiculous ships and crews invading a late 18th century setting

09:41

The way I've looked at this is that each character brings their own tech on board

I find that boring and immersion breaking imo but hey.

Which allows for ridiculously unhistorical ships

09:42

Because like the crews are already from a ridiculously unhistorical selection of media

Undyne

@Pirate Lord @💀 late 18th century (or otherwise aesthetically relevant) tech only for the ships, or bigass-type freeform ships? (edited)

Also, I don't mean 18th century only tech. (edited)

09:45

We can have little anachronisms, but nothing too crazy you know.

edited the message

09:47

I'm not opposed to finding up-to-early 20th century alternatives for crazy stuff like laser guns

09:48

But I just wonder if it's a lot of work to be able to put all that together in area images

09:48

I guess it's just a matter of more research than "laser gun"

09:49

whose interpreted alternative could be something like a mosin or a gatling gun

By the way, will I get the opportunity to write rollovers?

If needed

13:32

I don't see why not

Undyne

The current ideas look fine but I wonder if it's a little boring to just put every "girlboss" in the same crew you know

just to clarify, as I said last night those ideas were just to kickstart the brainstorming, they weren't intended to be final crew proposals

Right right

Undyne

@Pirate Lord @💀 late 18th century (or otherwise aesthetically relevant) tech only for the ships, or bigass-type freeform ships? (edited)

also my idea was leaning towards the latter BUT thematically consistent

15:22

like you said

15:23

the world outside the ships will be grounded in a clear setting

15:23

whereas the ships themselves will be as the players design them

15:23

but I don't want them to be as 'all over the place' as something like bigass

15:23

Each ship should feel unique, fitting for the characters on it, and cohesive

15:24

We could even have one be an airship, or one be a submarine

That makes sense to me

If the submitted words would lend themselves to it

So it could even be like an early 20th century steamboat if it makes for the most thematically relevant vessel?

Sure yeah

Right that makes sense to me

15:25

variety in ships but keep them consistent within themselves

Im generally with spaceman here i think I think making it look like your own is really the fun of the whole thing but we can probably make it look a little less cobbled together than anni too

Sounds good to me

Yeah

once I'm done with my uni reading for today I'll be available to workshop the crew divisions

To respond to zel's thoughts, I understand how you feel about preserving the consistency of the historical setting, but we're looking for a balance here between thematic consistency and players getting to express their own unique flair

15:27

By default, the ships will be 18th century looking if there aren't any submitted words that would really alter that

15:28

But the ship is its crew's zone

15:28

And we want the crew's players to feel like it's truly theirs

15:28

Make it their own

Oh yeah are we gonna be sticking to 1 or 2 words per now, given we have slightly smaller groups?

It depends on how many areas we want the ships to cover maybe?

I assume like 3?

If we have 2 ship areas and ~8 players per crew, then 1 word per player is 4 words per area in total

Or 2

Yeah I originally was thinking 3 last month but I realized 2 is probably better

Well idk if all words will necessarily pertain to just one area

We should generally have uhh

Ig 1 per still works tho

an above deck and below deck area

yeah

Ye

that's what I was thinking

And then people can choose which area they want their word to go to?

Idk if we should restrict everyone to that

15:31

Maybe we could use our own discretion whether to count it for one the other or both

15:31

Could make it easier to design maybe too

Yeah that could be smart

Possibly

15:42

In anniversary you decided which area you wanted to contribute to

Yeah that was the original idea for this too

15:43

But doing it differently could be good since the ship areas are connected by a moveinstant

15:44

So it's more 'one big area' than the anniversary areas were

Well the thing with anni too is everyone kinda contributed to their own area Everyones gonna kinda be in the same place for the ship

Right there's no home area

15:47

or rather it's your entire ship

15:49

They'll be in-RP for the pregame right?

Yea

Yeah

16:13

Oh btw

16:13

@Undyne should superb play quagsire or axe knight

16:13

he refuses to choose for himself

16:13

the vote is split among plas akk and zel

look let him play quagsire I like pokemon

Fair lmao

16:14

Can't believe we're gonna have two blue aquatic scrimblos

so true

16:15

what did you think about me playing undyne

Ohh that would be cool

oh yeah where would like gmnpcs and npcs generally be located

16:16

i know im probably just gonna be floating around the place but

that'll come up with the objectives probably

16:16

hard to say yet

fair

Yeah

first popsplay of the year gonna possibly be undertale again

based lol

based indeed

16:21

So the bot allows you to name phases?

16:21

i.e. we don't need to call our pregame phases 1 and 2?

yeah

16:28

seems to be a new feature

Almost too bad because then I can't make the announcement look like this "On phase 1, you will build a crew. On phase 2, you will build a ship. What happens afterwards is a week of game design."

Ok how about this

16:38

@ Seafarer PREGAME DETAILS The pregame will take place over two in-game, in-character phases. During Crew phase, you will meet your Crew, and choose a Captain and a Crew Objective. During Ship phase, you will build your Crew's ship, and choose your Personal Objective. Crew phase will begin on 26-Jan-22 07:00 PM, and be followed by Ship phase the next day. After this, the game world and your characters' unique abilities will be designed. This can be expected to take approximately a week. Phase 1 will begin once this design phase is completed. The player count is 33. (edited)

well why not post both

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nah the bit isn't worth it

We could do it but it loses its luster if the phases aren't actually called phase 1 and 2

16:40

Ooh

Right

We could parody the image at least

hold on do you have it on you

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I can recreate this

16:41

how about

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I recreate this with the 1st text as a parody

16:41

and then you can post the actual instructions

This game be a yarn that do be written by you. About four crews of scurvy dogs. And the seven seas they roam. On Crew Phase, you will build a crew. On Ship Phase, you will build a ship. What happens afterwards is for the winds to decide.

16:42

Yeah that sounds perfect pop

nah I like "a week of game design"

You don't have to use this version of the parody btw

16:42

LOL

16:42

yeah

16:43

Will you replace the background image too

what should the back-

16:43

yeah

Maybe just the sea, or a ship at sea if it doesn't clash too much with the text (edited)

About a sea of pirates, And a sea of pirates.

HAHAHAA

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16:51

how is this

LMAO love it

16:53

im tempted to change the first "you" to "ye"? tho not sure

isn't ye plural

16:53

wait

16:53

that should be plural

16:53

uhh ask spaceman he knows better

We could change all the yous to yes if we wanted

should I

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I'm down lmao

16:57

As long as (edited)

16:58

We don't think there'll be too much confusion from the 'phase 1/2' in this image

16:58

And then not calling them that in reality

well

I think it's fine probably

this is just a shitpost

Yeah

16:58

Lmao

you'll actually be posting the info

A magnificent one btw

16:58

Go for it IMO

should I ping anyone

When you post it?

yeah

I was gonna ping @ Seafarer with my post but you could always do the ping

16:59

Then they'd all see my post right under your image

16:59

Up to you

16:59

I think it works either way

17:00

It could be more fun to have the ping with the image

alright I'll send the image

17:00

then ping

17:00

then you can do your message

17:00

does that work?

Sure, though is there a reason why you wouldn't just ping with the image?

17:01

Unless you're planning to embed rather than upload, then I get it

I guess I think it's less confusing if the ping is separate

17:01

and can be seen to connect moreso to your post

That's fair

17:02

Plas what were you gonna say?

oh nothing really lmao

I'll go for it

Undyne

should I ping anyone

i just thought this was joke dodging for a sec LMAO

LOL

another option for me could be thomas wake

17:08

from the lighthouse

Oh yeah

just need to do a really good popsplay

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Hahahaha

tbh undyne or dafoe are both legendary popsplay options

They are

I assume NPC characters will be announced after design is done?

17:15

I don't see a reason to reveal an unfinished cast for pregame

Yeah

17:17

We'll hold off for all npcs until then

17:17

Since there's not really much role for them to play during the crew/ship phases

another option is

17:47

I get my dad to cosplay captain haddock

LMAO

17:48

thatd be a chad move

incredible

my dad has been drawn as haddock before by his workmates

17:49

That's his thing

that's great

17:50

dadsplay

17:54

btw something i realized is that a select few characters (quagsire, hasselhoff, and james pond come to mind) should be able to swim as many tiles as they like without drowning

TRUE

17:55

ESPECIALLY HASSELHOFF LMAO

i might steal the john mcafee idea from cathode for an npc

17:58

i'm fucking losing it at the prospect of playing him in an objective game

LMAO

17:58

That would be so funny

I'm 100% going to be playing Laffite

18:00

But I'm going to try and imbed him well into the objectives of other characters and how to solve them

18:01

NPCs work well as knots, tying objectives together.

Yeah that'll be good

bread

18:07

that's how I'd describe your design philosophy spaceman (edited)

18:07

it goes well with everything

Lmao

It's similar to Brine in a way

18:08

I'm not saying it's bland though, I'm saying that you seem to be able to adapt easily.

18:08

Just like you can spread tomato sauce or nutella on bread, it'll taste good eitherway.

This is his 2nd game so far

18:09

I think it makes sense he'd be quick to adapt

Moonlit was my second game.

Right you are about that

I was going to make a point from this but I forgot what I wanted to say.

18:10

Heist was Pablo's 4th game!

I am just chillin and trying to make fun stuff really

18:12

If there's anything specific that I try to do, it's synergize with whoever I'm working with so that we all get the most out of each other's ideas

this is my first game :)

I think the main thing I found to be quite agreeable about you during wizard game

18:12

was that you look at these from the same perspective as me

18:12

which is to say, what's going to be fun for the players

18:12

and build the game off of that premise

Yeah I think we have a similar viewpoint on that

18:14

But I'm also pretty opinionfluid in general I think and that contributes to what you mentioned about being adaptable

18:14

I have some vaguely defined core principles that I can tweak around the edges to vibe better with who I'm working with

18:15

In that sense this is more than just my second rodeo, I've had several instances of trying to create an experience of some sort alongside others

18:16

And those experiences are what's sort of led me to where I am in terms of how I work in design

18:18

I don't know if my style is something I'd recommend for everybody? It can be good to have a more well-defined set of design principles if that works for you, as long as they're not so rigid as to cause conflict

18:18

But yeah basically I just try to be open minded and put fun first

King Harkinian

I don't know if my style is something I'd recommend for everybody? It can be good to have a more well-defined set of design principles if that works for you, as long as they're not so rigid as to cause conflict

cough

18:19

I guess my design philosophy is going to, over time, mellow out into something similar to this.

18:20

But I still feel like I'll be putting great attention to the consistency and the lore of the world I'm creating.

Yeah, I think it's perfectly fine to have some preferences and certain things you prioritize more than others

openness to compromise is never bad

Yeah

18:22

The more you work in design teams with different people, the more you'll see of different perspectives and that generally leads to more open-mindedness

The only issue with having squid girls with vriska is if we also do tthe vriska isnt in a group of 8 idea thats 11 in one ship anyways lol

18:36

Unless we did like 7/9/9/8 and the first one has squid girls

Barbaros

Unless we did like 7/9/9/8 and the first one has squid girls

this is what I was thinking

Could work out

18:56

I imagine squid girls still get cumulatively one v ote tho

so by our counting the squid girls are one player?

By this counting yeah

I would say so yeah

Counting each separate its 9/9/9/8

Sounds good to me

One way we can do group brainstorming

19:02

Is outlining which smaller clumps of characters we think SHOULD be together

19:02

As well as which should NOT be together

Yeah

19:02

I mean

19:02

I think theres plenty of duos i can think of at least

I'm trying to get koo to tell me what character he was thinking of playing

19:09

he mentioned nausicaa before

19:15

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19:15

my dad

Hell yeah lmao

So let's see DUOS -Entrapta, Sea Hawk -Maerk, Orla -May, Minamitsu -Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate? -Steve, Patchy? -Ceres, Koeia?

yeah so far

19:34

id also say uh

19:34

Minamitsu =/= Mononobe

Yep

19:36

And Patchy =/= The Hoff, probably? Unless we want them to bond early on over spongebob

19:36

I could see it being more fun if they met later but there'd also be a risk of them not meeting for very long in that case

19:37

Or at all

yeah, mm

19:38

i mean i feel its probably likely everyone meets everyone at some point with this game being somewhat longer

Yeah hopefully

ngl having the lake trio in this game as npcs could be cool

19:56

since the creation trio and tao trio were in previous games

How many npcs can one game have lmao

depends on how theyre planned to be played ig, yea

just throwing it out there

King Harkinian

How many npcs can one game have lmao

still probably less than cowritten

true

Re: general chat, I guess one reason to allow zucchini to play even if koo joins would be that we have even teams (7+2/9/9/9)

20:26

But

20:27

I'm really neutral on whether that's worth it

its not even like really even anyways

Yeah

20:28

Anyway cath has a good point we may need more npcs anyway

20:28

I don't want everybody here to be double shifting and I don't want anyone to be triple shifting

thats fair, if theyre willing

20:28

idk how many games theyve pleays

Yeah they've only played twice

Hasselhoff has made several self-parodic appearances in movies. He had a major role in The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie, released November 19, 2004, starring as himself (though resembling his bygone Baywatch character) and meeting SpongeBob and Patrick (his full name is heard once in the movie; he is referred to as "Hasselhoff"). Hasselhoff also had another short appearance in the movie DodgeBall: A True Underdog Story as the dodgeball coach to the German national dodgeball team, Team Hasselhoff. Berating his team after being eliminated from a tournament, he shouts "Ihr seid alle Schweine!" (translated: "You are all pigs!", a common German insult) and smashes a photo of himself in his Baywatch attire.

20:40

wait WHAT

20:41

i was NOT aware of that second part

LMAO

20:46

AMAZING

20:47

I can't believe he connects both characters

20:47

Beyond them both being dress up pirates

20:47

I completely forgot he appeared in dodgeball

How do we incorporate this lmao

oh my lol

21:09

put them on the same crew

^

All 3 of them then?

Yes

Cool

21:13

CLUMPS -Entrapta, Sea Hawk -Maerk, Orla -May, Minamitsu -Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate -Steve, Patchy, The Hoff -Ceres, Koeia ANTICLUMPS -Minamitsu, Mononobe

21:14

Edwin, Carvallain maybe another duo we might want?

koo's thinking of doing an owlboy character

21:14

I've played the game so I could design that one

Cool

Oh yeah i also kinda want specifically orla/maerk =/= ceres/koeia

21:20

Just for some variety

Alright so koo will be Twig from Owlboy if he plays

21:25

https://owlboy.fandom.com/wiki/Twig

Twig is the third gunner unlocked in Owlboy. He is a stickbug who crosses paths with Otus. Twig is a prankster and a troublemaker who likes to dress up as a spider. He has a brother and a father...

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this guy

21:25

He's worked in a pirate ship for a while so I counted it

OK cool

owlboy has an excellent aesthetic for pirate airships

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Yo nice

21:26

So maybe let's put him with some of the more steampunky characters

Sounds good to me

What if we put the slime girls with entrapta?

21:29

Since they're all like

21:29

mad scientists

CLUMPS -Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Slime Girls -Maerk, Orla -May, Minamitsu -Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate -Steve, Patchy, The Hoff -Ceres, Koeia -Edwin, Carvallain -Twig, Darien, May (airships) ANTICLUMPS -Minamitsu, Mononobe -Ceres/Koeia, Maerk/Orla

slime girls and scientists sound like they fit

Actually, DB Cooper is also an air pirate so he could be with twig, darien and may

21:38

and Aura is a wind spirit...

21:39

And Mononobe's boat is sort of floating in the bossfight it seemed like

21:39

We need one more strong personality at least if we were to make that a team

strong personality?

Yeah like someone who might be a big voice and potentially cause friction

21:41

Ehh maybe doing airship group won't work

21:41

No one else really fits that

does it have to be an air pirater

21:45

maybe someone who isn't especially tied to other types of ships

21:45

that could be sort of adopted into that group

21:45

like idk monkey buccaneer

Yeah that's what I was thinking but a lot of em are p nautical

balloons eh eh

Lmao

21:47

So -Twig, Darien, May, Mononobe, Aura, DB Cooper, Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate, Scarlett (edited)

Sure

21:47

where was demo tf2 going?

He could go anywhere

he could be airship too

Yeah guess so

21:50

I feel like Noah, Inigo, and James Pond should go together potentially

21:53

-Slime Girls, Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Ceres, Koeia, Karl, Ianis ? (edited)

are these like the crechers

-Noah, Inigo, James Pond, Muskular, Steve, Patchy, the Hoff, Minamitsu, Demoman ? (edited)

Undyne

are these like the crechers

not really supposed to be it just kinda went that way near the end

21:56

Wait I'm

21:56

Mixing stuff up here

21:57

Oh man Noah/Demoman underrated combo

22:01

Bec Trede, Maerk, Orla, Edwin, Carvallain, Cortez, Vriska, Quagsire

22:01

Moved some around

22:01

-Twig, Darien, May, Mononobe, Aura, DB Cooper, Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate, Scarlett -Slime Girls, Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Ceres, Koeia, Karl, Ianis -Noah, Inigo, James Pond, Muskular, Steve, Patchy, the Hoff, Minamitsu, Demoman -Bec Trede, Maerk, Orla, Edwin, Carvallain, Cortez, Vriska, Quagsire

22:01

Idk how I feel about these but hey more sample teams

22:02

Idk if I want Edwin, Carvallain, Cortez, and Vriska all on the same team

22:02

That's almost too many captain candidates on one team

Yeah it's good to spread them out

22:03

I'm not going to lie I haven't looked into all of these characters properly yet

I haven't either I'm just going off my base feel

22:04

There are many that I need to research more, but the ones I specifically need to learn more about are Darien, Sea Hawk, Carvallain and the touhous

most of the fish people are gonna need to have infinite swimming too

23:10

hoo boy

would bane technically count for this game because he crashes the plane with no survivors

YES

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23:54

So, do we think there are any ways we could make their character have sort of a 'special case' introduction, or should we just take care to put them in a crew where they'll sort of 'fit in' more?

23:54

Optionally, we could do some combination of the two, such as having one other character be pre-introduced to her

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00:08

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00:10

So if we're good with that then that seems pretty straightforward

00:10

Just have a message saying like There is a creature being kept prisoner here.

00:11

Or something?

yeah that works

00:13

seems like they're gonna have to skip the first two phases though

Uh

00:18

That isn't what I meant with that suggestion really

00:18

I hope that isn't what Lou thought I meant lmao

00:18

I meant that they'd still start with the crew on crew phase

00:19

But there'd be flavour text (sent by a GM) that their character is a prisoner

are the first two phases still on the ships?

First phase is nowhere in particular, second is definitely on a ship

00:22

First phase could be set on a ship

00:22

I was thinking it'd be flavoured around something that fits the crew's vibe

00:22

So it could just be onboard a ship

ok yeah then koeia being able to talk to the crew would still make sense

we should prolly add em to one of the bigger groups then

00:31

assuming we werent already planning that

00:31

but yeah this is fine

phase 1s could take place on diff docks or somethin

00:44

tho it being the ships already could work too

Well for one group it could be a ship (doesn't have to be their own), others it could be docks, others it could be a sailors' pub, etc

fair yeah

ANd here was my latest try at groupings but its a WIP

00:54

-Twig, Darien, May, Mononobe, Aura, DB Cooper, Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate, Scarlett -Slime Girls, Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Ceres, Koeia, Karl, Ianis -Noah, Inigo, James Pond, Muskular, Steve, Patchy, the Hoff, Minamitsu, Demoman -Bec Trede, Maerk, Orla, Edwin, Carvallain, Cortez, Vriska, Quagsire

00:54

Since we probably don't want Edwin, Carvallain, Cortez, and Vriska all on the same team

00:54

I'm gonna do some character research rn

00:55

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i think im decent with this so far?

Yeah I'm only gonna actually research a couple characters

00:57

But

00:57

I'm collecting wiki links

00:57

For the spreadsheet

00:57

So we have quick reference

yeye valid

01:12

lol thats impressive

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Lmao wow

So -carvallain is a true pirate but he's a fairly charismatic and affable one -sea hawk is a pirate in name only but an experienced captain, over-the-top and charismatic -minamitsu is a spirit of a drowned girl who could magically cause shipwrecks but is now a ship's captain -mononobe is super religious and gained magical powers through taoism and feng shui -darien/the dodo is a solitary airship captain who seems like an ok guy

01:37

So let me try to re-evaluate this

-Noah, Inigo, Mononobe, the Hoff, Patchy, Steve, Cortez, Demoman, Muskular -Ianis, Slime Girls, Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Minamitsu, Quagsire, James Pond -Edwin, Carvallain, Vriska, Bec Trede, Ceres, Koeia, Scarlett, Karl -Darien, Twig, May, Aura, DB Cooper, Maerk, Orla, Monkey Buccanneer, Terraria Pirate

i think i preferred the previous one more

02:00

amal wanted to be with the sharks

Hmm fair let's compare the two

02:00

-Twig, Darien, May, Mononobe, Aura, DB Cooper, Monkey Buccaneer, Terraria Pirate, Scarlett -Slime Girls, Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Ceres, Koeia, Karl, Ianis -Noah, Inigo, James Pond, Muskular, Steve, Patchy, the Hoff, Minamitsu, Demoman -Bec Trede, Maerk, Orla, Edwin, Carvallain, Cortez, Vriska, Quagsire

02:04

The reason for some of my change ideas was: -I liked putting Mononobe with Noah because they're both religious over different religions, Inigo with them because he's also very dedicated, Muskular with the Hoff because they both like to work out, and the Hoff with Noah and Inigo because they're pretty normal guys by this game's standards -I liked putting Scarlett and Karl with Vriska because they're all very chaotic, and Edwin and Carvallain are both dyed-in-the-wool rogues so they wouldn't necessarily be out of place in that group -I liked putting Minamitsu, Quagsire, Ianis and James Pond together because they're all very water-related

02:05

But I do agree

02:05

The new version is far from perfect

02:06

Plas do you want to try your hand at producing some teams? My head is spinning from thinking about this all day lmao

mm i could think about it later today, am a bit busy rn but ye

02:06

though i am realizing an inherent issue of

02:07

- wanting to have the ocs split a certain way - the sharks being together just kinda makes sense - amal wants to be with the sharks

Oh that is true lol

02:07

I guess the ocs don't need to be split

we could jsut put all the ocs aside from koeia together as theyre a bit of a special case anyways or all 4 but idk

well

02:08

we could just have ceres with maerk and orla

02:08

then bec trede would be elsewhere

02:08

and koeia would be elsewhere

right bec too

02:08

bec and koeia maybe could also be in the same

Yeah

02:09

Though

02:09

Whatever group koeia's with shouldn't be one that will immediately be like "aw I feel bad for her she's probably actually really nice let's free her immediately" (edited)

02:10

going off the lyrics of the song, bec trede isn't exactly a sweetheart, but she'd probably be the type to have sympathy for koeia

thats valid i suppose

We could put them together as long as the rest of the crew is less trusting though

yeah

02:10

could even cause conflict

02:10

assuming thats

02:10

desired by the players anyways

Well I think from what lou said, they want koeia to start off imprisoned then eventually get freed, so they'd probably want a bit of conflict involved there

yeah i could see that then

Especially since they said they were gonna play koeia as a bit of a gremlin

again ill try to think abt it more in a bit

02:11

lol yea

OK I created one I'm actually really happy with

03:12

And I did it by taking the players of each character into context

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03:21

This still isn't perfect I don't think, but I feel like it's closer

hm, perhaps! i do still kinda like the idea of muskular being more in the top left group but this is decent i think

Yeah I could switch muskular with someone there

03:24

I feel like there should be at least one other person who could conceivably vote for vriska

03:24

To make it an interesting contest

pfff

So yall can feel free to experiment with these groups on the spreadsheet, since the image here immortalizes their current state

fair nuff tho i could also just make another tab on the sheet idk i may just wanna go over all of the chars to see their likelihood for vying for leadership

That's very fair

04:24

I'm gonna dip for the night in a sec but if you want to you should go ham and see what brainstorming you can do (edited)

04:25

By 12PM EST tomorrow let's have the groups set in stone, then we'll create the initial areas, assign players to them, and send out basic profiles before starting the pregame

aight!

Also that reminds me I have a work meeting at 8:30 tomorrow. So yeah goodnight LOL

Pf ouc h

04:25

hope u get some good sleep

I should hopefully, thanks

King Harkinian

I don't want everybody here to be double shifting and I don't want anyone to be triple shifting

I want to double shift though...

Undyne

does it have to be an air pirater

In that sense, Murasa is more of an air pirate than Futo

i want to at least double shift

tbh idk if its all its cracked up to be lol

05:21

but we'll see how things go

ack sorry i really am too tired at this point to be able to think for this lol ill prob wake up earlyish tho and ill get on stuff then

What are these 3 channels for

Oh great design session at 3am

oh BOY 3AM (edited)

well i swapped a couple things around, whenever yall get on lmk ur thoughts

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15:49

for the record red is ones i deemed to be very likely leaders and orange is maybes

only thing im a bit iffy on currently is maybe swapping quagsire or somethin with someone on the bottom one or something so theres more proponents of koeia staying captured (edited)

Oh that's a good point

16:05

I do want to say that I think the 7-person team should be primarily players that will definitely be active

So just to reiterate how were we thinking of introducing koeia?

We would start that crew in the cargo hold of a ship, and state that koeia is there as a prisoner

Gotcha

16:06

Do we need to start making areas?

Probably yeah we just need to make 4 for now

King Harkinian

I do want to say that I think the 7-person team should be primarily players that will definitely be active

But yeah on this point, idk if we should put twig on the 7 person team

16:11

Because even if koo drops and it's zucchini, idk how active either of them would be

thats fair

What if we swapped twig and edwin for muskular and scarlett

i was thinking more on an assumption of the twig char that would fit there

ohh that is fair

well muskular i think we said would be good with some of the chars there? tho ig a lot of the chad stuff was kinda moved around now actually thinkin abt it idk anymore about em lmao

16:13

i feel like scarlett would be good there tho

16:13

where she is

if we were gonna go for a full chaos team it would be vriska, twig, karl, slime girls, scarlett, demoman, bec trede

lol true

16:13

i kinda wanna go like yknow

16:13

3/4 on archetypes on a lot of em tho

yeah

im pretty damn happy with group 2 now tho, as long as we can make sure they do get at least someone to claim captain lol But i think some that arent orange can possibly fit into it if they are called for as well so i think as long as its known they need one itll work out well i felt darien fit there well and it sorta fits the sorta archetype i see for that one that it just kinda feels like a webcomic roster in general lol

I think sea hawk and darien would probably both be interested in captaincy

16:16

they are both captains

yeah

16:16

thats why theyre both orange

yeah

Well

16:16

Recall that slugcat became king of monsters

16:16

Anyone can become the captain

yeye

16:17

thats kinda why i was down w/ a group without any reds

I don't think it's that scientific in the end, I wouldn't worry too much about how many "captain types" each team has

Ok I think I like swapping edwin and scarlett here?

Barbaros

thats kinda why i was down w/ a group without any reds

That would be mighty fine imo

well thats what i have w/ group 2 rn and its def my favourite group

Do you guys wanna vc the mechanical setup btw? Just doing areas and descriptions and stuff for pregame

Honestly I would like to VC the final groups too if possible

I'm free for today

I'm "free" as well (working from home but I can do stuff later) (edited)

well we got a few hours

16:21

well i guess closer to 2 cuz we gotta leave time for bot stuff too

16:22

hmm

16:22

im wondering maybe

16:23

hassehoff -> group 1 quagsire -> group 4 twig -> group 3? tho idk, hasselhoff may also be fun where he is already its more for muskular too but idk

I'm in chat

16:24

And on der riese

on what

nvm dumb joke

oh ok pf

16:24

mb

just join da vc if u can

yeaa ill join in a bit

16:25

gotta make some breakfast first

Cool cool

I just ate dinner I'm good to join

Then dew it

what do I get out of it

takethefry

I'm on a diet.

Is that what they teach you at that sissy school of yours?

16:28

Are you a pirate, or what?

get off of me man

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-weird-al-fat-gif-19154085

Lmfao

16:33

Unrelated i will never admit i think Karl is kinda hot

LOL

Barbaros

for the record red is ones i deemed to be very likely leaders and orange is maybes

You should put Murasa in red, because https://youtu.be/TWynk9aB71M

Track 09 - Captain Murasa [Touhou 12: Undefined Fantastic Object OST]

16:41

Pretty obvious Pablo's going to be heading for being the ship's captain

16:42

Also, friendly reminder that this is what Murasa's ship looks like in Touhou.

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16:43

Also, one concern I have is that crew 3 is going to feel like carryall crew for all the rejects.

Ah hm, good to know Wdym tho? I mostly saw 3 as just Pirate group

Crew 1 has the air pirate deal going on, crew2 has OCs and crew 4 has homestuckcore people

16:45

crew 3 is a bit generic

i wouldn't call inigo montoya homestuckcore

Kinda the idea tho i think for 3

3 is pirates baby

Yeah obviously it doesn't fit for every character

3 is like the "Stereotypical pirate group" with some mild wild cards ofc

I mean, Murasa isn't even a pirate lol

16:45

She just sinks ships as a hobby

16:46

because ghost

I mean Hasselhoff and murasa i think are the main wild cards

Y'know what, that's actually fair. (edited)

16:47

But even then Murasa is more of an air pirate than Futo right?

16:47

Should they be swapped?

16:48

I'm really out there being the "resident touhou expert" huh

I mean. Valid lol

That said, crew 1 already has 2 "likely captains"

16:49

and Murasa and very much so that

I think we maybe shouldn't think too much in terms of likely captains

16:50

Like it's valid to consider so that we don't overload one team

16:51

But

16:51

Anything can happen

tbf Futo's probably the least boat person here

Yeah

Man it's crazy both Futo and Murasa are likely to have their objective be "resurrect my homie" (edited)

16:54

different homies but still

I put futo with Noah because they're both religious over different religions (that aren't religious war level opposed)

I mean tbh Futo's the kind of person to start a war with judaism but

16:56

ok tbh that's more of a Seiga thing

Lmao

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perhaps?

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17:07

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Byakuren Hijiri

Also, friendly reminder that this is what Murasa's ship looks like in Touhou.

Could this work?

It depends on how the ships get built

17:11

we're not deciding on any forms of vessels beforehand

talking about a phase 1

You mean one team would be meeting on an airship?

17:11

We're aiming to make the areas nondescript

Ah I see

so then we can later possibly connect them into the game world in some way

fighting game training stage ngl

But we're not establishing concrete locations yet

17:12

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CREW PHASE RULES For Crew phase, you have been placed in an area together with the other members of your Crew. Your goal will be to determine your Crew's Captain, and have your say in choosing a Crew Objective. Role Information There are two baseline roles: Captain and Sailor. Each Crew can only have one Captain. The Captain can: -Set the initial Crew Objective -Change the Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game -Choose up to two Mates (First and Second) -Change each Mate 1 time during the game -Have the Crew Objective count for their Personal Objective (optional) -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board -Move on and off their own ship using a !moveinstant Sailors can: -Choose a secondary Skill Role during Ship phase, which each grant special Skills -Move on and off their own ship using a !moveinstant Skill Roles available to Sailors will be explained in the Ship Phase Rules. Each Skill Role will, as the name implies, grant a special Skill to reflect their role in the Crew. There are also two unclaimable Skill Roles: First and Second Mate. These roles are assigned by the chosen Captain at the end of Crew phase. In addition to baseline Sailor abilities, Mates can: -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board, if the Captain is not on board -Apply a boost each phase to either their own roll, or the Captain's -Inherit the Captaincy if the original Captain dies Phase Information The recipient of the Captaincy will be decided by a vote. Discussion will happen during this phase. If you are not seeking the Captaincy yourself, you may be inclined to support the candidate with the proposed Crew Objective you most agree with. At the end of this phase, you will submit your role claim. If you claim Captain, this will include your Crew Objective and Mate selections. If you claim Sailor, this will include your vote for Captain. (edited)

17:30

Action Items If you claim Captain, please format your !do action this phase as follows:

!do Claim Captain Crew Objective: <Crew Objective of choice> First Mate: <character of choice> Second Mate: <character of choice>

If you claim Sailor, please format your !do action this phase as follows:

!do Claim Sailor Captain Vote: <character of choice>

There is no penalty for claiming Captain and losing the vote. If this occurs, you will have another chance to choose a role during rollover. Please message a GM if you have any questions about these rules. (edited)

17:30

TL;DR Read Action Items and consult the other rules as needed for context.

17:36

**__Player:__** **__Character:__** **__Crewmates:__**

17:37

**__Player:__** Brinelex Brine **__Character:__** Ianis **__Crewmates:__** Entrapta, Sea Hawk, Ceres Leadbow, Maerk, Orla Nevvit, Darien/The Dodo, Quagsire, James Pond

**__Player:__** Locke **__Character:__** Pirate Demoman **__Crewmates:__**

Aura Cortez Noah Mononobe no Futo Koeia D.B. Cooper Edwin VanCleef

Player: Locke Character: Pirate Demoman Crewmates: Aura Cortez Noah Mononobe no Futo Koeia D.B. Cooper Edwin VanCleef

17:57

Player: Locke Character: Pirate Demoman Crewmates: Aura Cortez Noah Mononobe no Futo Koeia D.B. Cooper Edwin VanCleef

17:57

Player: Locke Character: Pirate Demoman Crewmates:

Cortez Noah Mononobe no Futo Koeia D.B. Cooper Edwin VanCleef

tbh we don't have that much to do do we

17:58

just prepare quick areas give them the rules and drop 'em for now

17:58

right

yeah we're gettin that down

gl

think we'll be good

17:59

ty

quite busy rn so

17:59

can't help

17:59

Got pulled a dirty on me about boarding school so i'm probably staying 2 more weeks

17:59

but I'm still wiling to give my mom the benefit of the doubt it was a honest mistake

18:00

if that happens again though nope, not taking me for a fool once more

Damn wtf

18:08

That's not great I hope it was just a mistake, but still sucks

dam yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/316978886087016449/935125353532362762/IMG_3912.mp4

How did you wind up here? Well, each one of you has a different tale. All you know is that the voyage ahead has a chance to bring you all that you wish for. Will that be worth joining this crew? Who knows, but first things first, you'll have to figure out who will take the helm...

oh shit lmk if you need my assistance with anything

18:49

i overslept and then was busy

Is it time?

19:01

@Pirate Lord

Yes

I CAN'T SEE SHIT

19:04

We can't see shit

19:05

@King Harkinian yeah but that's annoying

19:05

I prefer to watch the chat itself

19:05

ughhh fine

19:05

But I'd really prefer just seeing eveerything @Pirate Lord

19:06

We can see earlogs (edited)

19:11

@Pirate Lord couldn't you just start a new game

not now lol

for it to be phase 1 again

oh u mean later

19:11

eh

Nah

19:11

so it can be phase 1

19:12

Oh you can?

19:12

Wasnt a thing last time I hosted sorry

19:13

@King Harkinian lmao you should be a voice actor my dude that was really good

19:13

the "see if it pays off"

19:16

idk we rp'd for anniv phase 1 (edited)

19:16

at least in the human side

19:16

oh

19:16

get better at jokes ngl

19:17

pablo doesn't rp LOL

19:17

too based for that (edited)

19:18

A nae?

19:18

A nae nae??

19:19

hasselhoff been taking estrogen

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19:20

THIS IS HOW THEY GET YOU

19:21

We could have also sorted crews by timezones

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-mmmm-monkey-turtle-kung-fu-panda-gif-17129341

pimpchimpin

https://tenor.com/view/monke-monkey-super-mario-bros-movie-1993-gif-21964968

Monkey!

aulraune rps always kino

19:34

tbh I'd prefer seeing everything for the simple reason I won't remember who's playing who

19:34

if I don't

That's fair

19:41

I mean I don't mind letting you view the game channels for now but taking away access when the proper game begins (edited)

i love discord

This is terrible

21:05

I can't see any gameplay lol

AAAAAAA

21:40

Now that I'm on mobile I can at least access discord in some capacity but I can't see any of the channels we added today

21:40

I.e. any of the actual game channels

dam

21:40

i can see things mostly fine lol

21:41

tho still upsetting cuz not everyone can talk ofc

I'm back

21:47

pc finally logged on

Yeah mobile is fully working for me again

21:54

Let me try browser

good news is

21:54

koo is playing

21:54

he said he won't be able to interact until a bit later so he'll ask either of you guys to drop him in

21:55

cause I'm sleeping soon

Ok I'll move him

not yet

Well

21:55

He's playing

right I guess he just doesn't want to be afk for 4 hours after being ceremoniously dropped in

Fair enough I suppose

21:56

So will he dm one of us?

can players pin messages in game channels?

21:56

That was a thing in anniversary and could be a thing here

21:56

yeah he would dm you

22:02

also mutineers would be informed only if they lost a captain pitch right?

yeah

Yeah

right

So the teams are still basically working out as expected

23:01

Pier gang is all respectful and friendly

23:01

Dock gang is full pirate mode

23:01

Cargo is split over koeia

23:02

And tavern is a freaking chaos zone

23:02

I love it

23:02

Though I gotta say

23:02

We should probably allow some limited ability to swap teams in gameplay (but make it non-obvious)

23:02

Like

23:03

People can rp swapping teams but it'll be inconvenient without the ability to moveinstant onto their 'new team's' ship (edited)

maybe like

23:14

they have to have been situated on the crews ship for at least like a phase or something and then also get the captains consent

Really excited to design the game around different team objectives

23:38

Pier squad seems to want to become some kind of a The Lifesavers

23:39

While tavern squad is crazy about violence

So

00:04

Do you have to claim captain to be voted captain

00:04

I'd probably say yes?

00:04

But that also means you could have no one claim captain

We can tell pier crew that they'd be able to make their ship an airship during ship phase right?

00:28

What if I say this

00:28

"(You could make your ship an airship via ship phase, though it would likely have only minor mechanical impact; if you were to do it as an objective, it could theoretically have a bigger impact, but would obviously have the inherent difficulty of any objective)"

00:29

@Barbaros wdyt?

What does doing it as an objective mean?

They would set their objective to something like "send our ship into the sky"

00:30

their crew objective

00:31

Basically they're asking whether they should set their crew objective to that, or if it's pointless because they can just achieve it during ship phase

I suppose? Id think thats not something theyd want to waste an objective in tho

Yeah lmao

I get ur post now then i think tthas good

Honestly

00:33

I might just say

00:35

"You could make your ship an airship during ship phase, yes, though keep in mind all ships will be balanced to work within the game's mechanics"

Yeah im good with that

They're also asking if they can have two captains lmao

00:36

I don't think I'm gonna answer that right now

00:37

I'll just say "the Captaincy of each ship will be resolved based on each player's claim and vote submissions."

00:38

Ooh even better

00:38

"resolved in an appropriate manner based on the collected votes and claims"

Ianis

Muskular ⭐ Slime Girls

Minamitsu Murasa

Vriska Serket : Cortez

Pirate Demoman

Ceres Leadbow

May

Steve the Pirate

Captain Scarlett

Monkey Buccaneer monke

monke

Aura

️ Miss Bec Trede

‍

Sea Hawk ✨ Noah

D.B. Cooper ✈️ Karl

Mononobe no Futo

️ James Pond

️ Entrapta

️ Maerk Orla Nevvit Patchy the Pirate

Koeia

Pirate

‍

️ Carvallain de Gorgagne : Darien/The Dodo

Edwin VanCleef

️ David Hasselhoff

Inigo Montoya

Twig Quagsire

01:44

So that leaves Vriska, Maerk, Orla, Carvallain, and Twig

01:44

Plus any suggestions yall might have for replacements on the others

01:44

@💀 zodiac symbols are a homestuck thing right, what's vriska's

Gotcha

01:46

I'll only set some of the really obvious ones for these since I know plas wanted to help with emoji

i know nothing about karl why is he

He's a statue

01:46

That's alive or something

oh

01:46

makes sense

01:46

also do you know if mysterybot takes server emotes?

I can try to find out by trying to set monke

monke

for maack

definitely pogsire

pogsire

for quagsire if it can

OHH LMAO

01:47

YEAH

01:48

Seems like it partially supports them

01:48

But I'll check with ahmayk what the sidebar is

for funny dungeons and dragons, idk lmao

01:48

twig is def

Oh good yeah

01:49

Do you have any better ideas to improve on mine for some of the other ones

01:49

Ok ahmayk says sidebar doesn't matter bc it's for the future if the bot makes design threads

idk im mostly good with these i think?

so we can use pogsire

pogsire

awesome

Want to help with setting some of these?

carvallain could be

long as i know how the bot works

01:51

er command

oh yeah it's just !emoji <player> <emoji>

oke

01:52

is there a mass command?

Sadly no

01:52

Gotta do it one by one

ah ok

01:53

ill go from the bottom up

Gucci

yeah i have no clue what to do for ianis/maerk

01:55

two sharks

maerk can be dragon cuz dnd

01:56

maybe orla can be crab? just cuz thats sors desc idk lmao

that works

Sweet that's all of em

Epic

We had better get some more action before phase end

(edited)

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i hope people read the #pirates-code

Me too

02:25

Luckily we have ways to remind people tomorrow

02:25

Maybe I can even post something cryptic hinting at the mutineer

So

03:30

Nup mentioned if players could get pin perms

03:30

Only problem is giving them that perm also gives them delete perms

03:30

I'm assuming we trust everyone (and I mean earlog exists anyway) but I just want to check if we're ok with giving players that perm like they had in anniversary?

03:30

In anni was it just for pregame phases?

iirc it was in soup?

03:40

and it ended up being fine

Well I'm ok with doing it if you and pop are

04:29

Oh also fyi since I'm about to head to bed, I haven't gotten anything from koo yet

I added koo he came up after you went to bed

09:36

So I was thinking, maybe we can give the option to be a mutineer to some people who try to run for captain but might not end up doing it as their action?

09:37

Like I think vriska might be

No yeah that was the plan

12:07

Wed dm everyone who applied for captain but failed at rollover

hey what did you pin anyways

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12:12

Also, so far the cargo crew is my favorite.

12:14

But yeah honestly this is

12:14

harder to follow without seeing the actual channels (edited)

12:14

Taking note ; I'm allowing NPCs to see all channels in my future games

Theres 2 pins and both are just captains full plans

12:15

Cortez and Karl iirc

Yeah well

12:15

It'd be better if I could actually check back on those

12:15

instead of having to go through an intermediary

Well i admit earlog isnt the most fun

Sorry for being pissy about this but really this is just about quality of life - especially so since NPCs are supposed to take a pretty big design position in this specific game (edited)

I just woke up and am on mobile so i dont trust my ability to change stuff rly lol but idk we'll see when spaceman comes online

yeah

12:17

Also honestly, it's not too much of an issue that players can see NPCs in the side bar in their own channels even if they're not in the area

12:17

Because GMNPCs are a thing and that works just fine

12:17

just refer to the first bot message (which is pinned )

I think we can let npcs see the pregame channels

12:18

I think spaceman said as much so I thought he did it

I think we can let NPCs see all the game channels.

12:18

Even after pregame.

But then that leads to more of "wait so is that npc actually in this area or what"

I've brought this up earlier and it's a non-problem.

12:18

Or a very minimal one.

12:19

NPCs are part of staff and so they should probably be able to see everything.

12:19

Especially so since we actually have bot perms.

12:20

~~npc civil rights movement~~

I mean zel has a bit of a point Its mildly confusing but its mot that bad, as u can kinda tell just based on the intro message and also if theyre. Actually talking or not But shrug well see

ugh nvm I can't actually do most bot commands

12:23

Honestly I regret not having asked to be a GM when I could have I think lol

12:23

I didn't realize how much I missed designing

I tried to change the category perms but looks like I'd have to do it channel by channel

You could ask Ahmayk if there's a way to automate it through bot

I believe you'd need to be added as a player for that? Like none of the GMs or NPCs are players yet

12:24

within the bot

12:25

By the way, Koo can't send an action through the bot due to the manual movement, so he's claiming sailor and voting for bleugh v- cough vriska

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pinned a message.

Byakuren Hijiri

Honestly I regret not having asked to be a GM when I could have I think lol

I think Plas definitely deserves to be GM more though on the simple premise that he hasn't hosted before

12:26

But I believe he has NPC'd

RACISM CREW RACISM CREW

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I mean figures tbh

12:41

Tavern is more fun than I anticipated

which crew i'm rooting for so far : cargo > dock > tavern > pier

12:42

I have apprehension for pier, I feel like they're going to be too nice for pirate game.

12:43

And I'm tired of games being silly and nice.

12:43

Let's just hope I'm wrong and their general mindset wont triumph.

12:44

cargo is just a fun crew overall, there's so many nice dynamics going on

12:44

and it's phase 1

Most games arent nice honestly theyre just no one having killer instinct

12:44

I think theyre a great group and they contrast the rest well

I think the problem isn't being nice, it's not being serious and playing more shitposty.

12:45

As well as "shitpost" design that doesn't take itself seriously

12:46

That's my grippe with modern objective honestly

12:46

people not taking themselves seriously in their rp, or the way they design

people seem to be as a whole taking their rp seriously though

Eh people are fully allowed to play shitposty chars and stuff as long as it doesnt hamper the serious ones Which i think is just down to the % of each and whos put with each other I think piers atill good cuz most of them are still somewhat serious they jusr also have quag and pond

quagsire's rp is being taken seriously

12:48

superb is clearly putting a lot of care into it

12:48

just not the most serious character

Well yeah ig lol

12:55

When i think abr it It may not be likely but what would we do with a theoretical tie?

hmm

13:15

~~rock paper scissors~~

We could break it based on roll maybe lmao

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14:29

Incredible

quick maffs

Also I gave npcs the ability to see the gameplay channel category, but the channels' perms aren't synced so I'd have to update them individually

14:33

So hopefully the permission will propagate when we !nextphase? but idk

14:33

If it has to be entirely manual then it's not gonna be worth it

Barbaros

When i think abr it It may not be likely but what would we do with a theoretical tie?

Clowder just asked me this so we should probably decide soon

15:20

Breaking it based on roll would be easy but idk if it's entirely fair

i mean it is a bit odd but idk how to do it that would be fair lol

Yeah

bring dick game dick size mechanics to decide

TRUE

(vriska automatically loses)

the cis girl and statue measure dicks we get nowhere

15:24

(it would be really funny if we did this in rp tho lmao) like we say "oh, tiebreaker is dick size! ...well, shit"

Barbaros

the cis girl and statue measure dicks we get nowhere

cis girl?

15:25

more like cis troll

1

true

15:26

this is honestly so telling so far LMAO

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15:26

there are 4 types of groups (edited)

15:29

oh i just realized, what if you were both a 1st/2nd mate and a mutineer?

15:29

i guess youd just have more power lol

Yeah

oh also, will we tell everyone what sailors can be when it comes to it?

Yeah

so mutineers can lie better lol if they so wish

In phase 2 we'll give them the list of skill roles

15:30

But you know

15:30

I think we could actually say that players can submit their own if they want (and we'll turn it into something appropriate and balanced)

15:30

While still giving the main 5 as default options

mm maybe?

Like I know demoman wants to be 'Gunner'

itd be cool for sure but maybe would be overcomplicating it idk

15:31

hm well thats fair but mm

15:31

theyll have their own abilities anyways after

Yeah, that's true

15:32

I don't think it's too complicated since whatever happens it'll just be a small bonus ability or roll bonus

15:32

But it does give us more design work

15:32

Which we already will have enough of

pf yea

So I guess since koo is playing I can make zucchini a spectator

were we gonna ask em if they wanted to npc?

Well we could yeah but we don't know if we'll need em yet

15:33

If they're in spectator chat then we could easily pull em in

fair

I'll tell them there's a chance of npcing though and ask if they'd be interested in doing it

15:34

If we need them

mhm

15:34

sounds good

So I'm thinking

15:51

players will have one unique ability and one sailor ability?

15:51

and maybe one unique skill as well (roll bonus)

thatd be cool

15:53

to make it kinda consistent

so what is the plan for the pier group?

16:12

i think we agree to give them the two captains, but in terms of first mates

16:12

er, mates in general i mean

16:13

we could just say one replaces first mate, but since they both have different mates for the other position we could just do 1. entrapta 2. ceres

I love all this stuff about Encino

16:24

All of the other crews are going to be like WTF are you people talking about

16:25

Honestly we should set it up as like

16:25

Some mythical land

16:25

El Dorado type of place

16:25

That they have to find rather than having it be somewhere obvious on the map

how did you guys not consider what to do if there's a tie

16:31

I'd say do it mafia style and give everyone an hour to vote

16:32

between the two tied

I don't know if it'll help

16:36

Since it's such small groups

I mean, we can always try

16:37

Have some people not voted? If yes it's worth it

16:38

We don't have to break game mechanics because players can't decide

Honestly for me it's just the annoyance of the 1 hour delay

i mean tbh i also dunno if id say its any fairer than it being totally random

But yeah if there's a tie and not everyone has voted, then obviously we'll get those people to vote for the tiebreaker

oh well yeah

Also in 4 minutes we should send out reminders

16:56

Get those peeps in the zone for the last 2 hours

right

Ok sending em now

17:08

Or wait

17:08

Maybe I'll send em at 12:30 so it's a nice round number

this games gone so well so far lmao

17:24

even in spite of discord being discord

Yeah I agree lol

17:30

Alright time to remind

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17:39

I think if you don't submit a claim you'll automatically be assigned the 'sailor' role as a technicality

17:40

But I should probably also tell them they can think outside the box for their claim if they want

Sure

17:43

i told cerb to turn on dms from non friends for the duration of the game

17:43

apparently she has it off for annoying fnf kids

LOL

17:44

Rip

taoism kinda based ngl

King Harkinian

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Lou literally punching themselves in the face this whole pregame lol

17:47

"ooooh no i'm stuck in a cage!!!!!"

17:47

(the gms never said there was a cage)

LOL

17:47

Well

17:47

We did say there was a cage

never said they were in it though

We'll also restrict them to the belowdecks area going forward until someone lets them out

Damn I hate Muskular (in a good way)

Karl/Vriska may end up the only legit mutineer lol which is funny

yeah lmao

How do we even handle two captains?

18:06

From now on the prier crew shall be know as the quirky crew

18:06

because they wanna be quirky

Let's see

18:09

Here's what a normal captain can do -Set the initial Crew Objective -Change the Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game -Choose up to two Mates (First and Second) -Change each Mate 1 time during the game -Have the Crew Objective count for their Personal Objective (optional) -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board

18:09

So if the captaincy is split, then let's say each co-captain can only change the crew objective once

18:09

And each gets one mate choice

maybe yeah and maybe they have to agree on other things?

They can only change one mate once per game

the mate choice thing works out cuz both chose the other and also one other person

Initial crew objective must be the same (I think it is)

18:10

Yes (edited)

18:10

And

anyways i made a short possible writeup for the pier, could use some parts of it in the other ones if wanted also could be edited idk lol i just sorta wrote it up

They either have to agree on where the ship should move while on board, and if they don't, then whoever gets the higher roll will decide where to go

fair enough

18:11

"And so, now everyone has silently...or, otherwise, cast in their votes. The results are in... A dual captaincy, of Quagsire and The Dodo! Something totally unprecedented! But, aye, no one said you couldn't, right? A nearly unanimous vote, decided without much in-fighting to be had! How nice for you."

Well

18:12

In anniversary game none of the results were actually made public

18:12

people just got their role dms

ah well fair i guess? idk if it makes much a difference either way honestly

18:12

though could remove the part about it being unanimous

I kind of like the idea of it being left behind the scenes and the players have to communicate it themselves

Undyne

In anniversary game none of the results were actually made public

To be a contrarian once again, we don't have to do everything like Anniversary.

Let me prepare phase 2 rules rn

i mean we are gonna have a tie lmao

18:32

a possibl idea does come to mind tho lol

18:34

we could maybe like

18:34

do a "trial by combat" of sorts lol where we just get both to quickly submit an action to fight the other and we have some sort of criteria for them to aim for to win and then we heal them back after

18:34

idk its an idea

18:34

they dont have abilities yet, mind

18:35

but idk

SHIP PHASE RULES For Ship phase, you have been placed in one of two areas of your Crew's under-construction ship. These areas are (and will remain) connected by !moveinstant. Your goal will be to contribute to your ship's design, and additionally, choose your own Personal Objective. Shipbuilding Information Each member of the Crew will be able to submit 2 words to be used in the design of the ship's areas. These may be used to formulate mechanical features (such as weapons) or aesthetic features. A player may choose to apply one word to each area, apply both to the same area, or specify no particular area. The ship's name may also be discussed this phase. The Captain will submit the final choice of name. Optionally, each Mate can submit a link to a song to provide music for either area. Ship mechanics will be posted at the beginning of Phase 1, but do note that ships will be able to take damage and have movement speed modifiers. Personal Objective Information Each player will submit a Personal Objective at the end of this phase. This will be an additional goal for just your character, on top of the Crew Objective. Captains may choose to make it the same as their Crew Objective. Skill Role Information If you are a Sailor and not already a Mate, you may choose a Skill Role. Default Skill Roles consist of the following options: Lookout, Surgeon, Gunner, Cook, and Midshipman. There can be more than one Sailor with a given Skill Role. If none is selected, the default is Midshipman. You may submit a Role outside of these, but it will be adapted and balanced appropriately. You will learn the exact effect of your role when you receive your full profile before Phase 1. (edited)

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Action Items If you are a Sailor, please format your !do action as follows:

!do Design Words: <word 1> (<area, if applicable>), <word 2> (<area, if applicable>) Personal Objective: <objective of choice> [IF NOT MATE] Skill Role: <skill role of choice> [IF MATE] Area Music: <link> (<area>) (optional)

If you are Captain, please format your !do action as follows:

!do Ship Name: <name of choice> Design Words: <word 1> (<area, if applicable>), <word 2> (<area, if applicable>) Personal Objective: <objective of choice, or "Same as Crew Objective">

Please message a GM if you have any questions about these rules.

Barbaros

do a "trial by combat" of sorts lol where we just get both to quickly submit an action to fight the other and we have some sort of criteria for them to aim for to win and then we heal them back after

I mean this could be good but it might be difficult to pull off?

we could maybe say we make em like just fight bare knuckle or somethin idk

Well not all captains would want to earn the captaincy based on strength in the first place

well yeah ik

18:40

its just that

I feel like it could be better to just have a real tiebreaker

its just gonna be vriska and karl lol

18:40

well thats fair ig i just

Yeah

18:40

Although (edited)

i feel like theyd rather know they need a tiebreaker and how to get one rather than just

18:40

it being put onto them

18:40

and they kinda need a captain before phase 2 probably

18:41

er phase ship

18:41

also we dont have ship areas yet do we lol

We don't yet no

we do plan on having those phase ship yeah? or nah

Yeah

18:42

We should name them like

18:42

1-belowdecks 1-topdeck 2...etc

fair yeah

18:43

oh also

18:43

we could like

18:43

tell them of the tie then like idk somehow open it again for a bit and have them agree on a tiebreaker themselves maybe with some sort of time limit

18:43

perhaps while we work on the other stuff lol

18:43

idk its kinda unorthodox but its possible

Yeah

18:44

It'd basically force inigo to pick one of karl or vriska

18:44

Because it's like a runoff vote

18:44

Only the 2 tied candidates can be selected

oh if u wanted to do that maybe

Well

18:45

It'd be done as a public "overtime" mode

18:45

Rather than singling out inigo

18:45

But functionally that's what'd prob happen

maybe

18:45

i think maybe we just say we leave it up to vriska and karl, as the candidates

@Undyne are you available to discuss stuff with us here and maybe vc?

and give them a time limit

18:45

maybe also like say what will happen if they dont decide in time?

18:46

like we just coin flip or something

Yeah

18:46

We say it'll be decided based on roll

Consider not everybody from the group is available to do a tiebreaker

I am considering it

thats fine yeah i feel like we only really need 2 or maybe 3 people tho and i feel fairly sure theyll be there

What's more fair, ruling out people who aren't around for rollover, or making it a coin flip

18:48

Neither is perfect

18:48

Of course

18:48

We could just say that inigo has to change his vote

18:48

And put him on the spot

eh i think theyd prob prefer not that

King Harkinian

SHIP PHASE RULES For Ship phase, you have been placed in one of two areas of your Crew's under-construction ship. These areas are (and will remain) connected by !moveinstant. Your goal will be to contribute to your ship's design, and additionally, choose your own Personal Objective. Shipbuilding Information Each member of the Crew will be able to submit 2 words to be used in the design of the ship's areas. These may be used to formulate mechanical features (such as weapons) or aesthetic features. A player may choose to apply one word to each area, apply both to the same area, or specify no particular area. The ship's name may also be discussed this phase. The Captain will submit the final choice of name. Optionally, each Mate can submit a link to a song to provide music for either area. Ship mechanics will be posted at the beginning of Phase 1, but do note that ships will be able to take damage and have movement speed modifiers. Personal Objective Information Each player will submit a Personal Objective at the end of this phase. This will be an additional goal for just your character, on top of the Crew Objective. Captains may choose to make it the same as their Crew Objective. Skill Role Information If you are a Sailor and not already a Mate, you may choose a Skill Role. Default Skill Roles consist of the following options: Lookout, Surgeon, Gunner, Cook, and Midshipman. There can be more than one Sailor with a given Skill Role. If none is selected, the default is Midshipman. You may submit a Role outside of these, but it will be adapted and balanced appropriately. You will learn the exact effect of your role when you receive your full profile before Phase 1. (edited)

Oh also,Jolly roger design

18:49

for mates

I feel like flag design can be everybody

18:50

Since we like

18:50

Don't really have a place to put it

Sure, but you've got to have someone submit it

And we don't want to force people to submit it

18:50

It should be an optional flavour thing if people feel like it

Make it optional then like the song

18:50

but do suggest it

I also have a feeling they should have the design week to make it?

Oh that's a good point

That's fair actually

18:51

sure

Or maybe the mate submits a written idea for how it looks

18:51

And we can make it during the week

Have them make it

18:51

Less work for us

Sure lol

nah we're going to have enough work already

And so, now everyone has silently...or, otherwise, cast in their votes. The results are in, and....well. I'm sure you all probably already figured, but the current captaincy vote is a tie between Vriska and Karl! Naturally, we will break this tie using the 'ol tried and true method, dick size! So whoever has the bigger dick wins! ...Well, shit. I suppose we need a backup plan...Let's go into OVERTIME! You all (mostly the two captain candidates) have 1 hour to discuss how you want to go about breaking this tie! If you haven't decided and acted on said tie by then, we will pick the captain based on a coin flip. Good luuuck!

18:52

idk if 1 hour is good or not lol but

Wait how do we make crews organize on flag making if they have no area to talk

phase 2 lol

They can design it next phase and make it after

er

18:52

phase ship

18:52

dammit pf

phas 2 isn't 2weeks

sHHH

This is something that we should have thought of before if we wanted to make a clear rule/process for it

anyways idk hows my idea lol

It's too last minute to put in phase 2 rules

Not really

We can just suggest it unofficially

But yeah

How is it

18:53

we have like

18:53

8 minutes

We have the entire rollover lol

I'd do it if I wasn't busy with boarding stuff rn

We don't have to post any rules yet

We have to decide what to do about tiebreaker, we have to decide what to do about 2-person captains, we have to agree on the phase 2 rule post, and we have to update everything for the players

18:54

I am literally at work

18:54

I was just in a meeting where I didn't have to do anything

fair

So I was fine with just being here

18:54

But I can't spend too long doing rollover

18:54

I have work to do

ok space why did you put rollovers during your work hours though

i can get to work on the role dms if someone else can help with the areas

Because I'm working from home

Well we can decide on the major things quickly

18:55

And if you need to go me and plas will do the menial work

18:55

And progress the phase

well the tiebreaker i think is the most immediate thing if we do this idea

18:55

cuz preferably they talk about it while we do the rollover

yeah

for other groups

So we lock, post what you wrote up, then unlock and let them go at it? (edited)

i think so

and ping them all

is an hour good? or more

18:56

erm

18:56

lessi m ean

18:56

lmao

Sounds good

We should require everyone to vote

We can't

18:56

They won't all be around in an hour

unless they're not here

It'd go way overtime

i think zel means for the other stuff?

18:57

but eh

Their vote will be considered the same as their existing vote

18:57

If they don't re-vote

everyone in taverns voted and thts the only one that can be a tie rn lol

Yeah

sure

Give them 45 minutes

45 mins? ok

Or even 30

why not 1h

I guess 1h is fine but it just feels like a long time with not very much that still needs to be said

thats kinda fair yeah i was thinking either 1h or 30m

idk knowing from mafia tiebreaks

It's basically just one person who has to choose

a lot of things are said

Barbaros

thats kinda fair yeah i was thinking either 1h or 30m

Then let's do 45m as a compromise

but fair

18:58

45m sure

Ok

18:58

That's settled

18:58

Otherwise, Cortez wins and Terraria wins

I can vc now

As for the dual captain thing

18:59

We have to decide how we're counting votes

18:59

Because that affects the outcome

18:59

Ok I'll join vc but still type stuff for zel

wdym how we're counting votes

Well

the dual has a pretty vast majority

We can count the quag/dodo votes as votes for "Quagsire And Dodo" as one entity

anyways should we lock and me post overtime now

If we do that

19:00

They win easily as a duo

19:00

Or

19:00

We count them as split votes between the two

19:00

Which is what I was originally doing

SHIT

And if we do that

19:00

Amal's quagsire vote

WHY IS THERE ANOTHER TIE NOW

Would mean that quagsire wins

i disagree with that tbh

19:01

they agreed on the dual captain vote mostly

I think you're probably right plas

anyways we have. another tie now

19:01

which sucks cuz i cant make the dick size joke for them

It's more fair to them if we count their votes as what they intended

19:02

Rather than letting amal screw them over via a technicality

ye lol

19:02

in a sense, its like a successful write-in

Yeah

but uh yeah should we lock and i can post the tiebreak stuff? tho i gotta edit it slightly for the other group now lol

19:04

ok can i post the things?

19:04

theyre in #3-sibelius-cellar because im stupid and clicked the wrong one lmao

this is your captain with spotify header

19:04

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oh wait i need a ping too probably

THIS IS YOUT CAPTAIN

ill just add it after

19:05

but yeah can i do that now

Your bid for the Captaincy has failed. Will you serve as a Sailor under the command of your Captain, <player>, or seek to overthrow their rule or establish your own elsewhere? Send a GM "Sailor" or "Mutineer" to confirm your choice.

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Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pinned a message.

You have won your bid to become the captain of your crew! Your mates are X (first mate) and Y (second mate). As the captain, you can: -Change the Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game -Change each Mate 1 time during the game -Have the Crew Objective count for your Personal Objective (optional) -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board -Move on and off your own ship using a !moveinstant.

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You have won your bid to become the captain of your crew... along with another! You are now a co-captain! You both share one first mate, Ceres. As a co-captain, you can: -Change the Crew Objective ONCE during the game -Change Mate ONCE during the game -Have the Crew Objective count for your Personal Objective (optional) -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship by either -agreeing with your co-captain about the direction -or rolling higher than your co-captain in the case of a disagreement. -Move on and off your own ship using a !moveinstant.

Your role is Sailor. Help your Captain to complete the Crew Objective!

19:27

Your role is Sailor, as the Captain's First Mate! Help your Captain to complete the Crew Objective!

19:27

Your role is Sailor, as the Captain's Second Mate! Help your Captain to complete the Crew Objective!

your role is sailor you're vanilla townie

19:30

Chadlo Smith

Barbaros

"And so, now everyone has silently...or, otherwise, cast in their votes. The results are in... A dual captaincy, of Quagsire and The Dodo! Something totally unprecedented! But, aye, no one said you couldn't, right? A nearly unanimous vote, decided without much in-fighting to be had! How nice for you."

woo

You have chosen to be a Mutineer. Instead of a Crew Objective, you have a Mutineer Objective: **Become a Captain by any means necessary**. Your abilities once Phase 1 begins will include the following: -As a bonus action, contest the Captain or Mate's chosen destination while on board your ship, if you beat their roll by 5 -For each crew member who has said or done something in support of you, the roll threshold is reduced -At any point, you may declare a Mutiny. This forces a new vote for the captaincy, between you and the current Captain. You may only do this once. -If the Captain is killed with your involvement and you are not a Mate, Mutiny is declared automatically. Any Mate (with priority given in ascending order) may choose to contest you for the captaincy in a vote. If all Mates decline, you become the new Captain. -If the Captain is killed with your involvement and you are a Mate, you move up the chain of command according to your Mate position (e.g. if you are First Mate, you become Captain). -Your objective can also be met by becoming the Captain of a different vessel. You need at least two Sailors under your command to be considered a Captain. -You may choose to stop being a Mutineer, and become a Sailor in your crew, at any point. If you do this, you will not have the chance to become a Mutineer again.

(edited)

19:37

Your role is Sailor. Help your Captain to complete the Crew Objective! Your initial Crew Objective is: **<objective>** As a Sailor, you can: -Choose a secondary Skill Role during Ship phase, which each grant special Skills -Move on and off your own ship using a !moveinstant

Your role is Sailor, as the Captain's First Mate! Help your Captain to complete the Crew Objective! Your initial Crew Objective is: **<objective>** As a First Mate, you can: -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board, if the Captain is not on board -Apply a boost each phase to either your own roll, or the Captain's -Inherit the Captaincy if the original Captain dies -Move on and off your own ship using a !moveinstant

Your role is Sailor, as the Captain's Second Mate! Help your Captain to complete the Crew Objective! Your initial Crew Objective is: **<objective>** As a Second Mate, you can: -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board, if the Captain and First Mate are not on board -Apply a boost each phase to either your own roll, or the Captain's -Inherit the Captaincy if the original Captain and First Mate die -Move on and off your own ship using a !moveinstant

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You have won your bid to become the captain of your crew! Your mates are **<player1>** (First Mate) and **<player2>** (Second Mate). Your initial Crew Objective is: **<obj>** As the captain, you can: -Change the Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game -Change each Mate 1 time during the game -Have the Crew Objective count for your Personal Objective (optional) -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board -Move on and off your own ship using a !moveinstant.

19:57

Your role is Prisoner. You will remain as such unless you are freed by another player. You do not have a Crew Objective. If you are freed, you will have a chance to choose a role again. You can only be freed after Phase 1 has begun. (edited)

Your bid for the Captaincy has failed. However, you have been chosen as First Mate. Will you serve as a Sailor under the command of your Captain, <player>, or seek to overthrow their rule or establish your own elsewhere? Send a GM "Sailor" or "Mutineer" to confirm your choice. You will remain First Mate regardless of what you choose.

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@Barbaros You're wrong

20:37

I sent the image to Ahmayk

20:37

it's from Umineko

20:38

What?

20:38

Oh sorry I

20:38

I didn't even consider that it could be mean sorry (edited)

No worries I understand, it was just my gut reaction (edited)

not at home rn but i’m trying to stay updated on the pirate moments

@King Harkinian can't see areas

20:56

I mean I can see earlog

Yeah permissions didn't propagate bc gameplay channel perms aren't synced with category perms (edited)

20:56

It sucks

20:56

All I can do is edit each channel manually

20:56

Which I might do later

Thanks. I would really appreciate that.

james pond and quagsire otp

so true

Should clowder get to pick different skill roles or should she only be able to pick one

hm

21:33

i guess that depends on how we wanna design em

21:33

i guess they could do different ones?

21:34

i assume theyll all have a bit of disadvantage

Yeah I'd imagine smth like that

21:34

Time to pull up the jessie/james role from rot for inspiration soon

and or weezer

True

updated the sheet a bit, hope its alright

21:37

just added crew role and objective columns

21:38

tho maybe we should also add a tab for the areas

21:38

starting to think a week may be a bit short for this design period lol

Eh

21:48

We've managed

We simply need to write 4.5 profiles and 1 area per day

Well we should def work on some efficient delegation

21:52

Someone should take the brunt of map work and creating the non ship areas

21:52

Someone should focus on the ships themselves

21:52

And we should divide characters somewhat

21:53

I imagine I'll reserve 2-3 hours per day to work on it

21:53

But let's also not kill ourselves by an unrealistic deadline

21:53

If we need to, we'll just take longer

yeye fair

Yep

22:01

I can do the brunt of map work, since it'll involve the tiled layout too

22:01

And let's all pick some characters that we know we can lead design on (or particularly want to work on), then divvy up the rest

yeah fair

Yeah there's def some I know better than others

22:02

I already got some pointers from winter

tbh theres none i know like super well lol but theres def some i can see myself being able to do without too many issues

For karl's features

22:03

I feel like we should feel free to ask players what they feel are prominent parts of their characters?

well aside from quagsire ig theres not much else to know about him

I can do Slime Girls, Inigo, and Steve probably

22:03

Akk has the 3 he's started on already (vriska, scarlett, demoman)

i was gonna say slime girls lol but i can prob do karl and the mario ones as well

I'm good especially on twig

Zel is the touhou guy, and is there anyone else you'd particularly like to take the lead on for their profile? @Byakuren Hijiri (edited)

and quag tho i imagine anyone could take him

Oh you can do slime girls if you want plas it's up to you

22:04

I didn't know you'd played omori

i actually havent lol i just have no issues with spoilers or anythin you'd prob do em better

22:05

oh have pin perms not been chaned?

22:05

changed

Now they have

22:07

I was doing em by request basically

22:07

Now all 4 are done (group 4 got them without asking, as a treat)

pf nice

i know i can at least help with quag, inigo, hoff, and noah

>dad >captures fish

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00:26

this could be the guy

LMAO

01:01

Also do we think SIB should get a skill role even if they stay a mutineer?

01:02

Since mutineer mates get to still be a mate

01:02

@Barbaros @💀 since the two of you are on rn

i mean... it is still a skill role

01:04

it just doesnt help them

01:04

unless u mean for mates

01:04

i honestly am not sure what mates get again

i'm not very well versed in the crew based roles yet

So

01:06

Basically

01:06

The way we resolved mutineers today

01:06

Mutineers who were assigned Mate got to be both a Mutineer and a Mate

01:06

"In addition to baseline Sailor abilities, Mates can: -Direct the movement of the Crew's ship while on board, if the Captain is not on board -Apply a boost each phase to either their own roll, or the Captain's -Inherit the Captaincy if the original Captain dies"

oh ok

Whereas Mutineers who weren't assigned Mate are only a Mutineer, they don't even have the ability to choose a Skill Role like a Sailor does (edited)

wait if a mutineer that isnt a mate kills the captain they dont get to be captain?

if a mutineer that isn't a mate kills the captain, it forces a vote

01:07

It would be a bit cheap if all you had to do was kill the captain to become the captain

i spose

The idea is you actually have to get enough support before launching a mutiny

thats fair

Unless you're already first mate in which case trollsmile

trollsmile

01:08

But what i'm asking is

lol yeah fair

Since mate mutineers get the abilities of both a mate and a mutineer

01:09

should non-mate mutineers get the abilities of both a sailor and a mutineer?

01:09

i.e. they would be able to still pick a Skill Role

mm

01:09

idk

01:09

idk if being a mate is much better than sailor roles in terms of boosts and you have to win mate so

01:09

if they could still get a sailor role i dont think thered be a point to trying to switch to sailor

That's a good point

01:10

So then yeah

01:10

I'll just tell SIB they can only get a skill role if they switch back to sailor

01:10

Though

01:11

The main reason that they can switch back to sailor isn't for mechanical benefits, it's for if they decide they don't want to be traitorous any more

01:12

Eh

i mean muskular moreso wants to go to another ship, which likely would be becoming a sailor then anyways

Yeah

01:12

Well he wants to captain another ship

all the stragglers may end up forming their own crew

Not if muskular and vriska both want to be captain

01:13

I think they'll probably have quite different agendas

01:13

I see muskular being more likely to join pier gang

idk i think if muskular joisn pier gang idk for sure if hed wanna take captain still

01:13

at least, based on the rp ive seen

Well regardless of what he'd do

01:14

I think it's prob fair to say the mutineer role is mainly intended for overthrowing

01:14

So anyone who really wants to be a mutineer won't care that they don't get a skill role

01:14

Thus

01:15

But mmmmm

01:21

I feel like

01:21

If we're letting mutineers pick a fake skill role that they learn what it does

01:22

That's 90% of the way to just letting them have a real skill role

01:22

So maybe we should just let them have one

may as well

01:23

they don't have to and probably won't use it but if they have to pretend to have a role that could be a dead giveaway

And it really only applies to SIB anyway

01:24

Since maia (and if he'd picked it, 404) would have just gotten their mate abilities

01:25

@Barbaros wdyt, are you still iffy on it?

01:26

I'm still a bit torn but I don't want someone to switch off mutineer because it'll be better, I want them to switch off because they're actually not wanting to be a mutineer

i suppose i just idk i feel like there should be a benefit to being sailor over mutineer if given the choice lol aside from just a different objective

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01:57

Like

01:57

This is fair

01:57

But also we don't know what the map will look like yet so it's hard to give an exact buff for finding a new ship

01:57

And getting ppl to follow you is solely interpersonal

01:57

Honestly

01:57

Once we know more about the map

01:58

Maybe we might be able to give some sort of buff

01:58

Especially because

01:58

What we went today aren't official profiles

fair yeah

01:59

i think we could maybe just buff the mutineer thing for that other trait a bit somehow

01:59

and leave it like that

Yeah I think we'll buff it when we send out profiles

02:01

When we actually know more about the map layout

02:01

And where/how other ships might be found

02:02

So for now I'll tell sib something to vaguely point that out

02:05

Gonna say this

02:05

"That's fair, though do keep in mind that with the map not yet designed, there are limitations on what we could actually give out right now for that aspect of the role. It may be possible to give a concrete buff to that aspect when you receive your full profile for Phase 1."

02:06

Do yall think this is good?

yeah i thin kso thats the gist of what we're thinkin

Ok sent

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02:52

Gonna say yes because it's a player comfort issue

02:53

Doesn't seem like there's a whole lot we can offer to remedy it

02:58

The only downside is it makes the teams more unbalanced but things are gonna get all wild and wacky with the teams anyway (probably almost immediately)

yeah i mean we could also maybe still have the other two like available in actions if they wanted? dunno

Oh yeah

03:04

It could be like a weezer type of thing where she plays the main one but the others are "there"

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aight fair nuff

04:05

also canada won today, epic

YEAH

04:08

I was just looking at the results and watching the highlights

04:08

5 gamedays to go

04:08

And big US game coming up next whew

yea woo

King Harkinian

Zel is the touhou guy, and is there anyone else you'd particularly like to take the lead on for their profile? @Byakuren Hijiri (edited)

I could also do Cortez, Noah, D.B. Cooper and Aura along with the Touhous.

I know the D.B.Cooper case pretty well (for a normal person) and I have an interest in theology.

06:07

For Cortez well I played TTYD like 8 years ago I guess

Coolio

14:11

I'm def down to help with DB Cooper and Noah as well

I can see what's left over lol

I'd prefer to help for Cortez, rather than lead.

I can prob work with cortez

Important Information:

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@💀 @Byakuren Hijiri you can now view this phase's gameplay channels

cool

should we maybe start thinking about extending this phase? theres still quite a lot remaining to do

17:07

for the players that is

Well I'll send a reminder at 12:30

17:13

And see if that spurs ppl into action

17:13

No harm in extending though yeah if we need to

ye sounds good

I think I'll send it at 1pm just so it doesn't bug people that are actively thinking about it now

17:36

I'll also put in the reminder message "If you'd like help with choosing a Personal Objective, feel free to message any of the GMs."

i mean id say choosing a personal objective or anything else related to this phase action lol

17:37

cuz some others may be a bit confused on what they can do

Yeah that's true

17:40

Oh btw

17:41

Winter dmed me about whether crews could have group dms for working on stuff like the flags

17:41

I said I'd talk to yall about it

17:41

I feel like that's fine as long as it's out of character?

hm

And specifically for the creative project

oh like

17:41

during the design phase?

Yeah

oh yea fair

I feel like that's probably better than like, leaving the game channels open

as long as theyre doin that stuff thats fair yeah

Because I really don't want to have to monitor game channels during design time

yeye

17:44

should we maybe still have a gm in said group chats?

17:44

just to be sure theyre not takin abt other stuff lol, tho i doubt they would

Yeah probably good idea

17:48

Ok I created the reminder message,

17:48

I might send it when I get back from my walk

17:48

Or you can if you want

aight

17:48

well ill do it if u dont do it by 1

It doesn't say how much longer is left because we should probably decide if it's being extended

17:48

Oh yeah I prob won't be back by 1 so yeah

17:48

Basically

17:48

They have all day to submit their stuff

17:48

Phase extension will just be like

17:49

How long they have to discuss everything

17:49

So if we think any teams are still figuring stuff out for design words, we should extend phase

17:49

Otherwise we can just end it whenever and let the stragglers submit their stuff whenever

yeah kinda hard to tell without looking over them carefully to see which people are sitting on tho

Ok I should be back in 15 mins or so

Let's do the group DMs like mafia dms

18:00

Keep a gm in there just to have an eye on things

yeah

18:00

anyways shall i remind now?

Sure yea

i gotta say its been p fun that a lot of the mates have been pretty musically-focused lol fitting for what theyre doing here

I've been at my dad's for the past few hours

18:06

Will be home before 9 to read up

18:06

Ah I mean

18:07

Before 2pm est

fair nuff we'll prob extend it anyways so

In that case I'll walk home instead of taking the tram

18:22

Be on my pc a bit later than 9

18:23

I can vc at any point nonetheless

Ok I'm jumping in vc now

18:24

Got a couple things to bring up

Aite

dunno if i can vc today, sorry yall prob just for todya tho

18:25

anyways i added a 3rd tab and have been updating it, in case u havent seen

18:25

on the sheet

Yeah I saw that it's great, thanks!

ty

18:34

anyways i see group 3 has firmly taken the mantle of "The beasts...2"

@Barbaros So we're prob gonna dm individual people to see if they'd be available to participate in a slightly extended phase (to determine their words), or if not

aight

18:37

which individual ppl tho?

lem, tay, yhen, cinn, and koo (assuming that lou, waffles, sib, and 404 are working on their submissions)

18:42

I can take lem and tay

18:42

Maybe yhen

18:42

I'm assuming you'll dm cinn

18:42

And pop will dm koo

so what exactly are we dming?

Asking if they'll be available in the next 1-2 hours to finalize ship design with their crew, or if they won't be available until later and thus would have to decide in private

18:45

Here's sor's submission (bot wasn't working for em for some reason):

Design Words: <Strongroom> (<Below>), <Clawshot> (<Above>) Personal Objective: <Collect at least three expensive items, or collect a large amount of money> Skill Role: <Gunner>

aight

18:48

also it wasnt? hm

18:49

did they recieve any sort of error message?

Apparently not

18:52

It might have been a sporadic issue earlier

18:52

That's resolved now

aight

i think we're missing exactly one action from each crew lmao

19:11

oh wait i missed aura earlier shit

19:14

ok i also missed minamitsu

19:14

so its just twig and james pond

19:14

who didnt do an action phase crew either lol

19:14

also idk how to do this but its a valid idea

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The design plans have been submitted, and the construction crew will now begin their work. It should take about one week for your ship to be ready. Until then, sit back and enjoy port life, for the voyage ahead will be long. Make sure you pack lots of rum. See you then, mighty crew of ***The Ghost King***!

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Barbaros

also idk how to do this but its a valid idea

Yes actually ahmayk is planning to implement a feature that does this!

19:15

Alternately, we can do it with spying

aight nic

20:13

https://youtu.be/c2zurZig4L8?t=43

UnionSquareMusic

Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Fanfare For The Common Man

gay gay homosexual gay

no you

yes

@ Seafarer Ship phase has now officially concluded!

Please bear with us as we begin design work on your character profiles and the game world. We hope to begin Phase 1 in about a week! If any of you would like to continue workshopping your crew flags or base area images during the break, feel free to create an Out-Of-Character group DM with your crew, as long as you invite at least one of the GMs. Otherwise, enjoy the break, and we hope you enjoyed the pregame process! (edited)

i'd say maybe "as long as you invite at least one of the GMs" but yea

20:34

So there are 2 group dms

21:06

One for humphrey crew one for ghost ship crew

21:06

I can add one of the two of you to the ghost ship one

21:06

I was gonna add plas bc pop's in the humphrey one but I just wanted to be transparent about both existing

yeah sounds good

ah oke

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Quagsire (Superb)

oh shit

21:37

i dont know if scarlett ever submitted a personal objective

She didn't lol

21:41

We'll have to get one from liv

for future should we put ship roles at the top of character profiles?

Hmm

21:55

Name of the role yeah probably

21:55

Role ability either as the first or last idk which

21:55

Probably last

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David Hasselhoff (Cerbera)

Taking all the objectives into account these are the npc roles we'll need: -Davy Jones' Locker person, likely Davy Jones himself -SpongeBob -Koeia's captor -Bec Trede's dad (maybe make the same person as captor) -Some sort of "powerful enemy" for Edwin to defeat -Byakuren

22:35

also cortez wants to obtain the skull gem, which could be guarded by vaas or john mcafee

Interestingly, Patchy's objective is all about him self-inserting as spongebob

22:43

But it'd be hard to make cerb like, 'aware' of that

22:44

In a way that would let her use Patchy for her objective

ah hmm

22:45

that could alleviate the need to actually have da bob in the game

Ahmayk fixed the newline bug btw

23:19

Also

23:19

He suggested this

23:19

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23:20

pinned npc list for future ref

edwins at least is already covered by me lol

King Harkinian

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Do we want to do this, or should we just save profile update submissions for right before we advance to phase 1?

23:22

True yeah

23:22

edwin's could be covered by a bunch

23:22

-you -godmode vriska -byakuren if she gets rezzed (I don't think she's really an 'enemy' but she's someone powerful who can be fought) -davy jones or a variety of other potential npcs -the kraken if we include it

oh i was never invited to the other group dm i dont think

23:28

oh wait right

23:28

forgot u had to be friends lol

sorry I had a harsh day, I'll be helping with design tommorow (edited)

its np

23:35

but uh yeah @King Harkinian u can invite me to the group dm now i think

Ok cool

Hmm @Undyne if we're gonna have a raucous pirate town and a pristine colonial town, could bec trede's dad be like the governor/mayor of the colonial town? Because of course it's much more satisfying to get revenge on someone who's moved up in the world since they wronged you

01:25

The question is whether we want her to be conflicted about the revenge or not, if we do then maybe we could make the dad someone more sympathetic (edited)

That's narratively satisfying yeah

Yeah I think that works for me

01:26

Considering how the dad is described in the song I don't think we really need to make it a 'hmm should you really take revenge on this guy' conflict

01:29

-Davy Jones' Locker person, likely Davy Jones himself --> This can be any of us if it's Davy Jones -SpongeBob -->This may not need to be anyone - it could just be a spongebob toy, or something representing spongebob, or patchy himself -Koeia's captor --> This needs to be someone -Bec Trede's dad (maybe make the same person as captor) --> Also needs to be someone, probably some bigshot in colonial town -Some sort of "powerful enemy" for Edwin to defeat --> Many options, doesn't need to be anyone in particular -Byakuren --> This will be zel on an alt whenever byakuren does get rezzed

01:30

So bare minimum we need 2 NPCs (if we don't count byakuren since that's only a conditional later-on NPC)

01:30

One for the davy jones locker role, one for being the revenge victim

01:30

But we could also expand that into 3 NPCs if we don't want the revenges to conflict with each other

01:31

We know plas will be barbaros, at least on his main, and that probably doesn't fit with being koeia's captor or bec's dad

01:31

So

01:32

Between me, pop, akk, and zel we should find a way to address these

01:33

Could Laffite count for any of the revenge objectives? Maybe he's the one who captured koeia and this is the way he gets killed?

01:33

Also, we probably need at least one NPC to be in charge of the 'pirates' nerve center' or whatever for the humphrey team objective

01:34

That could be any non-davy jones pirate NPC

01:34

That could also be laffite if we don't use him as koeia's captor (edited)

Alright

01:37

I feel like either laffite or bec's dad could be the captors

01:37

Especially the colonial slaver would be an easy villain

01:38

I was thinking of there possibly being a parrot/bird type npc that could fly between ships freely and deliver messages etc?

I mean there is probably going to be a bird in this game I dont think it talks and idk if its rlly used to be flown around or not yet but

Oh wait doesnt patchy have a parrot too lol

02:10

Oh yeah and it does deliver messages

Who would be a good character for the colonial assholish guy

Also here's a mockup of an example map design using the sample outline from the Google Doc (edited)

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Valid

02:40

Did we agree on how many areas for the big land section? 2? Or 3

We haven't agreed on anything yet this ain't even a final map

02:43

But

02:43

Here's a mockup of potential areas if we used this design

Fair It is promising lookin tho

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What does it mean by moveinstant with the small island?

Huh I guess nothing because you can moveinstant off your ship to any area lmao

02:50

But

02:50

The idea I meant to communicate is that it's only accessible from that tile specifically

02:50

Rather than any of the ones adjacent to it

ah yeah that makes sense

02:53

and i agree w it

And starting locations could be like this or smth

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03:19

Note that each ship would be able to move 2 tiles per turn

So the middle ship could move to like 4 different areas from that one spot?

03:23

They have every major land location 2 tiles away

well theres the matter of the first group who kinda wanted to be a central trade center thing idk how much they really wanted to move exactly but

03:28

hm when i think about it they probably also maybe shouldnt get moveinstant stuff like the rest given theyre airborne

03:28

maybe we add another positive to counteract that

Well idk if they should lose the moveinstant stuff, IMO that's one of the key factors keeping the ship system from becoming a huge hassle

03:32

Their positive/negative for being an airship should be smth different

03:32

like

03:33

positive: the ship can't be attacked from underwater (this protects them from murasa and koeia)

03:33

negative: if the ship falls below half health, it's stuck in one place until the flight engine can be repaired

thats cool tho that negative arguably isnt any better than losing moveinstants depending on where it happens lol

Sort of, though "no moveinstants" is a detriment all game, whereas "you get stuck if you're damaged" is something they have some control over and might be avoided (edited)

03:39

So it just adds to their "try to avoid conflict" strategy, which IMO enhances the gameplay for them

03:39

Now there are stakes

03:39

It's a bit like wonder guard

03:39

Harder to hit, but if they can get hit, it's way worse

thats fair

03:40

ig iwas thinkin abt it more like

03:40

they had to like land their ship which would take a bit more time

03:41

i thought about maybe make it limit their actual moving in one turn but i feel like the fact theyre flying kinda would make them more mobile lol so itd prob cancel out anyways

Yeah and tbh I don't want to bring anyone down to 1 tile of movement unless they're SUPER hampered

03:49

Because that makes it super hard to get anywhere

yeah true

anyways on the music topic in objective hub a bit lol i really like all the music choices everyones put in theyre super varied and all really good lol I made a private playlist of all of em and have listened through and its p great

Oh nice yeah

04:07

I still gotta look over all the submissions

04:07

Both for music and everything else lmao

yeah fair

04:09

i dont have any images admittedly

04:09

a bit harder to sort through when they arent explicitly submitted by anyone

04:09

but ppl are workin on that rn still anyways

True

04:15

I love what you've done with pg3 of the sheet btw

04:15

It's lookin great

ty!

Alternative to the Tony Stark for Stuff.

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09:19

Stuffed Crust.

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Molly (Clowder)

Sadly i dont think anyone actually submitted the word stuff

hm?

One of the crews was discussing submitting "stuff" as a word

15:49

outsidemyhouse

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Ianis (Brine)

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Miss Bec Trede (pizzie)

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May (Waffles)

sheesh that's a lot of threads

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James Pond (Yhenestik)

So I'd like to know first, what kinds of abilities do you want in this games?

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Maerk (Meepster)

More on the lowkey side, balanced side or gamebreaking side?

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Edwin (lem)

I ahould prob repost this from quag

16:13

"So in this game players will prob have 3 main things, with 2 things being unique, and the 3rd thing being their skill role or captain/mate/mutineer stuff"

is that all of them

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Inigo Montoya (Ahmayk)

Nope lmfao

Would it be useful to assign character design directors?

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Muskular (SIB)

In what sense?

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Twig (SpectaKoo)

Someone who'd be in charge of designing the character's abilities.

16:16

More so than other people

16:16

Doesn't mean other people can't come and help though

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Patchy (squazz)

For example Plas you could be idk May's lead designer

I mean itd prob be a waste of time to decide that now for each of them given theres 33 and a week lol Id say just. We work on ones we have more faith in our skills in first and then work our way down

16:17

Other ppl can pitch in if they want

I mean the problem with threads is that I'm fearing that my thoughts will get isolated but

16:18

eh probably unfounded fear

Yea just post ur ideas and we'll all collab

Byakuren Hijiri

More on the lowkey side, balanced side or gamebreaking side?

balanced for sure

I see so

16:19

Moonlit type abilities then?

16:19

Not talking about moves

i mean i couldnt say lol

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16:19

ill pin this tho

When I say lowkey I meant something like DYAD where the abilities really aren't that powerful

16:19

also yeah thanks that's useful

they dont all have to follow this exact format but this is the general thing we're going off i think

And for me gamebreaking would be rotr2 stuff

also we have 31 threads so 2 more?

(crowritten is beyond gamebreaking lol)

oh wait

16:20

vriska and demoman are currently archived

16:20

so thats all of em

Byakuren Hijiri

(crowritten is beyond gamebreaking lol)

pff fair iwas gonna say

right so mmm

16:21

what to do

16:21

I think I'll finish reading the phases

16:21

I've only read cortez crew so far

fair

16:21

a good idea would be to check the spreadsheet for the objectives and then maybe just paste them into the thread first off

16:21

objectives are on tab 2 rn

I'm feeling a bit unmotivated rn

thas fine

16:22

we got the week

like the kind of umotivation that comes up on me and is like

16:22

"yeah you ain't doin nothing today" (edited)

16:22

hate when that happens

16:22

The human brain is such a piece of shit

16:23

You know that feeling when it feels like your eyes get a little blurry (but in reality nothing happens) and your attention span drops to basically 0?

16:23

Or is that just a me thing (edited)

happens to me idk how natural of a thing it rlly is tho

Time to fry my brain with coffee

16:29

so I can think clearly

tbh the main thing about this thats tough always for me is damage/health balancing

thinking sometimes about the possibility that humphrey's dream may be entirely abandoned in the game lol

today is a bit busy for me with the movie night and all

16:56

tomorrow I'll be free-er around the midday to go through some character ideas

16:56

I'll also toss around my concepts for map layouts

16:57

Because personally I'm not quite convinced by the travel logistics of the initial layout

16:57

I want to try to approach it from a game-length direction and how long it would take to complete certain routes

Lookout: Gets a % bonus to spying Surgeon: Can heal 1 heart to another player on home ship, 0.5 otherwise Boatswain: Can fix the ship and use onboard weapons with a big bonus Cook: Can produce carryable food items with various effects. Midshipman: Has a small bonus to all actions while aboard the ship (this is the default skill role if no role is chosen)

17:00

gonna put this here

17:00

cuz we're gonna have to be using these a lot

Undyne

I want to try to approach it from a game-length direction and how long it would take to complete certain routes

ok yeah this is exactly what I think the current proposed layout doesn't accomplish, so yeah it'll be great if you can throw some of your own thoughts and concepts out there (edited)

The good thing is we can just write copepasteable descriptions of each ship skill

17:01

I mean copypasteable

Yeah

17:01

With the exception of the handful of custom ones like Mechanic and Scientist

17:01

But those will be p easy

17:01

BTW

17:01

Gunner is Boatswain

17:01

I just renamed it

Bosun......

Bosun Higgs

flashbacks to trying to figure out who the fuck that frenchman is

Hahaha

I also want to start conceptualizing the individual areas more tomorrow

tbh we can probably maange with more areas now too

I have the most inspiration for the game world

given how many people we have

(in terms of the parts of game design)

17:04

I just wonder if a hexagon-tile based map isn't the best way to go about this? I feel like it'd be more fruitful to create not a tile based map, but a more organic map where sea routes are marked

17:04

and one sea route can be traversed in one rollover

17:05

Essentially, an elaborate version of a regular objective map

17:05

(one sea route would be one connection)

mm

17:06

i kinda like the idea but i do think we want to let them be able to choose how to traverse the place more and possible actual times of being at sea

17:06

so we can have at-sea events

Well that would be essentially substituted with having some sea routes that take 2 phases to traverse

i do kinda like the sea routes idea tho in a bit

where one phase has to be spent in open sea

at least we prob could use making the map a bit bigger than it is rn

17:07

cuz u can kinda get almost anywhere rn anyways

essentially it would IMO facilitate an almost identical gameplay loop

17:07

without having to restrict the map super condensedly to have key locations be in adjacent tiles

17:07

let me do a mock up real quick

17:11

like this

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17:11

obviously a shit sketch but you get the gist

17:12

number meaning how quick the travel is (2 meaning 2 phases, one phase spent in open sea, actually that makes no sense oh well)

17:13

I do understand that a tile based map system does make it feel more adventurous and zelda wind waker-y

17:13

as opposed to a more traditional objective game

17:13

Personally I just like to streamline whenever possible to not make mechanics a learning curve (edited)

I guess the thing with that is mainly that there's a super low possibility of any at-sea engagements during those occasional open-sea phases

17:19

Like

17:20

Unless we say that any ship docked at one of the endpoint locations can 'see' that ship that's en route and engage with it

17:21

IMO, a tile-based map is not that much less intuitive than this

17:22

The only hangup is the whole adjacency thing

Yeah it's plenty intuitive as a concept it just requires very dense layouts

17:23

And TBH if you aim to have open-sea engagements, you'll aim to have plenty of open-sea travel

17:23

And that's something we kind of thought to minimize because it's boring and takes an entire real life day

17:24

It's a tradeoff either way

i mean i think that really depends on how much we can have them focus on during those phases

What I mean is that I want to minimize open-sea travel but if it does happen, there should be a chance of interesting things happening

also possibly having other ships in the vicinity could help

Yeah that's kinda what I'm trying to say

17:25

Say if there's like a chase happening too

17:25

A tiled map gives both sides more options, especially if there are speed modifiers

King Harkinian

What I mean is that I want to minimize open-sea travel but if it does happen, there should be a chance of interesting things happening

TBH the sea routes would actuall facilitate that pretty well

17:25

because it's so focused

17:26

if two crews are at open sea at the same time it's likely they'll be in the same area

Hmm possibly yeah

17:31

You know I just realized

17:31

We don't have to do one or the other

17:31

We could do both

17:31

Tiled map but with suggested routes across it that simplify movement

17:33

They could even be called "charted routes" or "safe routes" or something, to imply that going off course could be a risk (which is where we could bring in storms and the kraken)

17:33

I think that could combine the flexibility of the tiled map, and the simplicity of the sea routes

You know what

17:34

I like that

17:34

because it presents a very concrete opportunity to find out a hidden area

17:34

that has no charted route to

Oh snap yeah

and you have to do manual tile travel

yeah true

which amplifies the feeling of finding hidden treasures

17:34

it's really the sense of adventure we should harbor here

17:34

no pun intended

lol yea

17:35

i think we should have some sort of dual spying system based on ship vicinity too

Yep

like if 2 ships are like say 1-2 spaces away from each other

I presented that in a vc yesterday

17:36

if two ships are close you can have incomplete spy connections between the decks

17:36

and the closer they are the better the spy connection is

yeah

so if it's far away it's like

17:36

hey c-- ou g ys h ar me

17:36

and if it's close by it's like

17:36

hey can you guys hear me also YARRR

and maybe ships can have weapons that can hit from certain distances but if you want to actually get on someone elses ship you have to either get closer or have some creative action or i guess you can also be the airship of one of the crews lol and that has its own thing cuz its above

Yep

17:39

Here were the ideas I'd had for that

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nic

I think maybe it makes sense if like

are ships gonna have hidden health as well?

17:39

i imagine itd be pretty high, but

Adjacent tiles: -limited spy connection to the other ship -can move onto the other ship as a full movement Same tile: -full spy connection to the other ship -can move onto the other ship as an !instantmove MAYBE

Barbaros

i imagine itd be pretty high, but

Yeah I was thinking they'd have some health

17:40

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17:40

Could be more than 3 it'd just mean weapons would do more damage

17:40

Everything would be relative

well yeah

17:41

maybe the same as this but w/ 4 hearts tho lol

17:41

or somethin like that

17:41

idk i think it should be pretty hard to actually destroy a ship

17:42

cuz theyre pretty significant to the players and such

Oh yeah for sure

tbh id be tempted to say something around like 10 at base, maybe a bit more or less depending on how the ship was built and then weapons would do some amount of hearts of damage as opposed to fractions would also maybe make it more possible for ppl to try stuff that barely works

17:44

idk if we'd share the exact ship health with the players or not tho

I think players should know something

TBH

So they know if their ship is weakened or not

if destroying ships is super hard

17:45

then players would feel a bit scuffed to have sent offensive words imo

King Harkinian

So they know if their ship is weakened or not

well yeah def that at least

Combat should be viable

oh no yeah its viable

17:45

but itd take a lot thoi was also moreso thinking

17:45

if damage is dealt

17:45

it could cause disadvantages first before actual destruction

Yeah

maybe we could have like health thresholds for weaknesses we'd add

17:46

and theyd have to heal it to make it better

I think we can give ships high health so they FEEL beefy, but the ships weapons would also be beefy

yeah exactly

And so you can't attack a ship with a sword and take out 1/3 of its health

lol yeah

But yeah

17:46

Weaknesses at low health is what I was thinking too

i mean i think everything that isnt actually meant for damaging ships should do half health to them still at least but idk i feel like 10 hearts as a base feels right tho

I think under a certain amount of health a ship's speed could be reduced (but it'd have to a fairly close-to-death threshold because not being able to get around would suck) (edited)

yeah

17:47

i mean given theres a full crew on a ship often

17:47

we could make it so people could take an action to repair the ship and also move afterwards

Yeah

King Harkinian

I think we can give ships high health so they FEEL beefy, but the ships weapons would also be beefy

this sounds like a good approach

17:51

ship weapons deal about proportional damage to ships as player weapons to players (edited)

nah i disagree with that lol (edited)

17:52

player weapons can do as much as nearly half of a players health

Well

17:53

usually a regular swing does 1/3 of a player hp

yeah i think thats a bit much tho

17:54

i think like 3/10 should be the most a weapon could do imo

17:54

at least within reason maybe if a crew spent like several phases creating a bomb or something we could extend that lol but

here's a mockup I made of a map that would combine the tile layout and the charted paths

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Light green tiles are main areas, that is to say, the major ones

13:50

dark green tiles are inbetween areas that you wouldn't go to unless you movespecialed into that specific tile

13:50

red lines are the charted paths (regular move actions)

13:51

Purple tiles are "hidden" areas that would need some special maps to see, and require manual movement across tiles as illustrated by the dots (open sea on the top, dense jungle maybe? on the bottom) (edited)

13:52

This could be bigger maybe? But I wanted to streamline it to be that each tile is relevant

13:53

Open sea tiles could have something relevant too

Oh if you guys want a map

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I could make one

16:16

actually topography

16:19

here's the kind of stuff I've done in the past

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that looks cool

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EXTERNAL THINGS WE NEED TO MAKE OBJECTIVES POSSIBLE -hidden treasure, shipwreck or ruins underwater (quagsire) -"Spongebob" (Hasselhoff) -A place marked by X on a map (Ianis) -Bec Trede's dad -A way to turn the whole world into owlboy AKA floating landmasses (Twig) -Expensive items, money (Orla) -Byakuren Hijiri and fragments of the flying storehouse (Minamitsu (could Hijiri be sealed in davy jones' locker?)) -mr dolphin (May) -Skull Gem (cortez) -Alcohol and explosives (Demo) -Buried treasure (steve) -Balloons (monkey) -A way to sever karl's ties to the Castle (karl) -a hyacinth, candle lit by a wind-wrought flame, rainwater from a storm, horse's hair (Aura) -Skateboard (Mononobe) -Scientific discovery (entrapta (tools to create stuff?)) -A powerful enemy (edwin)

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Pinned a message.

16:27

compiled all of the objectives into this

ty

16:28

i think we can combine quag and orla'ssomewhat

16:29

maybe even with cortez, depends on if we want one central thing for a lot of ppl to focus on or not

quag, orla, cortez, steve, edwin could all be combined into a hidden treasure guarded by a monster (edited)

oh yeah steve too

16:30

i kinda think edwins already covered by quite a lot but we could

I had a dream where there was an undersea area and then an even deeper ocean floor area, and quagsire's dive ability gave him the ability to bypass the undersea area and reach the ocean floor area in one turn

16:37

This is completely unusable and not even part of what I was ever wanting to do

16:37

But

16:37

I just wanted to mention it because it's insane that I had a dream about objective game design

amazing tbh lol

that's great

fun fact: anniversary was the 19th objective game, counting the double troubles as one game makes this one the 39th

they weren't one game

19:32

so this is numba 40 baybee

i mean i sorta see it as two parts of one but its debatable

two interlinked but unique games

19:34

plus they're marked separately on the sheet

19:34

and were separate for the awards

well yeah

19:36

i suppose it'd be somewhat disrespectful to the gms to treat em as the same thing but i def had trouble trying to pick between them in the voting cuz i liked both pretty equally too

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~~tho i mostly made that caveat so my fact looked better cuz it was so close to 20/40~~

the threads are archiving oooohhhhh

oooohhhhh

floshed

so what do you think about the map concept spaceman

Cool but I don't get the reasoning for the dark green areas (edited)

20:17

Why not just have clumps of land tiles represent an area, instead of having one land tile per area then a bunch of no-mans-land ones in between (edited)

20:18

I'm just thinking because we don't want to have to create too many areas on the fly

20:18

There should be a handful of land areas that, if they're next to each other, work like normal objective areas

20:21

Were the dark green areas a conscious change that were intended to add something interesting?

the idea with the dark green areas is that they add the same possibility to go off road as on the sea (edited)

20:30

if you don't want to just take the charted path

Well the difference there is that if you go offcourse on the sea, you're still just on your ship, and we only need to create an additional area if someone goes off of the ship

20:32

Whereas if you have this on land, we have to create a unique area for every land tile

20:33

IDK personally I just wasn't envisioning the tile-based navigation carrying over to land

That's fair

20:33

I was just thinking of like hiding a hidden mesoamerican inspired temple in a non charter land tile

We still could

20:34

But maybe it could be only accessible by ship, or the land area connection to it only opens with a certain item or map (edited)

but if it's the only non charter tile and everything else is clumped together, it's not much to guess there's a secret there

Well it all depends on what we show on the map and how we structure it

20:40

I just had a really interesting idea

20:41

The map they get at the beginning could have like, a section burned out or smth

20:42

So they'd know something's there but they can't access it unless they find a map fragment that has it

20:43

That, or one of the secret land tiles could be unmarked and inland

20:43

so they couldn't access it by ship, and it might blend in with some of the other tiles around it so they wouldn't immediately know there's a secret there

possibly

@Barbaros LET'S GOOO

WE DID IT BOYSSSS

Such a huge dub

We totally need to call crew 3's area "clubcumming"

Aight I'm caught up

22:33

at once

Nice

I think I have too much ATLAS and Moonlit 2 brainworms

22:49

I need to host these for real, or else I'll have these on my mind until I'm 95 LOL

22:49

>hears cool song "yooo this needs to be used for an area in ATLAS/Moonlit 2!!!!!"

should we post the flag/area images submitted in the group chats here maybe

Probably yeah

Alright this is the final version

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baller

I only had to buy him outer wilds for this

14:28

wait nvm this might not be the final version

Undyne

I only had to buy him outer wilds for this

this reminds me of when I commissioned Serra for a vgmgg and I gave her a 10 euro steam card LOL

14:46

doubt you'll be reading this but hi Serra!

We were thinking of doing a design VC today going through the latest pinned post and other general aspects of the game

What time would you want to do it at?

I'm making food now so maybe in an hour or two

Works 4 me

have a nasty headache right now despite taking a paracetamol might sit it out but gonna rest for a bit nonetheless

Ok no prob if we can't call today

21:12

I'm still workin anyway

yeah sorry I've got to just go to sleep soon and get some rest

Cool no worries, hope you're feeling better tomorrow!

Gyms opening today so I'm down to design call in around 2 hours when I hit the first leg day of the year

I think that would work

Ok I gotta go shopping tho so I can either call asap, or in like 30 minutes

30 minutes is good

17:50

ping me when you can

@Undyne

18:23

Jumping in chat now

18:23

Also gonna make lunch

Undyne

EXTERNAL THINGS WE NEED TO MAKE OBJECTIVES POSSIBLE -hidden treasure, shipwreck or ruins underwater (quagsire) -"Spongebob" (Hasselhoff) -A place marked by X on a map (Ianis) -Bec Trede's dad -A way to turn the whole world into owlboy AKA floating landmasses (Twig) -Expensive items, money (Orla) -Byakuren Hijiri and fragments of the flying storehouse (Minamitsu (could Hijiri be sealed in davy jones' locker?)) -mr dolphin (May) -Skull Gem (cortez) -Alcohol and explosives (Demo) -Buried treasure (steve) -Balloons (monkey) -A way to sever karl's ties to the Castle (karl) -a hyacinth, candle lit by a wind-wrought flame, rainwater from a storm, horse's hair (Aura) -Skateboard (Mononobe) -Scientific discovery (entrapta (tools to create stuff?)) -A powerful enemy (edwin)

Additional things for team objectives: -"Pirate's Nerve Center" -Encino -Koeia's captor(s) (edited)

@Barbaros @Byakuren Hijiri @💀 design vc?

in a few

Ideas so far: -2 cities/towns opposite each other: fancy colonial town and rough pirate town -'Pirates' Nerve Center' is a bar or speakeasy in the pirate town -2 hidden areas: one underwater (e.g. sunken city or shipwreck), one on land (e.g. ancient temple) -encino could be either one

-'nerve center' bar is a moveinstant subarea that's only accessible if granted access -Laffite could be the manager of it and the one who players have to prove their piratehood to

-slamongflobo could be either patchy, if he commits to the role, or a normal sea sponge that washed up somewhere

AW HELL NAW

-john mcafee can lease the kraken as a boss fight to stall for time

NPC roster thoughts Plasman: -Wants to play: Barbaros, willing to play 1 other -Probably will play: Barbaros (travelling npc/lategame antagonist) Pop: -Wants to play: Undyne -Probably will play: Undyne (unknown role) Zel: -Wants to play: Jean Laffite, Byakuren -Probably will play: Jean Laffite (manager of pirate hideout), Byakuren (lategame npc) Akkrillic: -Wants to play: John McAfee, willing to play 1 other -Probably will play: John McAfee (bec trede's dad, koeia's captor, colonial town governor) Spaceman: -Wants to play: One of Hondo, Klaes Ashford, Bayle Domon, but could also do someone else -Probably will play: Unknown (edited)

So that just leaves davy jones locker person

19:35

But that could be anyone

mmm

19:35

how do we get laffite to die

Well he doesn't 100% have to

19:35

But

19:36

There's a small chance we could use him as koeia's captor instead of john mcafee

19:36

It's just harder to justify

McAfee fits more as the runner of a shady place

19:37

though

19:37

Laffite too

19:37

He's a smuggler

19:37

They could be in a business relationship tbh

19:38

That's a thing both of them are known for

19:38

And they can also serve as exposition characters for how people got teleported to the golden age

19:38

like

19:38

time travelled

an idea we had was that mcafee was the democratically elected leader of the unnamed pirate game chain of islands and then became an absolute ruler

It does 100% make sense for mcafee and laffite to be in league somewhat

so it makes sense that they'd be in each other's pockets

Laffite providing smuggled goods to Mcafee's colonial town in exchange for McAfee ensuring Laffite's pirate town's business goes on unimpeded (edited)

Well, Laffite actually led a pseudo-country of smugglers irl too

19:41

And he led a colony in the carribean at one point

Then it's basically perfect lmao

19:41

laffite is in charge of the pirate town, mcafee is in charge of the colonial town, and they have a business agreement of mutual benefit

Port weicestershire

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barataria_Bay

Barataria Bay (French: Baie de Barataria), also Barrataria Bay, is a bay of the Gulf of Mexico, about 15 miles (24 km) long and 12 miles (19 km) wide, in southeastern Louisiana, in Jefferson Parish and Plaquemines Parish, United States. It is separated from the gulf by two barrier islands, Grand Isle and Grand Terre.The bay takes its name from t...

19:42

They were known as the Baratarians

19:43

Also, Laffite was describe as knowing French and English, and also having at least working knowledge of Spanish

19:43

And that describes me perfectly

19:44

That's how I'd describe my language abilities rn

King Harkinian

laffite is in charge of the pirate town, mcafee is in charge of the colonial town, and they have a business agreement of mutual benefit

How about "Little Belize" and "Île Baratarie/Isla Barataria"

LOL

19:46

LITTLE BELIZE

good name

naming it after barataria could be good but here are some other options

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what is this

Examples of historical pirate havens

19:47

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirate_haven

Pirate havens are ports or harbors that are a safe place for pirates to repair their vessels, resupply, recruit, spend their plunder, avoid capture, and/or lie in wait for merchant ships to pass by. The areas have governments that are unable or unwilling to enforce maritime laws. This creates favorable conditions for piracy. These havens were of...

It's crazy laffite was the last one

Bay de Belizia or Belitia or somethin idk

THE GHOST KING https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936723954104680478/936728527951233054/ghostShip2.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936723954104680478/937079128111341589/1c362c691dad2a8eabbb4de12f58fb11.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936723954104680478/937536609555988561/image0.jpg

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THE DISCO MONKEY NIGHT RIDER TEMPEST + TRANS RIGHTS + RATIO https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936357406567460914/936694676046639114/f108a6a82f582be6fa5ae0c4b3f02134.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936357406567460914/936694676822589490/IMG_4147.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936357406567460914/936694677229416478/unknown.png

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HOW

oh yeah i should post my idea here for zel and stuff potentially having all the islands and stuff held up a bit above the water by technology from an ancient civilization (tying into the semi-hidden underwater area) and it could be used to lift everything in the gameboard up more by Twig Also could be used to accomplish Entrapta's objective as that group may be looking to go there as they have quagsire and orla already

HUMPHREY'S DREAM https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936632174986285146/938166298146373682/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/936632174986285146/938168055652032512/chrome_wd2A9MWxSB.png [I think the flag is still a WIP but yea]

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Ok I'm gonna try and actually write some profile mockups

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so how exactly did we want the ships to work? like u can only post in the part ur in but can always view the other? or can u just view both after rollover

The former

aight

14:55

and is it just that and the moveinstant-with-item-only thing? (edited)

Yeah those are the two things

oke

14:56

sounds good

Nice

oh act i guess only the ppl with the item should be able to do the canview thing as well

hmm possibly

15:06

that would probably be wise yeah actually

15:06

enhances the advantage people have on their own ship

think it makes sense given the ones without it cant really be in both at once

Yeah

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I should probably be able to start designing seriously mmmm

16:04

Saturday

16:04

When is game scheduled to start @King Harkinian ?

Whenever we have everything ready

16:08

lol

16:08

Though we were hoping to start around this weekend so, maybe you can help us crunch out the final touches on Saturday/Sunday assuming we're not done by then (edited)

16:12

(We probably won't be done by then)

King Harkinian

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understandable

Should we do some rebalancing then?

17:25

if Knight does actually leave, that is.

in what sense?

17:26

i think knight is already in the biggest group

Probably won't need to change much

I'm asking.

17:26

I'm not saying that we should.

i mean we were also kinda answering

The way you replied to me felt like you thought I was saying we should

17:28

At least I interpreted it that way I guess

does it matter lol

Knight is in an 8-person groups so zel's question is valid

17:37

The teams would be 7-7-9-9 if he left

17:37

That said

17:37

The teams will probably balance themselves

17:37

Considering muskular wants to leave his crew

17:37

And ceres might dip from the airship if he can't pull off any power moves

ah

17:38

well yeah i doubt its an issue anyways tbh

17:38

and well if it was we'd be shit outta luck anyways

17:38

because the existing 7 group is already a thing lol

I don't think it's such an exact science

17:39

it's not like the teams will be in mathematics competitions where they carefully calculate damage outputs

17:39

likely there will be no battles without provocation

well i never rlly thought abt stuff like that but its not a huge issue i feel like the main thing with balancing the teams was the actual captain voting and such

Yeah

17:40

Once the game starts things will just happen

17:41

If a crew fights another crew odds are they'll try to fight with their ships, and the ships will be balanced

By the way, just announcing, I'll be away at a friend's house on saturday

18:37

so I won't be around to rollover or anything

hard prediction we will not start on saturday lol

either sunday or monday at the earliest prob

BROOO NEW SAGA HAS PIRATES FUCK YEAH

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PIRATEMODE

So I've tried doing a bit of work so far on profiles for molly, orla, maerk, db cooper, inigo, steve, terraria pirate, sea hawk, edwin, carvallain, patchy, and monkey Akk has started on profiles/discussion for scarlett, demoman, vriska, the hoff, and quagsire, and will help with inigo and noah Zel will be leading the two touhous and has offered to lead for aura and noah and help with cortez and db cooper Pop is leading twig and ianis at least Plas is leading cortez and can also do muskular and possibly karl That leaves may, ceres, james pond, koeia, entrapta, bec trede, and the dodo (edited)

15:37

It would be good to have most profiles roughly done by the weekend (save for zel's ones which he can presumably do on Saturday) so that our finishing touches can be spent on the map and world design (edited)

Alright so

17:07

we need a design VC dedicated to designing the ships based on the words

17:07

a focused session

Yeah we do

17:12

I could do that any day

today is fine for me

Nice

I can take some of those leftover characters

Cool

I think I'll do the undyne popsplay tomorrow

17:14

just need an eyepatch

Sweet

17:19

When would you be available today?

anytime starting now

And same for @Barbaros @💀 @Byakuren Hijiri

17:19

Cool I'm on lunch so I could do some chatting now if you want

i'm just waiting for my food to arrive

Coolio

then I'll hop on

Sounds good

I'll need to pull some weird hairstyle shit

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17:20

don't mind my shirtlessness

17:21

this'd be easier if I had longer hair still

Yeah it'll def be a challenge lol

I'll also need to shave

17:21

I've tried to grow a beard and it's just not happening

Yeah give that another few years lol

a week without shaving and this is the best I can do

I can grow the 2nd best beard out of my close friends and it's still weak af

damn lol

The area coverage and individual hair thickness is there but the overall density is not

oh yeah thanks for reminding me to put clothes on before picking up my food

LOL

had a shower

Makes sense

(took the pic before the shower)

17:24

(otherwise my hair would be fucked)

Understandable

anyway I'm down to chat

King Harkinian

Cool I'm on lunch so I could do some chatting now if you want

sorry im uh hosting test game rn lol

17:35

oops wrong message but yeah

Oh right lmao

17:39

Whoops

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtzNfgeGwqw

think we got the base image

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I'll draw in the gill ear things later

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15:02

thoughts so far?

15:02

first popsplay of 2022 after all

Yo that looks sick

blublublublublublublub im fish

fish now

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FISH!

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16:09

should I do a bar counter for the background

16:09

or something undertale related

Hmm unsure

I might draw in an elongated ponytail later too

holy frijole I still gotta pick my own character

you do

I've gotta think if there's anyone outside of the three I was mainly considering

16:29

For reference the main three:

16:30

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well you know who my vote is going to be

16:30

it do be obvious

Of course lmao

Only thing that do be stopping me from playing bayle is that I'd like to play an actual pirate

16:46

Since you and akk are technically not pirates (edited)

16:46

3:2 pirate to non pirate ratio would be nice

16:47

I think the main issue is just knowing what my role would be in the game

16:47

I guess we technically don't have a davy jones locker character yet unless that's Barbaros (edited)

16:48

@Barbaros do you think barbaros would make a good davy jones figure? or would it be too hard to make that work

Sorry im a bit busy rn I could maybe, but the idea was more him going around the normal areas telling ppl how to put him back together

Yeah

16:54

Theoretically like

16:54

You could do that and also visit davy jones locker

16:54

You could be like

16:55

"Hey if you want to leave here without waiting for your crew to rescue you, you have to help put me back together and serve me"

Yeah i could mayne

16:55

Maybe*

16:55

I feel like maybe a more gruff mainstay would work better still? But me doing it is viable

Sounds like you'd prefer not so in that case I'll see if I can think of doing one

16:56

i don't particularly feel the urge to play davy jones himself but perhaps I could

we can leave davy jones for later too

Good point

17:46

So I should just figure out what my role should be if we leave that for later

let's recap

17:47

lafitte = owner of bar

17:47

undyne = bartender

-Undyne: Bartender -Barbaros: roaming npc sidequest giver -Laffite: pirate colony leader -McAfee: colonial town leader and eventual antagonist (edited)

oh so laffite wouldn't work at the bar?

Well he's the owner of the bar

17:48

He still serves that role

Alright

I just felt like we discussed him being mcafee's pirate counterpart

yes we did

And that made sense to me

17:50

So we have a roaming pirate, an NPC for the colonial town, NPCs for the pirate town

17:51

And the other non-secret areas are going to be -desert island beach -desert island jungle -additional area next to colonial town?

now we'll have to actually add meaningful things into them

King Harkinian

And the other non-secret areas are going to be -desert island beach -desert island jungle -additional area next to colonial town?

Perhaps one of those

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18:04

for the colonial town

18:05

Colonials are the kind of people to be hunting down and lynching pirates

18:05

You could have a separate area where people are lynched

I was thinking some kind of a religious theme like a square in front of a church? I wonder if that'd relate to more characters

Taoist church in the Caribbean

18:13

btw if I do make a map

18:13

give me indications as to what to put on it

Yeah

18:14

I might make it because I bummed some fantasy mapmaking software from a friend

18:14

But I'll see

18:15

I do like the idea of a judicial square or smth lmao, idk if it needs to be its own area but I love reminding the pirates of the threat of hanging

18:15

Really helps establish the feel of the setting

plas what do you think about the undyne

Undyne

plas what do you think about the undyne

not plas but you're hot

thanks dear

Careful with that chin though It's fine rn but it's slowly chiseling

I can't stop

Soon you won't be able to pull the woman cosplays that convincingly

it has gains of its own

22:51

but nah it's an inward chin it's not fooling anyone at being a chad

i think its rly good lol ur buff damn props

big arms means big heart

fax

Ok lets see I have to write sea hawk, maerk and buccaneer out of the ones I said I'd lead (edited)

00:25

oh and molly

00:25

sadly no more db cooper :(

Sadly

00:29

Sorry I was just out of it today

00:29

Will work on this tomorrow before I leave for my friend's

Ok cool

00:29

Do we still think we can have profiles (and areas) ready by the end of this weekend?

00:30

I'd like to but if it'd be too much of a crunch we can delay more

00:30

@Barbaros @💀 @Byakuren Hijiri pinging yall too since we all have our parts to play

I think so yeah

00:35

Areas won't take long but we need to make the ships concrete

00:35

Good thing we have most of them designed in notes

00:36

(Tbh if we had daily vcs we'd be done by now I think, I've been really lazy)

Well plas has also been sick like he said, so it's probably better this way than if we just vced without him

Yeah

yeah i’ll try and get on it more tmrw

04:07

and would be available to vc then

04:08

i just started a job so i’ve been a lot busier

Ah makes sense

Ok I've come up with abilities (in some cases, 3 abilities, of which one can typically be dropped) for all of the characters I'm leading on, except monkey

04:38

I'll do his tomorrow or sunday

Ok so I'm thinking of hopping in vc in an hour or so, and just hanging out there for 3 hours for whoever wants to join in

I had to take an earlier train than I was told lol

15:02

I'll be busy soon also train mobile data is unreiable

Aight well I'll hop in vc still for plas/akk/zel or whoever ends up being around

15:43

I'm busy for probably 90% of today after 2pm so this next few hours are my best time to work on this

15:43

I will be around tomorrow for most of the morning and afternoon at least (edited)

15:47

I'm gonna try to write up monkey profile, then I'm gonna iron out the mechanic stuff that'll be going into #pirates-code

15:47

After that I might try to get a headstart on some area descriptions

Let me take a shower and I'll be in VC

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SHIP MECHANICS Map There will be a tiled map that watercraft can navigate. -Any seaworthy craft can move around this map, including your starting ships. The map will have land tiles, which are grouped into clusters that represent areas. -Any ship that is adjacent to a land tile has a movement connection to its corresponding area. -By default, ships cannot move onto land tiles. -Crew members can !instantmove on or off their own ship, but it takes a full phase movement to board a different craft. -A player who takes a phase action in a land area can still move back onto their ship as their full phase movement. Ships Ships have 10 hearts of damage by default. -They can be damaged by ship-based weapons, ramming while in the same space, and possibly other attacks. -It takes an action to fix a ship to heal its damage. -Vessels other than the starting ships will have health amounts that vary. Ships can move 2 tiles per phase by default. -Some features may help a ship move faster. Watercraft can share a tile. -If two ships are on the same tile, or adjacent tiles, crew members can board the other ship as a full phase movement -If equipped with certain features, some ships may allow boarding another as a !instantmove. -With certain features, Captains may be able to have their ship follow another ship that they want to maintain adjacency with. -Ship's weapons will have a given range for ship combat. Swimming By default players can swim 1 tile without drowning. This means: -If a player enters a water tile, whether by choice, accident, or action against them, they will have the choice of any adjacent area (landmass or watercraft) to swim to. -If the player cannot return to the point from where they entered the water (e.g. if they were pushed off by hostile forces), and there are no other adjacent areas, the character will drown. -Some characters will have exceptions to this. More information will be clarified when the game map is released. (edited)

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Does this look good? We could post it today if so @Barbaros @Undyne @Byakuren Hijiri @💀

17:08

Give players something to chew on so they can digest these rules before game start

17:09

What do we think of giving ships 10 hearts of damage?

mm im good with most of this yeah i still feel kinda iffy abt the drowning thing tho even if its maybe unavoidable

Well keep in mind like

like if ppl just try to push someone off the boat they just die that seems a bit overpowered

a LOT of players will be unable to drown

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or at least they will have a much larger swimming distance

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Just based on who/what they are

i suppose tho that arguably unbalances things then lol

Well it does but keep in mind

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Most of the tiles in the game will probably be one tile away from a landmass

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The circumstances for someone to drown will be rare

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And remember

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The player will not be out of the game if they drown

i suppose so yeah

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yeah alright i think im ok with this then

Like let's see who shouldn't be able to drown -Koeia -Quagsire -Ianis -Maerk? He has a shark head and is not a full shark so maybe that will just increase his swim distance -The Hoff -James Pond -Molly -Murasa

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So that's only some players

Think we can post

Awesome

Well I guess I'm not hosting map game after all

18:27

I'm NPCing for it though!

Lmao

Alright nerds

15:39

Today's the day we get to work

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Areas. Profiles. The whole deal

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I can start on writing areas and if yall want to write up some potential profiles I can help workshop them

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I can also VC pretty soon

let me read

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then I'll hop on VC and await instructions

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for being useful

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oh wait you sent that like two hours ago lmao

18:01

@King Harkinian I feel like we're still missing, like, mechanical descriptions of areas in the sense of "what objectives/characters/gameplay does this area serve" for each one

I can still VC

18:18

Just finished lunch

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@Undyne @Byakuren Hijiri @Barbaros @💀 feel free to join chat

aight i'm ok to get into vc rn

Undyne

@King Harkinian I feel like we're still missing, like, mechanical descriptions of areas in the sense of "what objectives/characters/gameplay does this area serve" for each one

Yes I agree, I didn't want to do those alone

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I just wanted to at least write the flavourtext so we have a base we can use

What's up everyone?

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so that'd be

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Aura, Murasa

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Futo

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And Noah yeah

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Cortez is done anyways right

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iirc

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christian education moment

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kinda crazy that you just ate lunch

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and I'm about to eat diner

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TIMEZONES

still reading

Well I guess I'll go ahead and start

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give me a sec

i'll be able to chime in in a few hours

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alright bavck

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yeah I should probably close EU4 it's distracting me LOL

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Noah: 1 Murasa: 2 Futo: 3 Aura: 4

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guess it's Noah first

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18:36

damn I think my sound is bugging

18:36

He does???

Aight back

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I'm a bit stressed right now

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Do you mind if I just

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do this tomorrow

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or at least later

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I need to decompress a bit

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Eh it's mostly because I was pulled in after diner for a very imperious kind of discussion where I have given strict hours as to when to go to bed etc

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Which is always something that ruffles my feathers the wrong way

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So, right now I'm just really frustrated

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so yeah, cya

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sorry

Yeah don't worry abt it take your time to decompress

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BTW @Undyne @Barbaros out of the unclaimed characters you can probably split them 4/3 or 5/2

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may, ceres, james pond, koeia, entrapta, bec trede, and the dodo

20:57

In terms of who will write the profile

sure

actually yeah 4/3 makes sense

20:57

Since pop has 2 originally (twig, ianis) and plas has 3 (cortez, muskular, karl)

ah damn i missed the vc lol but aight yea ill stil maybe go through all the profiles one more time even if just for myself but ye im good with that

20:59

i can do ceres and the dodo prob and maybe koeia? i thought they already had a bit but idr or may

I could still vc for a little bit if you'd like

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just in 5 minutes or so

sorry i'm late, i was doing stuff

outsidemyhouse

So basically what pop and I did was touch on every character for a bit to make sure we were on the same page

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If yall want to do that and post ur thoughts for characters if you have any, that'd be good

ya i'll go through

You could also share ideas on areas and what they could have for ppls objectives

anything that deals with roll bonuses is a skill rather than ability right?

Generally yeah

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Though there are some grey areas

ah i never really understood the diff pff

Particularly if the effect requires something active in the action rather than meeting some criteria for a passive bonus, it's usually more possible to be an ability

I can't sleep :(

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Idk what it is but I can't stop thinking about this delay

06:28

It's eating away at me

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I'm feeling like I should have done more last week or I should have said it'd be longer than a week from the outset

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I know it's irrational but I just can't get myself to fully relax

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Yet I there's also nothing I can do tonight

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I need to sleep because I have work tomorrow (and I also have meetings all morning so I can't immediately go to work on the game like I want)

06:30

Fuck

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Ok maybe now that I've vented that maybe I can sleep

It happens bro, no one has any bad feelings about waiting because it's gonna be ace

Yeah ik miyamoto delayed game good eventually rushed game gabagool

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Also whew glad that was only 1:30 I was worried it was 2 or something (I didn't look at the time so as not to make myself more anxious)

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I still probably didn't fall asleep until 2

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But I ended up oversleeping until 9:15 anyway so I guess I still got my 7 hours

GOD I hate telling people about delays

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It feels like I'm breaking a promise or an obligation

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Anyway I'm gonna try to work on the map today (including how areas will relate to objectives) and also write up the ship areas (edited)

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I'll also polish off the profiles I led that we had changes for, and start formatting them for sending out

I will go through ships

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I can write area descriptions for all the ships?

Oh sure

I got out of the gym and am eating now but I'll do that once I get home and am done with uni reading

Though if you only have limited time today I could do them while you do some of the remaining profiles

I guess I can do profiles first

14:45

I can prob do both

Cool

Know what

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I'll get home and work on this first

14:57

I can read later

Also like

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If we start the game on say wednesday

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Are yall gonna be good for rollovers and such

Yea

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I don't have anything during rollover times

Cool

Are you sure it'll be done by Wednesday?

No it was a hypothetical

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There's no reason it can't be done by wednesday and I know that I for one will be grinding to finish the map and everything

15:41

All we need are the remaining profiles and the ship areas, then to set everything up in the bot

Talking of map, will you do it?

I'll do it at least the initial design (and we can have a back-and-forth to agree on the exact layout), then if you want to do a version of it in your software/style you'd be welcome to

Why are people back in the Caribbean in the past?

(U should prob give more context since not everyone else was looking at the murasa thread probably)

Well, why is it that people were brought back in time? What should be the lore reason for that?

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I personally feel like it'd improve the game's feel if that was explained.

I said I'd recuse myself from the discussion for now but I'm gonna butt in to say it can def be tied into something that's already in the game/gonna be in the game

Yeah of course

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I'm going to accused of Touhoucentrism, but maybe it can be Byakuren related?

Well

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We already have the idea of atlantis having large technology capable of lifting the entire archipelago of the game world into the air

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So what if it's tied to that, like the archipelago is in a time bubble or something

Yeah that could make sense

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I guess the question zel's asking is more just 'how did they all get sent to this time bubble'

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Which we could just not explain

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Because no matter what the explanation is it could have holes

OK so to interrupt

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Here's a bit of a map mockup

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this is cool

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i feel like its a bit weird that u can also get from colonial to pirate in 2 spaces as well tho

Oh good point yeah

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Diagonals

oooohhhhh

pf yeah

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u could just kill this bit of land

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idk if itd look weird or not tho

Oh yeah the exact land formations would be tweaked for sure

King Harkinian

Here's a bit of a map mockup

wait how did you do the texturing (edited)

It's a program called Wonderdraft it has built in textures

Btw I should write up template profiles

**__Player:__** **__Character:__** **__Crew Objective:__** **__Personal Objective:__** **Role: <ROLE>** <role description> <Abilities/Skills>

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Template role descriptions:

**__Role: Captain__** As Captain, you may state in your action where your ship will go each phase, as long as you are aboard. You may also change your Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game, and your First and Second Mate up to one time each.

**__Role: First Mate__** As First Mate, you may state in your action where your ship will go, if you are aboard and the Captain is not. Each phase, you may apply a +2 roll bonus to either your roll or the Captain's, but not both. You become Captain if the Captain is killed.

**__Role: Second Mate__** As Second Mate, you may state in your action where your ship will go, if you are aboard and the Captain and First Mate are not. Each phase, you may apply a +2 roll bonus to either your roll or the Captain's, but not both. You become Captain if the Captain and First Mate are killed.

**__Role: Sailor (Lookout)__** As a Lookout, you gain a 40% bonus on all spy actions. While on board your ship, you automatically spy on the top deck of any ship 1 tile away with 100% accuracy, and 2 tiles away with 50% accuracy.

**__Role: Sailor (Surgeon)__** As a Surgeon, you can heal any character by 1 heart as a phase action. If aboard your ship, this becomes 1.5 hearts.

**__Role: Sailor (Gunner)__** As a Gunner, you have a 95% chance to hit your target on any attack action. While on your ship, you do an extra 0.25 hearts of damage with personal weapons, and an extra 0.75 hearts with shipboard weapons.

**__Role: Sailor (Cook)__** As a Cook, you can produce a boundless variety of food and drink items, each inducing different effects. In your action you may specify either what sort of meal you want to produce, or what you want its effect to be.

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All looks good to me

18:49

I wrote up something for dodo, next up koeia

18:49

I just realized I have to wake up at 6AM tomorrow. whoops. oh well

18:49

I'll get this done as fast as possible but I can't work on areas today

18:51

oh I got an idea for koeia

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what if she can get the ability to turn into her beast form but only if she acquires and destroys the weapon mcafee's crew stabbed her with

18:52

it could be hidden in mcafee's place or whatever

oh cool yeah

18:52

that works

it could be climactic

It would be for sure

so I was thinking for koeia, that she'd have to stay in water, except if she as an action drinks some or something and then gets 1 phase of land movement before starting to take damage? (edited)

18:57

So this means she can't moveinstant to the top of her ship but she can moveinstant from the bottom through the fish tube into whatever waters the ship is docked in

18:57

because assumedly every area the ships can land in do have water lol

18:57

except for the inland areas like tavern or jungle

Oh yeah that's a great idea

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Perfect

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**__Role: Sailor (Midshipman)__** As a Midshipman, you gain a +5 roll bonus to any actions taken aboard any ship. Also while aboard your own ship, you deal 0.25 extra hearts of damage, can heal a player for 0.75 hearts, and automatically spy on the top deck of a ship 1 tile away with 90% accuracy.

**__Role: Sailor (Mechanic)__** As a Mechanic, you gain a +5 roll bonus to any actions involving building or fixing something with tools. You also can fix damage to your own ship for 3 hearts as a phase action.

**__Role: Sailor (Scientist)__** As a Scientist, you gain a +5 roll bonus to any actions involving researching, creating, or fixing something experimental. You also can fix damage to your own ship for 3 hearts as a phase action.

**__Role: Mutineer__** As a Mutineer, you may state where you want your ship to go while on board, and if you beat the Captain/Mate's roll by at least 3, it will follow your direction. For each crew member that has voiced their support of you, that threshold is reduced by 1. You may also declare a Mutiny one time as your phase action, or trigger one by killing the Captain. Alternatively, you may begin a new crew with at least two followers. For each recruit, you gain a +4 bonus to commandeering a non-player-controlled ship, and a 25% reduction in cost of contracting a new ship to be built.

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19:07

Oh should we format roles and abilities with underlines or just bolding

19:08

In wizard game we formatted everything with bold + underlnes

19:08

but it could make sense to only underline player/character/objectives for readability?

19:08

eh idk

Alright I think I got something for koeia

19:09

I don't think the formatting is that exact of a science

I know it's not but it's one of those little things i get indecision over

I get it

Ok let's do all underlined

RUMORS/LEGENDS THAT NEED TO BE PLANTED INTO THE PLAYERS' NOGGINS TO GET THEM STARTED ON THEIR QUESTS OR WHATEVER -Atlantis exists somewhere! There should be a map that shows the tile somewhere! Hidden? Kept by someone? Maybe kept by mcafee because his monster is keeping watch by the entrance? -Encino exists somewhere! Maybe the pirate tavern knows about this? Map, again? -Atlantis has some kind of technology that can change the nature of the archipelago the game is set within -Davy Jones is real and the locker exists, one must die to get there (edited)

Consistency

What else do we need to keep in mind

Davy jones locker?

right

Aside from that it all checks out (edited)

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19:12

Let's say mcafee has the map for atlantis

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and there are rumors he has it in the town

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the map for encino could be in the pirate town, must do some show of piracy for laffite to get it?

Perhaps yeah

19:13

We still need something for me to do btw

you could, if we leave davy jones for later when needed, be an informant in the colonial town

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if I'm kind of the informant in the pirate town

19:14

you could be a merchant

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since there's some trade that needs to happen iirc

Morshu

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Wait we've had morshu before I know I can think of someone better

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I could just be bayle domon!

wooooo

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bayle set up shop

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I'll do uhh james pond and then I gotta be done for today I'm sorry

19:16

I really need to write notes for an essay I have to write tomorrow after morning kendo

19:16

but that's at least some ??? characters done

Yeah

19:18

Who else were you gonna do?

I was gonna work on ship area descriptions

Oh ok right

19:20

Well if you'd want we could split them to take some load off you (edited)

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And let's see if you've done dodo, koeia, and james pond, that leaves may, entrapta, ceres, and bec trede

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up to @Barbaros which of those he wants to do most, but I can do the leftovers

Alright wrote up something for james pond

King Harkinian

It's a program called Wonderdraft it has built in textures

OH yeah I've heard of that

19:35

I should pirate that

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It's quite cheap to buy actually (not that I did.......)

19:38

I said I'd buy it but I got my friend to send me the installer (no drm) as a 'trial'... and it's really cool but I don't use it often enough to actually feel like buying

19:40

We could honestly try to finalize the base map today and release it

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If we want to publish something

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Like

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In terms of the overall layout not the details of every area

just don't include atlantis or encino lol

yeah

19:40

lmao

I think we shouldn't have any "burned out" parts

19:40

Just let the hidden areas be hidden in plain sight

yeah just leave em unmarked and make encino look the same as rest of the jungle

Yeah yeah

Cool sounds like a plan then I'll post some tweaked versions in here soon

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So we can agree on the final ver

Alright

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King Harkinian

Cool sounds like a plan then I'll post some tweaked versions in here soon

Want me to like

bam

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edit it

19:49

a bit

Undyne

bam

Pop, why must you be hot as a man and a woman

19:50

it's not fair

maybe I should add in some kind of a counter for the foreground

Byakuren Hijiri

Pop, why must you be hot as a man and a woman

I keep my radiator on the highest setting

how is that relevant (edited)

heat

By the way, what do we do about Cooper?

19:55

Since Knight dropped

nothing

Yeah, nothing

19:57

can you post the map tomorrow if I post popsplay today @King Harkinian

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Undyne

can you post the map tomorrow if I post popsplay today @King Harkinian

Sure? Fine by me either way

Cool

Oh you're going to reveal rn?

20:02

damn

20:02

just like that

I'll change the pfp

on god

let them notice it

@King Harkinian Wanna VC?

20:12

@Undyne @💀 you too

20:12

@Barbaros Why didn't I just ping everyone in one message

Sure I can for a bit

20:14

Not too long though since I'm still working

I'm sleep soon after I do uni writing

Yknow as well as bayle domon works for an npc I keep thinking I want to play someone funnier

wot characters do tend to be reserved

20:34

morshu would be funny

Maybe even the King

20:35

since his ship sails in the morning

LOL

Oh man maybe he's at the harbor waiting for his ship to be completed at the shipyard

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And if someone wants to they can get the parts for his ship, finish it, and steal it

20:36

Or if they're nice they can finish it for him and have him join them on it

20:36

Ok I think I have to do this now

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AND IF THEY TAKE THE SHIP TO FIGHT THE KRAKEN HE CAN USE THE DINNER BLASTER

LOL

That's it

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I'm playing King Harkinian

dinner.

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LMAO

20:40

https://tenor.com/view/king-harkinian-eating-burger-dinner-gif-14290574

Oh right area music (edited)

20:56

Let me gather up some stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfcZacwnVCk this is the bar music

Runescape 07 - Sea Shanty 2 (Trap Remix)

Undyne

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfcZacwnVCk this is the bar music

I don't know maybe this a bit too high-key?

20:59

depends on how the bar is supposed to feel

yeah but sea shanty is a classic

King Harkinian

Here's a bit of a map mockup

Also, you should probably pin this

21:00

We could probably use this? https://youtu.be/oiGxNFlOO5k

Final Fantasy XI OST - Selbina

I'll pin it for now but I'll replace the pin when I post an updated ver

on a serious note this could be bar music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlRbflVaMBY

Tsuumi Sound System - Topic

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Undyne

on a serious note this could be bar music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlRbflVaMBY

Yeah the piano does add a calmer vibe to it

the ff track is good too

21:02

but I wanna rep tsuumi

So, what's the list of areas exactly?

the best contemporary folk band from finland

21:02

you can look at area notes

The FF track could be used outside

Undyne

you can look at area notes

where is that

I feel like the outside of the pirate town should be a little more pirate-y

21:02

like a bustling theme

21:02

it's below wanted posters

-pirate town -pirate bar -colonial town -harbor/shipyard -deserted beach -jungle -atlantis -encino

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#area-notes

21:03

Atlantis and Encino may not need music

21:03

Since they're lategame hidden areas

For Encino, we could use the ruins from SA1

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For image? That's perfect

21:04

Though

oh yeah totally

We might need to superimpose that on like

21:04

An actual image of encino

https://youtu.be/CSc0R_K4TVc

Mystic Ruins - Sonic Adventure [OST]

can we have bones drinking himself into a stupor in the corner of the bar

Sure

Byakuren Hijiri

For Encino, we could use the ruins from SA1

Combine that image with this or this

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wait what's the lore behind this

Encino is a real life district in LA

21:06

It's where Patchy canonically lives in Spongebob

21:06

But they're also treating it like a lost ancient city

21:07

So having it be some combination of 'irl looking place' and 'ancient jungle ruins' is ideal

could also just include a sign

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21:07

but it'd be funnier to cut out the temple into an actual encino street

Oh yeah

As for Atlantis, what vibe do we want for it?

21:07

Ghost town?

21:07

Super advanced?

it'd be abandoned yeah

21:07

abandoned and advanced

right

kinda like tf2 comics

You know what's funny

Wait I might have a good track for that

21:07

https://youtu.be/sE3B8MnZPKs

Falcom Music Channel

Sora no Kiseki FC OST - Tetracyclic Tower

The episode of spongebob where Encino goes missing in Patchy's storyline is the same one where spongebob goes to Atlantis (edited)

suggestion for atlantis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfhH4dgfqiM

Falcom Music Channel

Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim OST - Ultramarine Deep

Alternatively https://youtu.be/Zm6Tw7ieIG0

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker Music: Tower of the Gods

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suggestion for atlantis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfhH4dgfqiM

I WAS LITERALLY GOING TO SUGGEST THIS

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LOL

21:11

You've got good taste

i know you like that song lol

21:11

that's why i thought of it

check out the part at 2:02 for ultramarine deep

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I love how the breaks just

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stop at funky intervals

21:12

Yeah, this could be the entrance to Atlantis

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21:12

or something like that

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I don't think the entrance will be its own area

21:12

It'll just be a water tile

Sure, that tile can have a special image though

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can we have bones drinking himself into a stupor in the corner of the bar

context for this is that mcafee confiscated his ship and now he's stranded here

Lmaoo

That might be my irresistible to add a little bit of existential horror to anything I work on but

21:16

I think we should try to make a lot of the ocean and those secret areas have mystic to them

21:16

Give them an atmosphere of wonder which simultaneously makes the players feel insignificant

21:17

Yeah this is totally my design instinct talking right now sorry haha

21:19

Or maybe I should just save this for ATLAS I don't know lol

21:19

I'll say this in exclusivity that it does have a pretty watery setting too.

Well the area descriptions can definitely evoke that a bit, especially with atlantis

21:19

And the image for atlantis can too

@Undyne Here, I feel like you'd love this https://youtu.be/OdPKdvREJBE

19.Balsamic Moon - Shingetsutan Tsukihime OST

King Harkinian

It'll just be a water tile

It'd have the monster

I might have already linked you this before lol

I think you did but it's not bad

21:23

I feel like it'd be hype with story context

I mean what can I respond except "read Tsukihime" lol (edited)

21:27

Maybe this'd work for Atlantis?

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Yoooo that's SICK

I might have another one

21:33

@King Harkinian

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Nice

Which one do you like the most?

I think the first one probably

I have a whole folder of potential area images

https://youtu.be/1HqlC8XMeoI

Mood for a Day (2008 Remaster)

21:54

This could work for the tavern

I'm all for nonvgm

here's mcafee's old house in belize

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22:00

debating which would make for a better area image

22:00

(i assume you'd be able to moveinstant to mcafee's compound from the colonial town)

The sign makes it better lol

yeah probably

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sick

22:09

too bad there aren't any good far cry 3 songs i can use for mcafee's compound

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We probably won't do mcafee's compound as an area for the sake of reducing our already huge area count

22:29

But who knows what will happen over the course of the game

Don't mind me I guess I'm just on an area image spree rn

Lmao it's fair

22:29

We need good images

22:30

U can prob post them in #wanted-posters

22:30

While noting them down as ideas

22:31

Also I JUST REALIZED

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THE KING IS ALSO A PIRATE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bM2b5cfeZo

[YTP] The King Downloads Sony Vegas

TRUE

YES THIS ONE

This video also connects my character to yours

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Thanks toby fox

Oh yeah spamton keygen

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Two degrees of separation

King Harkinian

We probably won't do mcafee's compound as an area for the sake of reducing our already huge area count

where were you thinking of situating him?

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or just like, having the compound as a part of the town rather than a standalone area

Alright I've looked enough

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or just like, having the compound as a part of the town rather than a standalone area

Yeah it'd probably be this

23:19

But we could leave it as a grey area

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Like the compound is described as part of the town and that's where he is but if someone REALLY wants to go there, maybe they can

23:20

For now we should try to avoid it being a full area

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Oh also

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@Barbaros How do you want to do the stuff for your npc

23:20

People have to recover his body parts or smth right?

aa sorry yeah

23:21

i was thinking theyd be in like chests and stuff sorry i should be present a bit more lol

so there are 4?

honestly as many as we think is viable

23:21

he normally has like 20 missing or something but the amount we'd want id just say he has all of the rest intact already

Well how about this: he starts on the Beach and the first one is buried there

thats fair i was thinking he could just sorta move around freely

Well sure

cuz he can just fly around or whatever

He could move to any area where he has one

Btw I'm sorry for not being productive with profiles and shit

23:22

I'm lazy

Then there could be one for sale as a souvenir in the colonial town, one sitting somewhere in the pirate town, and maybe one more somewhere

maybe his uh case with all his body parts would be in the beach tho if that works

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and he could start there

Sure

yeah that works

23:22

also which profiles still arent finished?

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i can try to maybe do all of those today

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cuz ik i havent done much yet

Aura, Murasa, Futo I know aren't done

23:23

But we've laid down ideas for them I think

i know cortez and karl are mostly wips from me i can just write up

At least for Murasa and Aura

i think theres bec trede?

Muskular, Bec Trede, Ceres, Entrapta, May

ah yeah aight

23:24

i feel decent about most if not all of these being doable for me

i think pop said he would write muskular's

23:24

do it if you want to tho

well ill save it for last at least then, tho i do think i could if need be

I can do one or two of those remaining profiles too if need be

23:25

I would like us to start on wednesday

23:25

Do we think we could have profiles done by end of tomorrow?

that day works perfect for me

i think so

for starting the game i mean

i will say i have an appointment on wednesday but it is pretty early i might not be feeling great after it, hard to say but id prob be fine after that

i'm gonna revamp demo's a bit now, i finalized quag's, vriska's, scarlett's, and hoff's today but i'll let gms make any final edits

Awesome thanks akk

ye ty

np

Barbaros

i will say i have an appointment on wednesday but it is pretty early i might not be feeling great after it, hard to say but id prob be fine after that

And yeah that's no problem, if you're not feeling great it's probably okay since it's just gonna be a bunch of bot grunt work that we can cover if you're out of it

yeah its good we have 3 gms and 2 npcs lol

Did you guys consider role abilities?

in what sense?

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iirc spaceman wrote up what the roles did earlier

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unless u mean

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actually

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did we ever think about

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the few that people made up yet lol

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i can help with that after dinner also if not

Ppl only made up 2 iirc

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Mechanic and Scientist

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And I did write those up if u look below my template pin

Also what we think of dis

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i think its missing the land connection on the big left island but this is good

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whats the yellow line for tho?

King Harkinian

Also what we think of dis

eh you should maybe make the top right island more interesting

are we planning on showing the map today? cuz i was thinkin maybe we should make a diff public one

00:15

anyways im gonna go through all the profiles now and make a checklist on the spreadsheet

We'd make a different one for public for sure

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One that doesn't show the secret areas lol

yeah

And we can show it today or tomorrow morning

i was thinking a few other things tho

Byakuren Hijiri

eh you should maybe make the top right island more interesting

wdym by this exactly? do you mean like in terms of the coastal texture/shape?

Well, it's pretty round

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it doesn't look like actual geography yk

Yeah ik

00:20

I can def improve that a bit

like maybe not even naming any of the areas (and possibly also in turn making a clear difference in appearance between the harbor and the colonial town) and also maybe making the general water around atlantis a bit more noticeably darker like still mostly subtle but definitely so people can suspect (edited)

meanwhile the souther island looks great

tbh i think its just the beach part that looks a bit too round yeah

Yeah I love how the pirate island turned out, these tools are absolutely goated (edited)

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Because you can set the 'roughness' parameter

ah nice

if you need inspiration

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Nice yeah

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Labelled

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Unlabelled next

hm

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looks good, tho i think id maybe

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reduce the darker part a bit, like make the bottom right corner of the map a bit lighter (edited)

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so its a tad more centralized

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i think thatd be perfect

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nice

The beach part is smoother because beach

mmm

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I think you should maybe retreat the beach a bit

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like have an hexagon be half sea half beach

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because realistically beach doesn't outstretch into the sea like that unless there's a river delta

well tbf the idea is encino is in the center

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oh wait

00:40

u mean making the beach smaller nvm

Yeah that's a good point I was feeling a bit iffy about how it looked because of that

You guys think we can launch tomorrow?

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If I do the profiles I just dropped ideas for earlier today I think we could

well theres still some more things to do

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i think wed is still a bit more reasonable of a guess but idk

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imma do as much as i can today

Remember, we don't need to do everything

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on game start

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or rather, for game start

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If players can't see an area

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it doesn't matter if it's finished or not

Like if we really pushed tonight and tomorrow morning we could start it tomorrow but I feel like wednesday gives us breathing room

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I'd rather look over everything twice before gamestarting for a game like this

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Because of how many weird unique things there are

tbh we'd be on time if I wasn't lazy

Well no we'd be on time if you didn't have french boarding school, akk didn't have work, plas hadn't been sick last week, and pop didn't have an insane amount of stuff for uni

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We've done the best we could in the circumstances

00:44

We can't all be grinding in all our spare time

yea

Gotta give ourselves some time to breathe

which btw did we figure out the diff uh

Yeah but I could've worked on this instead of not working on this

roles

saturday, sunday, and yesterday

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oxford comma

like mechanic and stuff or whatever

Yes plas see my template pin then scroll down

Also

00:45

I think I'm noticing that

00:45

This is probably the maximum amount of people we can host a game with

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Because it's hard to be coordinated with this amount of people I feel

ah yeah mb nice

mb?

00:47

my bad?

yeah i said that responding to what spaceman said

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is that a wall

No

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Just showing the line between areas

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Probably could do that better

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oh yeah, mb if this has already been done, but how will people know of encino's existence and placement?

Well ppl will be looking for encino

01:09

They will hear rumours about it by asking around

01:09

Eventually they'll be able to find a map that will allow them to visit the jungle and find encino in it (edited)

ah ok thats fair

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and atlantis, mm i still feel like its not super clear on the map that thats an area of note but i could be wrong itd perhaps be a bit more ideal if there was something between it and another island or perhaps we could also just have someone like "pointlessly" warn people of bad weather around there

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or somethin

Oh yeah like

01:11

Ppl aren't supposed to know atlantis is there from the map

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They'll find out about it over the course of the game

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That was one of the things that pop wanted to make sure of and I agreed

01:13

That the players can't just be like 'oh there's def a secret there' from the map

ah ok thats fair actualy

01:24

i just wanted to make sure they knew at all but if we have ideas in place to do it later on thats fair enouggh

01:24

*enough

01:24

i guess im not used to games being long enough ~~and consistent enough~~ for that to be a common thing to expect lol

Well many objectives involve finding secrets so lots of people will be asking around

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It's challenging because we have to intentionally pace it so that these areas are discovered later on

01:27

In order for the game to be satisfying

yeah

01:27

i think we have enough stuff including npcs and stuff for it to be doable, including in a pinch

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i just hope we make sure people do go exploring beyond the paths we have set out

oh they will

01:28

eventually they'll have to

fair

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actually considering roster size and area size yeah its probably pretty likely unless they somehow get caught up in one specific one

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but i think we've kinda made a system that discourages stuff like that

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though i am somewhat wondering if we should maybe still like

01:30

possibly "reward" people for exploring and not actually finding yknow the places we have put out there

Perhaps

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I'm creatively drained rn so we can talk tmrw and see what pop and the others think abt that

fair

So let's see what we have Full Profiles: Molly, Steve, Monkey, Sea Hawk, Maerk, Orla, Terraria, Carvallain, Edwin, Inigo, Patchy Polished Abilities: Demoman, Scarlett, Quagsire, The Hoff, Vriska, Twig, Ianis, James Pond, Koeia, Dodo Tentative Abilities: Cortez Ideas: Murasa, Aura, Noah, May, Ceres, Karl, Muskular Nothing: Futo, Entrapta, Bec Trede

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In other words we're really in the home stretch

02:49

We can get these all done plus polish off areas by end of tomorrow

yeah im still getting on that tonight

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def cortez and karl at least

Nice

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Honestly I can probably do ceres and entrapta

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Just maybe not tn since I'm p tired for that

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Oh do we think there's anyone we could have zucchini play at any point?

Good morning spaceman

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Get used to me being awake before you go to sleep on tuesdays

?!?!???

7am kendo practice this semester

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YES

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5:55 alarm wooo it's like I'm back at work!

yeesh

King Harkinian

Oh do we think there's anyone we could have zucchini play at any point?

Oh and that's uhh I mean sure if we have time to design him

Oh I meant

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as an NPC

04:23

Like if we think we might need to airdrop in an NPC for some role

04:23

E.g. they could be the kraken, or some merchant

Oh yeah keep him in reserve

goin to sleep now, just finished up the two i said id do but hopefully ill be up earlyish tomorrow and i will work on some of the others when i am up

TBH still can't believe no one is playing pirate erika

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It's the biggest missed opportunity of this game

Undyne

TBH still can't believe no one is playing pirate erika

I think it's because that's pretty far off from what she's become in objective lore.

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Also pirate erika literally only is in episode 8

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So, it's not the most surface level part of her character.

is this an umineko spoiler

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if so, it has made me more likely to read it, because anything with pirates in it must be good

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WAIT NO

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I can't say that

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Because that would mean homestuck is good

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I take it back

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But I'll still read umineko

King Harkinian

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@Undyne @💀 btw yall good if I post this today

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@Barbaros @Byakuren Hijiri too though you already looked last night just for confirmation

ya

This means that it's possible to get from beach->colonial->harbor->pirate (or the reverse) on a phase by phase basis, but to get from pirate<-> colonial directly or harbor->pirate->beach it requires a turn at sea (edited)

King Harkinian

is this an umineko spoiler

lol trust me it's the most out of context thing you could ever hear about umineko you're good

16:42

and yeah I'm good with posting the map today

16:43

so the only current route requiring a turn at sea would be beach to pirate town, but beach to pirate town is also a 2 tile route... I don't get it?

16:43

are those two different pirate town areas?

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And if so, why would anyone ever use the sea route when they can just do it in the same amount of time while stopping at a much more interesting tile?

It's just an option

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It's all the same pirate town area

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Keep in mind that part of the thing about these routes is that they're "safe routes"

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So showing the route is mainly to show that, if they want to cut across the ocean, it's safe to do so

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Alternately

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We could remove showing that route and just show the one between colonial town and pirate town

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Or show both

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Actually we should probably show the colonial-pirate one no matter what

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@Undyne wdyt abt this?

Looks good

17:14

We can make it clear you can do manual tile movement if you REALLY want to

17:15

But it might uhh damage the ship maybe? Or just will have nothing to see unless they find atlantis?

We could have like a chance of storms or smth

17:15

Zel suggested an interesting mechanic for storms in the Murasa thread

17:15

Makes ship weapons less accurate for one

Not relevant if you're alone

Could also result in a risk of sending you to the wrong location on your next turn

Hmm

Undyne

Not relevant if you're alone

yes that's why it's 'for one'

Yeah

17:16

Actually it's for 7-9

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Unless only one person is manning the ship

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So we could post this and say smth like 'here's a map of the region your ship is headed, along with some of the safe routes that have been charted by navigators over the years."

Sure

Do we think we can have all profiles done by end of day today

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@Barbaros @Byakuren Hijiri @Undyne

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I can handle a couple to make things easier

Think so

yeah im gonna get on that soon

Well I think I'm gonna post the map

King Harkinian

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@Pirate Lord @Master Mariner speak now or forever hold your piss

i cannot do that

Dip my penis in some poop

18:58

Call it a poonis

anyways yeah im good w it

Sorry I've been making diner since 6PM

19:01

Also I think I can get my profiles done tonight yeah

1

Nice and ping me if u need anyone to bounce ideas off

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Should I post it in #announcements or #captains-cabin

Post what? The map?

Yeah

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WAIT

19:03

I meant

i assume u mean

It looks done to me

19:03

I believe

code lmao

#pirates-code

19:03

not captains cabin

hmm

19:04

aa its tough lol

19:04

maybe pirates code

19:04

it is kinda rule-related in a sense

Yeah

19:04

And ppl can look at the tiles and look at the post right above it to reference the rules

yeye

"The below map will help you navigate the region where your ships are bound. Included are some of the safe sea routes that have been charted over the years, for a voyage free from storms and more dangerous things."

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How do we like the sound of that?

yeah that works

19:13

actually one more thing

19:13

have we decided where people start on the map?

Not yet

is it gonna be like

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in the center maybe

19:13

actually i guess they have to be kinda apart

I was thinking monkey crew starts in pirate town, ghost ship crew starts in harbour, ms kye starts in colonial town, and vriska crew starts on beach or at sea

oh i was thinking theyd all start at sea but that works too

Probably best that they aren't cooped up at sea for the first phase, since they've already only been on their ships

19:15

Though I mean

19:15

We could do that

19:15

Then there'd be more discussion about "where to go first"

the idea was so like they could kidna choose yeah

19:15

oh and also theyll be able to like

Well we can figure out what we think is best

experience their ships

Maybe a couple crews can start at sea and a couple can start in a port

my only thing is i was considering having a group kinda exactly behind where the legend is lol (edited)

That could be interesting

19:16

Anyway imma go ahead and post

aight

what still needs to be done for profiles?

King Harkinian

So let's see what we have Full Profiles: Molly, Steve, Monkey, Sea Hawk, Maerk, Orla, Terraria, Carvallain, Edwin, Inigo, Patchy Polished Abilities: Demoman, Scarlett, Quagsire, The Hoff, Vriska, Twig, Ianis, James Pond, Koeia, Dodo Tentative Abilities: Cortez Ideas: Murasa, Aura, Noah, May, Ceres, Karl, Muskular Nothing: Futo, Entrapta, Bec Trede

i believe this but minus cortez and karl

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im gonna be workin on em soon im just gonna do a quick thing with possibly where everyone could start on the map and then update the spreadsheet with a couple things

I mean I can finalize the polished abilities ones

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and write bec trede

Sure

unless there's something that needs to be changed for the polished ones

I don't think so really

but I think we're more or less fine with them

19:50

yeah

They just need to be combined with ship roles player names etc into full profiles (edited)

19:52

So if you're doing bec trede, zel is doing murasa, aura, noah, and futo, then that leaves may, muskular, ceres, and entrapta

19:52

I said I could probably do ceres and entrapta if needed

19:52

And I think plas is doing muskular

19:52

And may too seems like

we have a base idea for muskular already anyway

yeah

19:53

Maybe you should write up that one slightly so plas has your idea to go off of?

I thought I already pretty much did

i can prob do ceres too and maybe entrapta

Well I'm not really doing anything else today so it's no skin off my nose

19:56

Unless I should handle some of the ship area writeups? Idk exactly what ur plan was for that @Undyne

well anyone can handle the writeups really we already decided on the composition of the ships

19:57

I can do the ship area images tomorrow based on your writeups?

Sure

20:00

Sounds great

20:00

Are you down to start tomorrow if we can get profiles done tonight?

20:00

And area writeups

20:01

Just want to make sure ur cool with that before you head off for the night and it doesn't take you by surprise if we're planning to do it tomorrow

I should be down to start tomorrow yeah

20:03

nothing to do that night

20:04

can we agree that the sea monster will be the giant whale from the bec trede song?

Uh hmm

20:05

I was still liking the idea of kraken

like I get krakens are cool

20:05

well

20:05

how about

20:05

mcafee

20:05

found the atlantis tech

20:05

and used it to combine a KRAKEN with the GIANT WHALE THAT ALMOST ATE HIM

20:05

to create a KRAWHALE

20:05

WHAKEN

20:06

I do really wanna include the whale somehow because I have no idea how I'd include it in pizzies profile, but it's a big part of the song and we're already rolling with bec trede's dad being an important figure so I'd rather want the big boss monster to actually relate to one of the characters instead of just being a generic classic sea creature

20:06

y'know?

We could just have both

20:07

Now hear me out on why

20:07

What happens if one crew is about to fight mcafee right as another crew is making for atlantis

20:08

Alsooo

20:08

What's really funny is

20:09

Since the humphrey ship didn't end up getting named just Humphrey

20:09

The giant whale could BE HUMPHREY

20:09

the real one

20:09

And

humphrey is a good whale name

Molly (whose game Humphrey is from, and who lived inside of humphrey with her sisters) is on the same crew as bec trede

Alright alright

So we use humphrey as the giant whale (I can play him probably)

20:10

Wait crap that'd mean I have to make an alt

20:10

Oh well we'll cross that bridge when we come to it

20:10

Could see if zucchini has played omori actually

20:10

Either way

Wait so how would the two monsters actually exist together

Humphrey would exist in a different area than the kraken

20:10

Like his resting area could be like

20:10

that top area of the map

20:11

Or

okay well

20:11

actually

20:11

let's change it then

He could even be in a more central location but he's friendly until mcafee calls on him

humphrey is a thing on the map

20:11

but it's a bec trede thing

20:11

once bec trede learns her father's identity

20:11

she can summon humphrey to finish the job and fight on her side for idk 1 phase with 1 phase cooldown?

Oh I thought mcafee was the one who was summoning humphrey

well

So we'd change it to bec trede being able to summon him?

it'd be weird having him summon both a kraken and humphrey

20:12

RELEASE THE KRAKEN oh and also my whale

Oh I thought the whole idea here was

we could have a kaiju fight over here

20:12

well you tell me this double thing is your idea

No

okay so what I'm saying is

I wasn't suggesting having mcafee summon both

oh

I was suggesting having mcafee summon the whale

20:13

And have the kraken guard atlantis

I thought your whole point was you wanted to see mcafee say release the kraken

2 different things

20:13

I do but I care less about that than just having the kraken in the game

but in that case yeah I agree lesdodat

King Harkinian

What happens if one crew is about to fight mcafee right as another crew is making for atlantis

Having them both exist but with split purposes shields us from this scenario

20:14

So yea

20:14

Humphrey for mcafee, kraken for atlantis

gotcha gotcha

20:15

I dig it

20:15

let's say

20:15

mcafee once tried to go to atlantis

20:15

but narrowly escaped the kraken

20:15

and after that he looked for a way to summon humphrey

Sure

20:16

Humphrey is also a very hungry whale

yea lol

20:16

"i gotchu some tempura"

So one way mcafee could keep him placated is by keeping him fed yeah

this is good lore

Yes this is truly peak objective

20:17

coming up with lore for why John McAfee can summon the giant whale from Omori

all because of a character from a decemberists song

Precisely

Starting concept Sorry i really wanted to draw em in. Some way b4 game start lol

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starting some on sea tiles def gives us some breathing room

AMAZING

20:38

LOL

ty lol

21:39

what a sausagefest, am i right? *laugh track*

Damn... Everyone's offline...

lol

22:12

its aight maybe i can finally be useful lol

22:12

tho gotta finish the sheet first

Ping me whenever people can vc

I know it seems counterintuitive because I don't speak in VC

23:55

But if there's someone in VC and I'm in there I'm like

23:55

"yeah, I need to do something"

I can VC now I just finished dinner

23:55

Now in chat

Alright

23:56

I'm going to try and finish all my characters

23:56

Tonight

im goin to dinner now

Which should be Aura, Futo, Noah and Murasa right

@King Harkinian https://youtu.be/enRp4h3nQs0

MONONOBE NO FUTO

00:11

I want to see your reaction to this

00:12

true

00:12

As you can see, she really hates Buddhists (edited)

00:13

We should base her abilities on this

00:13

and this only

00:13

TRUE

Sorry I've been trying to find a specific video fro like

00:39

20 minutes now

00:43

Ah found it

00:50

Damn I think Discord is dying

00:50

I can't send messages consistently

00:50

I can't send messages in Futo's channel strangely

can confirm discord is fucking

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00:57

why do they hate us

00:58

why do they hate us

00:58

why do they hate us

Btw what we're thinking rn is

01:26

The UFOs for murasa are the main way of getting someone out from davy jones locker

01:28

If you have all 3 or 4 of them you can do a ritual wherever you are and choose 1 person to bring out from the locker

hm

01:29

thats a cool idea, tho idk how i feel about that being like the only way

Yeah fair point

01:29

I'm trying to think of a way that's like

01:29

hard and competition-inducing but also fair

yeah

01:30

maybe that could be the only way without any sort of drawbacks, but i think we should be able to have some near-surefire way to get back eventually even if it has a lot of drawbacks

01:30

cuz i feel we've kinda designed this game so far to cause a lot of death, and it is a long game

Yeah

01:31

The nice thing is

01:31

We don't need to worry abt it immediately

true

All we need is murasa's ability to get byakuren out which should be fine as is with the 4 fragments and ritual

01:31

and we can have 1 fragment be in Encino

01:32

so it's guaranteed to happen later

My other computer's sound is busted though so

01:32

I'll forgo getting back into VC

King Harkinian

All we need is murasa's ability to get byakuren out which should be fine as is with the 4 fragments and ritual

But again, should that be an explicit ability, or do I forgo completely resurrection stuff?

01:34

for her abilities

01:34

Because I was probably going to go ladle that cases rain and teleportation

01:35

(the anchor would be for May)

Well I was thinking they could both have anchors that do different things

01:35

But regardless, there could be a small note that she knows how to do the ritual as long as she has all 4 fragments

01:35

As a minor ability or skill

01:35

In addition to her main 2

Mind handling that yourself?

Uh sure

Because I'm unsure to go about it tbh

01:36

Anyways I'll go write up ladle and teleportation

What if we call colonial town Johnstown and pirate town Jeanstown

lmfaoo

Jeanston

02:24

eh I'm half falling asleep rn sorry

02:24

The deadline tomorrow should be one hour before game right?

02:24

so that we can send profiles

02:25

if you guys have any comments on my ideas for Aura, Murasa, Futo and Noah

02:25

post them in their respective threads, I'll take them into account tomorrow morning when writing their profile

Sounds good

Oh btw @Barbaros did you learn how to use the conditional view feature in your test game?

oh, yeah

03:04

theres a few ways to do it but overall its generally simple

03:05

basically its like this

03:09

for moveinstants: -add an instantconnect and a normal connect between the two areas - add a rule that states if you dont have the required item, you cant moveinstant into either (though if we want them to still be able to instantmove into abovedeck from land we'd have to split it into two rules with atLocation requirements i think) for the viewing: - two rules for each, they would be: -if atlocation abovedeck and hasitem [badge or whatever] then canview belowdeck - if atlocation belowdeck and hasitem [badge or whatever] then canview abovedeck (edited)

Ok makes sense

03:19

Do we think that uh

03:19

People could be able to moveinstant around a ship even if they're not part of it's crew?

well i wanted to say not within a ship

03:19

onto one maybe

03:20

but i think theyd have to stay generally abovedeck unless they take an actual movement

Interesting

03:20

I was thinking the reverse

just below?

They couldn't moveinstant onto a ship, but once they're on it they can move around it freely

ah

Idk though

hm, perhaps fair

03:20

yeah idk maybe we'll ask pop too lol

03:20

both are valid ideas

Yeah

What do we think about this for ms kye: The MS KYE is an airship! It can move across land tiles if desired. It cannot be hit by any attacks that come from underwater, and has an 70% chance of avoiding any projectile fired from a land area or waterborne ship. However, if the ship falls below 5 hearts, the rotors will take damage and the ship will have only 1 tile of movement until the rotors are fixed. If it falls below 2.5 hearts, the engine will take damage and the ship will be unable to move until the engine is fixed.

04:04

and for humphrey's dream (submersible word submitted): HUMPHREY'S DREAM is partially submersible! As a phase action, any crew member may temporarily submerge the ship. A glass dome will be raised over the deck. The ship will gain a +40% chance to dodge incoming attacks, and anyone on board will automatically investigate the depths below the current tile. (1 phase cooldown)

I like this, tho 70% is fairly high? Then agsin most of them arent planning to start fights i spose

04:11

Oke i gotta sleep now, would usually be later but i got a thing early tomorrow But hopefilly ill try to be back helping after

Cool

04:18

Yeah could reduce it

04:18

To like 65% which is close to 2/3

Aaargh I want to say we're starting tomorrow for sure but I don't feel comfortable doing it while not all profiles are done

04:35

I mean

04:35

I guess we could grind them out if we really had to

04:36

I'll give players notice that we'll probably be starting at 2pm tomorrow, AND if we have to delay it's not a big deal since most crews are probably starting at sea

04:36

And starting 3/4 crews at sea also gives us less need to delay (edited)

04:36

Since there's only gonna be 1 land area that needs to be ready

04:36

All we'll need is profiles and ship areas+images

shit where do we have the ship base images

12:26

oh yeah the in game channels

Yeah people posted them already

Actually people changed a lot of them in group DMs

13:04

but I have them all now

13:04

except for ms sky below deck which they never chose

wait what group dms

13:05

mafia flashbacks I wasn't aware of those LOLQ

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yeah lol they all made group DMs to design their flags etc

@Undyne is that true https://twitter.com/majorbean_/status/1490470311476748293

noah (@majorbean_)

racing game: Finish!

swedish guy on his ps2: ????Dra åt helvete finska

Jag är svensk

Likes

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Lmaooooooo

13:59

Why specifically ps2

Hey pop

14:00

In what font do Swedes swear?

14:01

Helvetica.

I mean

14:02

We also say helvetti in finnish

14:03

So it'd be funnier if you joked about finns swearing in helvettica

doesn't it mean hell's shit or something

Nah literally just hell

14:04

Paska means shit

14:04

Or skit in swedish

14:05

(skit is pronounced shit)

14:05

Or like

14:05

Schit

So

15:00

pulse check

15:00

How are we feeling about starting in 4 hours?

15:00

@Byakuren Hijiri do you think you'll be able to wrap up a couple more of those profiles?

I'm at da gym

FUCK

15:00

4 HOURS

Once I'm home I'll finish the area images

15:00

I got 2 done in like half an hour

15:01

So I should be able to do the rest in a couple hours

15:01

While I do that plas and you could set up things in the bot

Yeah honestly writting the profiles doesn't take that long

15:01

But we need to have the ideas so

15:02

yeah I'm still quite unsure for Murasa, Noah and Aura

15:02

Futo is basically done

15:02

I'll go shower, imma be back in like 1h

15:03

In the mean time you people can like see what we've already determined for those characters

15:04

and try and reflect on that for better ideas

15:04

phrased weirdly but kinda in hurry mode rn

I'll take a look soon

15:10

Also

15:10

Should we create new areas or repurpose the crew phase ones

Repurpose if we can change the ids

yea

15:21

Ok yeah no way to change an area id

15:22

So we gotta delete and create new ones

15:22

The question is

15:22

Should we do that for the ships too

15:22

Because rn they're like 1 2 3 and 4

15:22

that'll be hard for players to use in-game

15:23

so maybe we need to do ghostdeck ghostbelow kyedeck kyebelow discodeck discobelow humphreydeck humphreybelow

15:23

as new areas

Yeah I was thinking that

Well I suppose what must be done must be done

15:28

I'll begin the work

15:28

Once that's done we need to start sending out profiles

15:29

Which means we need to wrap the characters with polished abilities into their full profiles

15:29

We should send out profiles at 1pm if we're starting phase at 2

15:29

So we have 2.5 hours

I just got home so I'll work on the next ship images

aight back

For medusa, marina, and db cooper, should we delete them as characters?

King Harkinian

For medusa, marina, and db cooper, should we delete them as characters?

Did they all drop out?

Well medusa and marina are clowder's alts

16:10

That she was gonna play as a triple character but ended up deciding not to

16:10

db cooper is knight who did drop out

16:11

Also I just want to make sure we're all good with not having profile blurbs this game lol

16:12

I don't particularly feel like writing 32 blurbs, plus some of these profiles are basically at character limit anyway, and I think it's fine to forego them because their main purpose is to give some intro to the character (edited)

16:12

And this time we already have had that intro via pregame (edited)

16:13

Hmm I wonder if I should add DB Cooper into the description of the ghost king, so that he's just there in the background

I do not think we need blurbs no

16:14

as you said, pregame is plenty intro for their characters

King Harkinian

Hmm I wonder if I should add DB Cooper into the description of the ghost king, so that he's just there in the background

I think that'd be fun, have him just be sleeping

Lmao

"D.B. Cooper is asleep standing up in the corner. He's left his suitcase open by accident...It's empty."

16:19

Also hi lol im here now

Oh I had him sleeping in one of the ship's bunks but that's even better

16:20

Well I can keep him in a bunk but add the briefcase

I thought this said club cumming

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Are we sending out profiles one hour before game, or when game starts?

ms sky area images left but I'm going to go eat now

Byakuren Hijiri

Are we sending out profiles one hour before game, or when game starts?

Ideally 1 hour

So we still need profiles for murasa, aura, noah, may, and entrapta

17:29

@Barbaros were you doing may?

Yeah Plasman is supposed to be doing May and Entrapa I believe

17:30

Aren't profiles supposed to be sent in 30 minutes?

Well it doesn't look like that's happening

17:31

We can delay start time by an hour

17:31

To give ourselves an extra hour

17:31

And we can send profiles as late as half an hour before game start

17:31

Thereby giving ourselves two hours from now to finish them all

To be honest I'm a bit worried most people aren't online rn

Well you and me are at least so we can finish the remaining profiles if no one else is on

17:32

I can def do entrapta since I did the other shera character

For Murasa, so I should do the previous ability I had in mind with the ladle + teleportation

Sure yeah

17:35

For the ladle like

back home

17:35

I'll hack together the ms kye images now

17:35

then we'll have them all

You can either do the storm thing or the flooding thing, I'm actually ok with the flooding thing

17:35

But

Cause flooding makes more thematic sense

If you do the flooding thing

17:36

Make it like a weaker and more temporary version of jack's red miles in rot

No idea what that is

Not something that actually makes the area unusable

17:36

Basically just

17:36

Damage ppl in it and make the features of the area unusable until the flood recedes

17:36

But give it a big cooldown so she can't just spam it

Yeah but realistically if a boat is flooded

17:37

The water is not just going to disappear right

17:38

Maybe it could not do any damage

17:38

but it could just render the area completely unusable until it is emptied of water (unless you can breathe underwater)

Look

17:38

I know it's 'realistic'

17:38

But I hate that

Fair enough then

Maybe they can like

17:39

Empty it of water to make it return to normal faster

17:39

i.e.

Yes that's what

17:39

I'm saying

Well

17:39

You're saying it's permanent unless they empty it

17:39

I'm saying it's still temporary but they can empty it to make it end faster

How about it doesn't make the area unusable

17:40

but it makes the ship take passive damage each phase as long as it's not emptied

First off wdym by unusable

17:40

Like the features are unusable, or it can't be entered

People can still go there

Ok

and use the stuff in it

Here's the thing

17:41

The only place it won't automatically drain is if it's inside the belowdecks area of a ship

yeah

If THAT happens, then it makes the area unusable for 2 turns and makes the ship take passive damage for 3

I suggested for it to only work in non-outdoors areas

17:42

indoors

17:42

Yeah I guess what I'm suggesting is a bit too tunnelvisioned

Yeah like it can work anywhere, if it's outdoors or on a top deck it makes the area unusable for 2 turns but can be emptied to make it usable after 1, but if it's inside a ship it additionally makes the ship take passive damage for 3 turns if it's not emptied

17:43

While also doing the unusable for 2 turns thing

Got it

aight im here

Huge griefing type move but that's kind of murasa's character I think

the infamous griefer

17:44

puts lava in her ladle trollsmile

trollsmile

Give it like a cooldown of 4 phases

17:44

Or a max uses of 3 times

17:45

one or the other

eh I think a cooldown of 4 phases should be something absolutely devastating

ok yeah 3 phases then

17:45

that means it can be used every 4 turns which is fair I think

17:45

But a max usage of 3 times might make more sense

Well, her ladle is supposed to be bottomless

17:46

A counterbalance could be that her ladle could just be stolen

17:46

and/or destroyed

17:47

Maybe the ability itself could be tied to the ladle so she could give it to other players, but that might be a bit too OP

Give it a 3 phase cooldown then

Entrapta is done

18:08

@Barbaros you working on May?

i was just going through everyone rn and finishing the profiles of ones that need it but yeah im doin may

Honestly I'm going to slow rn

18:10

I can probably handle Noah and Murasa but someone should probably do Aura

18:11

also maybe someone should go ahead and put in something in announcements?

I will

18:15

So uh

18:15

How do we communicate to crews which tiles their ship is on

18:15

Should they each have their own like

18:15

announcement channel

Well

where we give them crew-relevant info

that's not a bad idea

We should also have some kind of like

18:16

tile numbering system

18:16

so captains can be like I want to go THERE

yeah so we can just say

18:16

you're on A4

18:16

or whatever

ya

also i found a science bar for ms kye below deck

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i think having images could be fun tho hm

18:16

i feel like ideally

18:16

itd be with the area desc

bitches be playing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battleship_(game)

Battleship (game)

Battleship (also known as Battleships or Sea Battle) is a strategy type guessing game for two players. It is played on ruled grids (paper or board) on which each player's fleet of warships are marked. The locations of the fleets are concealed from the other player. Players alternate turns calling "shots" at the other player's ships, and the o...

like in that post

18:16

but idk how exactly wed go about that

Example

18:26

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18:27

Then we go like YOU ARE HERE

niice

18:28

let's vc prior to game start?

Yes

18:28

Also

Barbaros

Starting concept Sorry i really wanted to draw em in. Some way b4 game start lol

no u dont u use my icons smh

18:28

pff

Well u better provide em as pngs boi

are we ok with these starting positions tho?

18:28

oh well yeah i was gonna just make em myself but sure

I'm ok with them though ghost king can't start on land

18:28

If we start it on the next water tile over then it

18:28

's still on beach right?

18:28

So I'll create the beach area

oh right lol

18:30

i was also considering moving humphrey up a space so they arent already in firing/spy range of kye, unless we wanted that p1

18:30

well mm i cant really move em up one

18:30

could do 2

18:30

yeah 2 is prob fine

18:30

again, unless we'd prefer having them close p1

@Barbaros if ur starting on the beach then u get to be added into the game this phase

18:56

do you want to add yourself

oh, yeah was i gonna start there? (Also are there chests in the area descs?)

You said you would start there but it's up to you if not

18:58

There aren't

18:58

The one on the beach would probably be buried

18:58

For the other areas we could add them in? But idk if we want them to be so obvious

fair also iirc i thought i was gonna start on the other beach lol

There's

18:59

only one beach

18:59

What other beach did you mean

well i meant sorta the town

18:59

but i guess that beach makes sense for me

Well do what you're comfortable with

i just dunno if ill be ready right away lol

18:59

but i guess its fine if i chime in a bit after phase start

so who're you playing again?

yeah you don't have to be on at all times

man

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where are the ships starting?

19:01

idk if i need to be in the game yet

You do't

19:01

don't

Barbaros

Starting concept Sorry i really wanted to draw em in. Some way b4 game start lol

this, but i gotta move cortez a space down and karl 2 spaces up

so I'd like to add the icons onto the tile-numbered map so we can post those at the start of the phase in each ship's main deck

19:02

do you have the icons

19:02

Or should I add placeholders

19:02

Or will you add them manually

oh, yeah sorry i uh i can add it in a sec

19:02

im just making lunch rn lol

Because there needs to be one for each crew

but makin it quick

should we give out the badge items before or after sending profiles

19:03

I'm thinking before

19:03

In which case I can do them now

i'm just gonna bring my alt in here now if that's ok

Sure

(it will be playing bones)

19:07

he's just gonna sit around in the bar

Cool

i'm not needed for more than one npc afaik so this is just to give the game a bit more personality

Npcs can reveal whenever you want btw

k

Whether today or tomorrow

19:07

I'll be revealing today

Barbaros

man

oh you're DOING the zak and wiki thing?

19:09

I don't think I've discussed the whole barbaros treasure thing once during the actual design period

This was agreed upon from the start that he'd be doing it yeah

19:18

We haven't really discussed it but it'll be there as a thing

19:18

Plas can handle it primarily I think

I have no idea how the quest would go

19:22

where's the body located? encino? atlantis?

I was thinking most of the body would be on the beach rn with me and a few would be missing One buried in the beach itself, one prob in atlantis, was thinking maybe one of them could just be floating around at sea somewhere, maybe aroundthe top area and another..idk maybe somewhere on the big island

Btw I'm gonna send out badges now

Imma take a dump and then hop on vc

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Alright

19:28

I should be done

19:28

Imma go eat

Ok so

19:29

We need to wrap any remaining abilities into full profiles

19:29

I think we have every character now except may, but some don't have their skill roles and player info added (edited)

19:29

And it's about time we started sending out profiles

i got ideas for may

19:30

just writin it out rn

I don't really have roles on hand rn

pins

King Harkinian

Template role descriptions:

**__Role: Captain__** As Captain, you may state in your action where your ship will go each phase, as long as you are aboard. You may also change your Crew Objective up to 2 times during the game, and your First and Second Mate up to one time each.

**__Role: First Mate__** As First Mate, you may state in your action where your ship will go, if you are aboard and the Captain is not. Each phase, you may apply a +2 roll bonus to either your roll or the Captain's, but not both. You become Captain if the Captain is killed.

**__Role: Second Mate__** As Second Mate, you may state in your action where your ship will go, if you are aboard and the Captain and First Mate are not. Each phase, you may apply a +2 roll bonus to either your roll or the Captain's, but not both. You become Captain if the Captain and First Mate are killed.

**__Role: Sailor (Lookout)__** As a Lookout, you gain a 40% bonus on all spy actions. While on board your ship, you automatically spy on the top deck of any ship 1 tile away with 100% accuracy, and 2 tiles away with 50% accuracy.

**__Role: Sailor (Surgeon)__** As a Surgeon, you can heal any character by 1 heart as a phase action. If aboard your ship, this becomes 1.5 hearts.

**__Role: Sailor (Gunner)__** As a Gunner, you have a 95% chance to hit your target on any attack action. While on your ship, you do an extra 0.25 hearts of damage with personal weapons, and an extra 0.75 hearts with shipboard weapons.

**__Role: Sailor (Cook)__** As a Cook, you can produce a boundless variety of food and drink items, each inducing different effects. In your action you may specify either what sort of meal you want to produce, or what you want its effect to be.

(edited)

here

thanks

I'm gonna start by sending out the ones I wrote

@Byakuren Hijiri @💀 can you make a pastebin or smth with your profiles with the raw formatting?

19:37

we are not going to manually do the formatting

hold on

19:38

**__Player:__** Tay **__Character:__** Noah **__Crew Objective:__** Take revenge upon Koeia's captor(s). **__Personal Objective:__** I've got one more job to do- I must keep Koeia alive, and keep Koeia from killing any members of the crew. I must act in accordance with the will of God at all times while doing so. **__Role: Second Mate__** As Second Mate, you may state in your action where your ship will go, if you are aboard and the Captain and First Mate are not. Each phase, you may apply a +2 roll bonus to either your roll or the Captain's, but not both. You become Captain if the Captain and First Mate are killed. **__Ability: On Dove's Wings__** This trusty little bird shall help you once again, not in finding land, but by delivering messages for you. At any time, you may send this dove to deliver a message to anyone on the map. Your correspondent may chose to reply to you or not, but in any case, the dove will return back to you one phase after you have sent it away. **__Ability: Holy Covenants__** At any point during the game, you may create a covenant with another player by slicing some kind of meat. A covenant is an obligatory promise for between parties. If this promise is broken, the one offending it shall suffer a sudden death. Additionally, you may also oversee the creation of a covenant between two parties, instead of partaking in it yourself.

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**__Player:__** Pablo Smith **__Character:__** Minamitsu Murasa **__Crew Objective: __** Celebrate plundering a ship or recruiting new crew members with a big party in Encino. **__Personal Objective:__** Find enough fragments of the flying storehouse to unseal Byakuren Hijiri. **__Role: Sailor (Midshipman)__** As a Midshipman, you gain a +5 roll bonus to any actions taken aboard any ship. Also while aboard your own ship, you deal 0.25 extra hearts of damage, can heal a player for 0.75 hearts, and automatically spy on the top deck of a ship 1 tile away with 90% accuracy. **__Ability: Drowning Sign "Bottomless Ladle"__** Using your ladle, you may flood an area for two phase which will render it completely unusable for 2 phases, unless multiple people actively try to uninundate it. Additionally, if that area happens to be the hold of a ship, it will inflict 1.5 hearts of damage passively for 3 phases, or until it is emptied. Of course, even if you ladle IS bottomless, it takes it some time for it to completely refill with water. Picture using it like flushing a toilet ; You will have to wait 3 phases of cooldown after using it to be able to utilize the ability once more. **__Ability: Phantom "Dipper Creeping Close"__** You phase through things pretty easily to you being, well... Dead. This allows you to teleport at will to any !moveinstant areas neighboring the one you currently reside in which you should not normally be able to access. Of course, you need to know said area actually exists to actually be able to teleport to it. This includes situations such as, but not limited to ; - Blocked-off paths. - Enemy ships in the same area as sea tile as you're in. It is to be noted that to access one such area, you may use a !moveinstant action. However, you will need to use a !move/!movespecial action to exit it and return back to the area you can from at the end of the phase (that is, if you desire to).

19:39

There

had to make a phone call will do so in a sec

@Barbaros and you?

just finished may

19:43

presumably

I'm sorry for being infuriating when making abilities Spaceman lol

19:47

Right yeah, should we reveal NPCs btw?

well i assume yall wont be in the game yet, so shrug

@💀 what's your call

well i revealed bones already

19:48

i think if we wanna reveal we may as well

Sure lets do that

19:49

since people are impatient

19:50

change your pfp Akk

-noah -miramitsu -twig -koeia -james pond -ianis -bec trede

__**Player:**__ Locke __**Character:**__ Pirate Demoman __**Crew Objective:**__ Take revenge upon Koeia's captor(s). __**Personal Objective:**__ Drink copious amounts of alcohol and blow something up. (In that order.) __**Role: Sailor (Gunner)**__ As a Gunner, you have a 95% chance to hit your target on any attack action. While on your ship, you do an extra 0.25 hearts of damage with personal weapons, and an extra 0.75 hearts with shipboard weapons. __**Skill: Drunken Master**__ You have an abnormally, almost comically high tolerance for alcohol - in fact, it’s less of a tolerance, and more that you’ve learned to work together. While drunk, you receive a +5 to all rolls, with none of the usual downsides, but you have a -5 to all rolls while sobering up. These periods last two phases and one phase, respectively, and happen back to back. They reset when you've had another beer to drink. __**Special Item: The Tide Turner**__ The broken steering wheel of a ship that has been repurposed into a shield. You may charge with the Tide Turner to gain a speed boost and dodge most attacks, as well as dealing 0.5 hearts of damage to a desired target with your shield bash. This item has two phases of cooldown. __**Special Item: The Scottish Handshake**__ Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum! You may drink the rum as an action, triggering your Drunken Master skill as alcohol would. The bottle may also be used as a melee weapon dealing 1.25 hearts of damage, but it would probably be wise to drink it first.

@💀 THE JEAN/JOHN BROTHERS

20:00

Technically both characters have the same first name

I said that

20:02

yall didn't listen :/

I did

20:03

because I said we should name the areas Jeanstown and Johnstown

-noah -miramitsu -twig -koeia -james pond -ianis -bec trede -pirate demo -vriska -quag -hasselhoff -scarlett -dodo (edited)

__**Player:**__ girlthulhu __**Character:**__ Vriska __**Crew Objective:**__ In lieu of a better rumor or lead, successfully retrieve what at least two thirds of the crew is looking for (Or have them complete their personal objective, if they seek nothing tangible). The tangible things are most likely found in the "Pirate's Nerve Center" described in the Tavern. __**Personal Objective:**__ At the end of the game, all players, GMs, NPCs, spectators, and anyone else who may have read the game in any fashion, should be asked if they loved, hated or had a neutral opinion on Vriska. The objective succeeds if no more than 20% of responses are neutral. __**Special Item: Fluorite Octet**__ An arcane set of 8 blue fluorite eight-sided dice. Rolling them yields practically limitless possibilities as to what happens next, including creating new items, and due to this, the positivity of your outcome is still determined with the d20 system. You’re very lucky, though, so you can more or less expect it to be relevant to your current situation. You will see the results of your 8d8 rolls during rollover, as these are tangible dice. __**Ability: Vriska Archetype**__ You’re literally VRISKA. Everybody either loves you or hates you, or in some cases, both, and you can’t get enough of the attention. You receive a +1 d20 roll bonus for every player/NPC who mentions you by name during the phase. __**Skill: Predestined F8**__ Any d20 rolls of 8 (before modifiers) are counted as 20s, and any d8 rolls of 8 give you a +1 roll bonus on your d20 roll. Are we still on the same page here?

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__**Player:**__ Superb __**Character:**__ Quagsire __**Crew Objective:**__ Establish ourselves as a flying trade center. __**Personal Objective:**__ Find some kind of hidden treasure, shipwreck or ruins underwater __**Ability: Water/Ground**__ You are a water/ground type Pokémon, which means the following: You may swim for as long as you like without drowning. You are immune to electric damage. You are extremely weak to grass damage. __**Ability: Unaware**__ You’re a bit dopey, but sometimes it works out to your advantage. Any roll modifiers for actions that target you are negated. __**Ability: Move Set**__ At the end of the phase, you may use any one of these four moves as an action: Dive: Use this to dive into the sea. If you find anything of interest, you will automatically obtain it or proceed to investigate it. Muddy Water: By sending forth a wave of muddy water, you may deal 1 heart of damage to up to 3 targets at once. Mud-Slap: You can slap someone to deal them 0.25 hearts of damage. Has a chance to cancel their action for the phase. Recover: ...Somehow, you can use this move. It heals you 1 heart of damage.

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__**Player:**__ Cerbera __**Character:**__ David Hasselhoff __**Crew Objective:**__ Celebrate plundering a ship or recruiting new crew members with a big party in Encino. __**Personal Objective:**__ Bring SpongeBob to Encino. __**Role: Sailor (Gunner)**__ As a Gunner, you have a 95% chance to hit your target on any attack action. While on your ship, you do an extra 0.25 hearts of damage with personal weapons, and an extra 0.75 hearts with shipboard weapons. __**Ability: Boat**__ You’re so good at swimming, it’s like you’re practically a boat! You may swim for as long as you like without drowning, and you can move through 2 water tiles per phase. Additionally, if you see someone drowning, you can rescue them by taking them back to shore. __**Ability: In the Flesh**__ You've amassed yourself an army of crazed fans over the years. You receive a +5 bonus to your roll if any players fangirl/fanboy over you during a phase.

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__**Player:**__ Liv __**Character:**__ Captain Scarlett __**Crew Objective:**__ In lieu of a better rumor or lead, successfully retrieve what at least two thirds of the crew is looking for (Or have them complete their personal objective, if they seek nothing tangible). The tangible things are most likely found in the "Pirate's Nerve Center" described in the Tavern. __**Personal Objective:**__ Pretend to betray your crew for another crew, then betray that crew. __**Role: Sailor (Gunner)**__ As a Gunner, you have a 95% chance to hit your target on any attack action. While on your ship, you do an extra 0.25 hearts of damage with personal weapons, and an extra 0.75 hearts with shipboard weapons. __**Skill: Compulsive Betrayer**__ You wouldn’t be where you are today as a pirate captain without breaking any and all of the promises you’ve made. You receive a +3 roll bonus to any action relating to backstabbing or committing mutiny. It was their fault for trusting you in the first place. __**Special Item: Greed**__ An elemental pistol of Jakobs corporation manufacture - certainly a rare sight. Deals 0.75 hearts of damage initially, and an additional 0.5 incendiary damage on the next phase unless the flame is extinguished. __**Special Item: Orphan Maker**__ Makes orphans. Often. A fearsome but cursed shotgun once belonging to the legendary Captain Blade. Deals 1.5 hearts of damage to your target, but also 0.5 damage to you. This item has one phase of cooldown.

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**__Role: Co-Captain__** As Co-Captain, you may state in your action where your ship will go each phase, as long as you are aboard, and if you agree with (or roll higher than) your Co-Captain, it will go through. You may also change your Crew Objective once during the game, and your First mate once.

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-noah -miramitsu -twig -koeia -james pond -ianis -bec trede -pirate demo -vriska -quag -hasselhoff -scarlett -dodo

SEND IT 8 TIMES

-karl -cortez -muskular -ceres -may

-patchy -inigo -edwin -carvallain -terraria -orla -entrapta -maerk -sea hawk -aura -monkey -steve -molly

did anyone say my name

20:43

I heard zel

20:43

sorry I wasn't listening

There's a Nintendo Direct?

Barbaros

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Hey, are the maps posted in earbot bitcrushed?

21:10

Or do they normally look this lowres?

21:11

Also, can we put all character abilities in the gsheets?

Oh yeah plas was working on that

@Undyne Should I know anything for Laffite lore?

21:16

Well firstly, Laffite needs to die

21:16

by the end of the game

21:17

We have trade relations

21:17

Makes sense since I'm smuggler

21:17

Also, what about Byakuren?

21:17

sure

21:18

She's sealed

21:18

@King Harkinian Wasn't the lore that Byakuren tried to convert the locals here in the past

21:18

and got fucked off away (edited)

21:19

Byakuren can be the Davy Jones

21:19

Since Byakuren is already the NPC in Davy Jones' locker

21:19

Byakuren's pretty nice though so

21:19

I doubt she'd try and trick people

21:20

She likes humans, she likes youkais

21:20

Yeah I guess, have a good one folks

We could either get davy jones at some point, or use barbaros

Also, can I play Laffite with my alt?

We'll figure it out

21:20

Play him with your alt and play byakuren on your main?

And Byakuren with my main

21:20

Yeah

I mean sure do what you want

did they add the switch alts thing already

21:21

or is that just nitro

Idk

Ok yeah idk why discord butchered my images lol ;;

21:27

Ill just post em again and pin those

They look fine to me?

21:30

If you open it up fully at least

21:32

@Barbaros are you sure they got compressed?

They definitely look different to me

Oh wait

21:33

Yeah comparing them they def look different

21:33

Idk what happened there lol

i think its cuz i tried to upload them in a batch, discord warned me abuot them being too big but then i just pressed enter again and it sent them fsr, not telling me they were compressed lol

Oh lol

21:34

Makes sense

Oh btw

21:45

@Pirate Lord @Master Mariner how do we want to post ship flags and ship healths when ships are near each other?? And as another question, should we announce the ship names and flags in announcements as a fun thing, or let them discover each other? (edited)

i think it'd be more fun for them to discover each other

hmm id say make the ship health just visible while on the ship, maybe in the area desc but we may as well just start adding that when they act start taking damage

21:47

And mabye the flag thing can be like, part of the area desc when ur near a ship? Like: You can see THE HUMPHREY'S DREAM in the distance, it's flag flapping in the wind. [flag URL]

Sure

yeah sure

finally got this

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I'm sure some players may not love it but in hindsight (or... current-sight?) i'm SO glad we started most crews at sea (edited)

00:08

-means we don't all have to rp from the getgo so we can focus on setup -gives us more time to implement the other areas -starting one crew on land means they're the 'guinea pigs' for us to polish how that works -gives crews time to explore their completed ships -gives them more of a choice for where to go first

lol yeah

00:08

the last two things were a couple i had in mind for my reasoning towards that

00:08

but it worked out well overall ye

Btw

00:15

What do we think they'll have to DO to get to encino

00:15

Like obv they need a map

00:15

But for atlantis you gotta defeat the full on kraken in addition to having the map (edited)

00:16

There should be some challenge to get to encino from the jungle once they have the map

Convo with sib

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Btw for tomorrow plz review area descriptions and comment on anything we'd like to add to them or tweak

03:33

To make sure we have everything we need and want

03:33

starting here https://discord.com/channels/850813217486929920/938849415307853854/939917583761694721

Gotcha

10:19

I moved game channels above design to make them easier to access (in my opinion), feel free to veto this

TBH it's fine as soon as the threads archive and stop taking up so much space in the channel bar lol

NO DISCODECK DOESN'T HAVE ME

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it's an older version

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let me fix it

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Pinned a message.

Should we reiterate with that announcement about movement that any land area a ship docks to will be moveinstant from the ship?

15:46

We should def remind captains at least

Probably yeah

imma uh try to make a checklist of stuff we need in all the areas

15:47

i will probably forget some things tho lol

@King Harkinian should I add balloons to area images still

prob should still have some

Yeah there are some in the colonial town right now

this is what ive come up with so far

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ok let's see

16:13

explosives can be built from a bunch of different things

16:13

ppl can buy them or trade for them

16:14

flying storehouse fragments I've already put in area desc templates, there are 3 or 4 of them I can't remember

16:14

flower will be in jungle

16:14

buried treasure will be on the beach

16:14

balloons will be in colonial town and maybe pirate town?

16:14

stepfather is mcafee

16:14

source of power could be in atlantis or encino

16:14

thing to lift all land is in atlantis

16:14

technological devices are in atlantis

16:15

you can probably get meat, fruit, plates, and alcohol from the pirate bar, or somewhere in the colonial town

16:16

fish tube is already on board a ship no? Why do we need another one?

16:16

So we really just need

16:16

-Skull Gem -Candle -Water droplet (I think she'll have to catch this in a storm at sea) -Barbaros chests -Skateboard

16:17

@Pirate Lord @Master Mariner do yall agree ? and do yall have any ideas for where to put these last few stragglers?

I thought buried treasure could be in encino

the only other things i havent put on here are any possible npc-related stuff not tied to me lol cuz im still not fully in the loop with all that

16:17

buried treasure could be there, yeah or it could theoretically be one of my chests too lol

The Skull gem could be Laffite's prize?

16:18

Since he's a pirate or something

laffite has a prize?

anyways the guy who imprisoned koeia is on the big island right?

I was saying skull gem could be in encino

the guy who imprisoned koeia is mcafee

mcafee yeah

Like, some kind of thing he keeps hidden

16:18

Or he traded with McAfee (edited)

and mcafee is there? sorry lol im not fully caught up on all that

mcafee is in the colonial town

ah yeah

johnstown

thats what i thought

you have the chance to spout out the first rumors

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What's the pirate town called?

oh ok yeah i could maybe do that

don't give them the answer

16:19

but like

i was possibly gonna say

16:19

"i havent heard of that, but definitelyn ot on this island

well

16:19

I feel like

though perhaps thats a boring clue

you could say

Barataria?

16:19

Skateboard can be in atlantis

"there's someone around these islands that talked about trying to catch sea monsters

Yeah, actually

Well I was saying it could be Jeanstown

The Skull Gem could be a part of Jean Laffite's treasure/treasury

16:20

as the head of a pirate town (and republic I would assume?)

I just changed koo's objective cause I forgot earlier

16:21

"make every island on the map float" instead of in the whole world

16:21

that's what we decided on

"Hm...I've known of many sea creatures in my time, hoho, but none by that name. But...I think I may have heard a tale or two about some fiend who's been going around trapping various monsters and earning ransoms from them around these islands." how is this (edited)

Oh that could be good

the good thing is

"Jean founded a new colony on Galveston Island named Campeche"

if both harkinian and mcafee are in johnstown

So it could also be called that

we can use that to misdirect people

16:22

make it unsure whether it's mcafee or harkinian

I think that you people may have actually like

ok i added "around these islands" cuz i forgot to lol

16:22

ill post this maybe

overfocused on McAfee though

16:23

Because not a lot of objectives are tied to Laffite

16:23

Which makes the colonial town significantly more important

You hold the map to encino

only two objectives are tied to mcafee and both involve killing him

that's your prize

16:23

Didn't we decide this

How do I know about Encino?

mcafee has the map to atlantis

16:23

laffite has the map to encino

you're much more important for spreading rumours and information than mcafee is

well you're a pirate

16:24

you'd have your ways to get treasure maps

16:24

but idk you're getting old and you want to find a worthy successor to give the map to

King Harkinian

What do we think they'll have to DO to get to encino

while we're all here can we discuss this at some point

Yeah but how do I relate to Encino right

I was thinking it'd be more about getting the map from laffite

16:24

well you've found the map to a legendary city

I'm a pirate sure, but I'm a smuggler first

16:24

(that was featured in pandaemonium too btw)

but you're getting old your back is aching and you want to find a successor or something

16:24

and that's why you want to give the map to the most worthy pirate

King Harkinian

Convo with sib

sib is also asking about an answer to this question

I mean if this is the Laffite from 1823 he's like

16:25

43?

oh I agreed with that spaceman

16:25

forgot to say

Right, what should I know as Jean Laffite?

16:26

Let's get into VC

So he can do an action belowdeck then movespecial into the lifeboat?

look I dunno what the specific year is, maybe the point is you want to retire from the adventuring pillaging business and be a smuggler leader first and foremost

hm, im being asked more about the person i was thinking of maybe giving a vague appearance clue, but itd have to apply to both harkinian and mcafee

King Harkinian

So he can do an action belowdeck then movespecial into the lifeboat?

sure

Don't do appearance

yeah no

ah ok

Undyne

look I dunno what the specific year is, maybe the point is you want to retire from the adventuring pillaging business and be a smuggler leader first and foremost

The plot is that people were sent back in time to an unspecified year during the golden age of Piracy

16:26

I think that's what we concluded, yes?

We haven't really established that

Now I'm confused

If it's a time travel thing then it'd be something they haven't realized at this moment

Because Spaceman told me we had established that

Well

16:27

maybe in design

16:27

but not to the players

16:27

they have no idea what the year is or anything

Yeah the players don't

16:27

shouldn't the NPCs though?

Not necessarily

Then how is it even revealed

I was thinking it'd just come up naturally

16:28

the NPCs are residents of this time

ok but really what should i respond lol id feel bad saying nothing at all

I mean, McAfee died last year though

so if someone asks what year is it (which I find unlikely to just come up) and they'd go "oh well it's the year of our lord 1823"

16:28

Mcafee can just be a resident of the times I dunno

16:29

this is objective we're allowed some historical revisionism

@King Harkinian Can you say something about this

oh uh

If he's the stepdad of bec trede that means he's not from the future

yeah uh

Because I'm like

16:29

confused because that's not what we said together lol

16:29

So either you changed your mind, or you two don't have the same opinions

the latter

16:29

we never coordinated on this

then I need to be briefed on this

Probably yeah

16:30

Let's get in VC if possible

so what I said to zel is that this takes place in 1700s, mcafee (from the 2000s) and laffite (from the 1800s) have both sort of time travelled there but have been there long enough to get established

Oh okay

And everyone else has time/space/dimension travelled there now

16:30

But

16:30

We have to be vague about it

harkinian should just be a resident of the times imo

LOL perhaps

dunno yet about undyne

Harkinian is a meme character anyways

well how about the technology doing this time bubble is in atlantis

Well, that could be it

16:31

But it could also be Byakuren

and one reason mcafee would want to get to atlantis would be to get back to his time maybe?

aight if nothing else im gonna say that the character is a man

just say he's an enigma or whatever

I'm feeling a bit like 3 GMs is the maximum possible amount of people

16:32

to get coordinated enough

Barbaros

aight if nothing else im gonna say that the character is a man

Yeah that's fine like ppl could be wondering if it's harkinian, mcafee, or laffite

Because we have already pretty large discrepancies in knowledge right now.

I think spaceman and I are more ready to imagine lore based on an original version of atlantis than something related to touhou (which we don't know anything about)

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Any more people in the design team, and I doubt it'd even be manageable.

dunno about plasman

Undyne

I think spaceman and I are more ready to imagine lore based on an original version of atlantis than something related to touhou (which we don't know anything about)

Well, there's nothing relating to that in Touhou either, but yeah I agree

It's not about size it's about alignment, if you had 10 people but everything was done at the same time in one chat or vc it would be more manageable than having 2 people that are on at completely different times and don't communicate well

I don't see this being some big hiccup anyway literally nothing has been done incorrectly we're just catching up on the lore we'll end up setting later in the game

Yeah

16:34

Aligning now is better than aligning halfway through the game

What if you're picked up plas

Well arguably there's the Izanagi objects in Touhou but that's in the sea of Japan so

16:35

yeah

16:36

I'm all for the Atlantis explaination

16:36

tbh for Byakuren it doesn't matter how long she's been sealed

16:36

because she's sealed - time doesn't matter that much

so laffite would have reason to work secretly with mcafee not just to keep up trade relations between the cities

16:36

but possibly to also get back to his time

King Harkinian

-Skull Gem -Candle -Water droplet (I think she'll have to catch this in a storm at sea) -Barbaros chests -Skateboard

going back to this, the skull gem coudl either be in Encino or depending on how their whole escapade goes and stuff it could be on the actual treasure island after they take out barbaros and get his ship either way not a thing thatd have to be visible right away for the chests, i was thinking one hidden in the sand on the beach, one just floating in the sea somewhere, one in atlantis, and the last one somewhere on the big island, not sure where tho (edited)

King Harkinian

It's not about size it's about alignment, if you had 10 people but everything was done at the same time in one chat or vc it would be more manageable than having 2 people that are on at completely different times and don't communicate well

Honestly, I guess I'm also reacting negatively because I tend to make up all the lore before the game, and this way of doing things is pretty foreign to my own creative process

i think the only things we maybe need to add right now would be the candle or skateboard im not relaly sure where in this sorta old-fashioned pirate world we could reasonably put a skateboard ngl lmao

Willing to see how it goes though, might be pleasantly surprised

its kinda anachronistic in and of itself

16:37

then again didnt stop botw from having a motorcycle i guess

well it's a fairly common trope to have modern items be 'ancient forgotten technology'

Well it makes sense in botw because it's more of a post-apocalypse world

I like reacting to players when coming up with lore

16:38

like in cat box

so the skateboard could be in a vault in atlantis, or even somewhere in encino since encino is a weird mix of ancient and modern

so I don't like thinking it all up beforehand and sticking to it religiously

King Harkinian

so the skateboard could be in a vault in atlantis, or even somewhere in encino since encino is a weird mix of ancient and modern

thats fair yeah, though i do somewhat worry we're putting too much in these things for the non-encino and atlantis areas to maybe not have as much to do in them lol

16:39

but i havent actually got a chance to properly read all of them so i could be wrong

I actually agree, maybe we should spread things out a little more

Undyne

I like reacting to players when coming up with lore

Yeah admittedly I do that too sometimes when there's certain areas I didn't consider For example - I never considered that the lobby was a part of the library from the library of Ruina

16:39

in DYAD

well maybe there's a way to build or acquire a skateboard

16:39

maybe mcafee has a skateboard

I mean

how about this

get some small wheels

16:40

a plank

16:40

you have a skateboard

but then I heard Pablo act like it was and I was like "oh yeah that makes sense, and it also explains why they can use their abilities in this cave"

people can get creative

she could -build it herself -get one of the scientist type people to make one for her -get it from mcafee -if all else fails we put one in encino or atlantis

I'd recommend not going that way for the skateboard, because I did this for the hot dogs in Moonlit for Sans

16:40

and that did not go well

16:40

Players will feel like you've forgotten about them.

Yeah that's why we'll have multiple paths

16:41

And contingencies

King Harkinian

she could -build it herself -get one of the scientist type people to make one for her -get it from mcafee -if all else fails we put one in encino or atlantis

as seen here

yeah what spaceman said is what I'd do

Hey who's up to commission one of the artists on this server to draw a scene from this game after it ends if there's one which marked us a lot

tbh i think the main thing im concerned with is - beach barring barbaros himself lol - jungle what do we have there

I'm a poor student

Byakuren Hijiri

Hey who's up to commission one of the artists on this server to draw a scene from this game after it ends if there's one which marked us a lot

I- im an artist..

You are?

16:42

didn't know sorry

nah its fine lol

16:43

i mean im no serra or anything but im still proud of this pic

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It's pretty cool yeah

though i have kinda wanted to draw at least something up regarding this game eventually

beach I was thinking would have vriska's bed thing buried there

we

Better than anything I could do lol

oops

jungle does need more

Put a fat amen break there

16:43

haha get it

16:43

jungle

i get it (edited)

16:43

jungle should have some sort of challenge for when they know where encino is

oh right area music did we scrap that

well you were going to do it

Could we make the forest like the lost woods?

Oh wait I forgot the area music for the ships lmao

where you have to go a specific way to arrive in Encino

16:44

So, make the forest like some kind of barrier

16:44

or puzzle

16:44

not much of an area

Ooh a puzzle

16:45

Yeah what if there's some sort of puzzle they need to solve to get access to encino, and there's a clue that's missing

16:45

so they need BOTH a map to know encino's there, and a clue

thatd be cool yeah tbh i have also considered uh

16:46

having an alt after all to play wiki

16:46

both to actually make sense to revive barbaros at the end and maybe he could contribute to that puzzle idk its an idea

pop can probably answer that better than me

well basically wiki can be used to turn creatures into useful objects

16:47

example

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16:48

oh yeah snake grabby thingy is a classic

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King Harkinian

so they need BOTH a map to know encino's there, and a clue

Or rather, the map could be the clue

16:48

Or there could be no map

16:48

and rather a set of instructions (edited)

but then youd be useless lol

16:49

oh well

16:49

i suppose

I can have the instructions

The map could have the clue on the back or smth

Maybe not something as advanced as that but yeah

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Oh btw what was your plan for the ianis red x @Undyne

my personal thought was like laffite would have the map but also thered be some sort of mechanism or something that you'd need a certain item for and a creature in the jungle wiki could turn into something that lets you operate it but also they could do whatever else they wanted if it worked of course not everything but arma could probably achieve the same effect, for instance lol

I feel like an item is lame though

16:53

"yeah if you have the item you can go there :)"

wiki is a character lol

It'd be better if it was an actual puzzle

i mean the idea is it would be

16:54

just potentially one that required something else

16:54

zack and wiki is a puzzle game lol

Oh sorry I didn't know that

nah its ok lol

King Harkinian

Oh btw what was your plan for the ianis red x @Undyne

I thought both atlantis and encino maps would be marked with an x

16:59

so it could be either location

16:59

or any other map that might be found in game

oh sure

16:59

brine has been posting the one they made though lmao

well that one is pretty close to encino right?

17:00

though its a bit inconvenient considering ideally for that group theyd be going to atlantis lol

uhh well if they made a map then sure I guess idk what map that would even be though

17:00

I saw it and I was confused

they made it before we made our map iirc

In that case I'd almost like to say it's not valid

17:01

because what relation does it have to our game board

its part of their objective tho lol

no it isn't

the x is about where encino is

Brine's objective does not necessitate them to make their own map

the map is in their objective

wait what

17:02

OH

Do something gay with another character (it cannot be anyone who identifies as a woman) where X marks the spot on this map.(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/769302503362658346/920860214683656243/IMG_20211208_044501.png). This has to be romantic in nature, in one way or another.

why tf did I miss this bigass link

17:02

Well that throws a wrench in everything

17:02

I didn't even realize this was a thing during design

17:02

I mean it does more or less correlate to our map even if the proportions are off

yeah its fine in that regard

17:03

and well hard to say if thats the jungle or encino i imagine we can pick

But it does lock us into one location instead of having multiple to choose from

but yeah i really wanted that group to go to atlantis lol

17:03

now we have what 3 groups that want to go to encino? as of current

well this is kind of unfortunate in the sense that brine's crew already kind of has a map to encino lol

17:04

or at least they will likely attempt to go in that direction even if they don't know what an encino is

17:04

which is why we def should have that puzzle element

the main issue is the jungle itself has like nothing of note without going to the big island first

17:05

maybe the jungle could have an instant back into the beach? but only one-way

17:05

so we dont have like

Undyne

why tf did I miss this bigass link

whoops I thought you were aware of this the whole time

everyone wasting like 2 or 3 phases seeing something they cant interact with

oh maybe

17:06

I mean look

17:06

I think for brine's objective the goal is 1/3 getting to the location and 2/3 getting someone to do something gay with

I think I was kind of in the mindset of the early objective which didn't have a map

17:07

sure

So

17:07

The location doesn't have to be encino

17:07

it can just be the jungle or the beach

17:07

A beach is indeed a romantic location

I just wouldn't want a whole crew to explore the island before they have any clue about encino or maps or anything

17:07

however the map brine has implies not encino but a western part of the island

i mean its a bit western it could just be the jungle still tho

17:08

we could have some sort of like pedestal or something

17:08

sure a bit weird for X to mark a spot like right next to an actual treasure but

also pizzie going off lmao

he isnt looking for treasure anyways

So yeah have it be beach or jungle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HR3Qr51ekU do you one better

Hiking Bernd - Urban Exploration and Outdoor

Jungle Beach - Sri Lanka

please

Also I just realized

17:32

Both players I gave personal economies (monkey buc and molly) are trying to use their crewmates to farm it

17:32

And if you count ceres as another personal economy character he's also trying to farm it but without help (edited)

17:33

We got some real gamers here

Should I get area music ready for next phase or do we scrap those

Up to you

17:35

I added in the ship area music retroactively today so there's no harm in adding some music now and some later if you want to

17:35

But I don't mind whether the areas have it or not

King Harkinian

I added in the ship area music retroactively today so there's no harm in adding some music now and some later if you want to

Do you use music files or youtube vids

Well for the ship areas I used youtube because that's how people sent them

yeah i think youtube overall is better unless you cant get a yt upload easily

Also here are the ship movements

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17:39

so far

17:39

no idea why dodo said e4

17:39

but he rolled higher than quagsire

17:40

who said g4

this is somewhat reassuring

17:40

in the sense that people are going to other areas, i mean

yeah lol

mind you kye is a bit confused

can they access pirate town yet then

i wonder if dodo meant d5

or is pirate town G4

pirate town is pink i think

17:41

oh wait no

no

no yeah its g3

pink is colonial

so colonial and pirate town will be opening

pirate town is g3 g4 f5 f6 g8 h6 i5 i3 and h3

Shouldn't pirate town be G4?

yes

its all of them

Pirate town is a go

wouldnt be surprised if ghost king is going to pirate town too

Any area adjacent to that island has access to pirate town

based on what theyre saying

what's in l4?

land

i4 is part of pirate town yeah lol

only ms kye can go on that tile

eh I don't feel like my Laffite is ready yet

???

or what exactly my purpose is this game

You run the town, you have rumours and maps and maybe some goodies, you control access to the pirate bar which has more rumours and information

17:43

You and pop should work this out since you're both in the pirate area

17:43

I can focus on stuff with akk

@Undyne

is there no one in the harbor?

I am in the harbor

ah

but

17:43

if no one goes to habor

17:43

i'll start in johnstown

fair

17:44

though i think johnstown has people going to it right now

pop won't be in the game until laffite gives someone access to the pirate bar

What's the pirate town called then

17:44

Jeanstown?

sure if you have no objections

I mean

it's funny if it's called jeanstown or jeanston if you prefer

17:45

but I don't particularly care what it's called as long as it's catchy

It's funny I guess, but then we could also make it a reference to Barataria

17:45

Sure I guess, Jeanstown, though Laffite doesn't catch me as the kind of guy to name a city after himself

maybe the citizens loved him so much they named it after him

Especially if it's a republic like I imagine it'd be?

well barataria could be the name of the republic

Sure

17:46

Republic of Barataria, Jeanstown

Nice

Or Baratarian Republic?

17:46

Piratical Republic of Barataria?

Free Republic of Barataria

17:47

or Sailors' Republic

17:47

would he call it a pirates republic outright?

17:48

Here's what I have so far

17:48

JEANSTOWN Welcome to the capital of the Free Republic of Barataria! No matter if this is your first time here or your fortieth, stepping into port here is an unrelenting assault on the senses. Brash colours clash on people's clothes, the painted wood of the buildings, and the wares and foods being hawked; voices clamour to be heard over both each other and the din of goods being loaded on and off ships; the scents of spices, liquor, and every walk of life mix in the thick air. You can probably buy or sell anything you want here, whether legitimate or ill-gotten. There's no sign of any laws or lawmen, and the emblem of the Jolly Roger can be seen everywhere if you look closely, whether painted on a doorframe or tattooed on a burly arm. It's found most prominently on the front of a large reinforced door, the sounds of revelry leaking out from behind it. Something small is flying around in the air up above! You can't tell exactly what it is. (edited)

i was thinking maybe we could have a candle here or johnstown so maybe we should think about that

So what am I?

17:49

The captain of Barataria?

17:49

The President?

17:49

Doge?

What do you think he would prefer to be called?

Mmmm

17:49

Well, no idea actually

17:50

But Barataria is inspired by Don Quixote (edited)

17:50

The name at least

That's actually wild

So, maybe Capitan?

That pirates in the 1800s were inspired by don quixote same as people are today

Or Patron?

What a legendary book

17:50

Sure

17:50

If either feels right to you

Yeah I guess the office could be called Patron

That is a great title yeah

Patron Protector of Barataria

do you have an idea of the pirate bar's name? the one crew wants to go to the "pirate's nerve center", so that could be what you refer to it as, but that's not a good actual name

Well, Jean Laffite ran a business at one point in downtown new orleans

17:52

So perhaps, "La Petite Orléans" ?

17:53

Also, I should probably have some kind of weapon on me right

17:53

Like a sabre?

Sure a sabre is fine

17:55

So far as I know you're the big shot around here, spending time in front of the bar to find that worthy successor to find encino and all that

17:55

and undyne is the bartender running rumors and stuff

"During his life he acted as a soldier, sailor, diplomat, merchant, and much more demonstrating natural gifts for leadership."

17:55

so I guess it fits

Undyne

So far as I know you're the big shot around here, spending time in front of the bar to find that worthy successor to find encino and all that

Do I really need to want to find a successor?

17:55

Most likely I just want to keep business running smoothly

Well

undyne working with a big shot??? deltarune chapter 3 spoilers????

I was thinking you're not looking for like a successor to take over the leadership

17:57

But rather, you're thinking of leaving the traveling life behind

17:57

and finding someone to find the treasure you're not going to look for anymore

17:57

does that make sense?

maybe you're too busy running the town to explore as much as you want and you would like to find someone worthy of undertaking the quest

or that, similar enough

I have no idea what you're talking about, what treasure?

17:58

Encino?

yeah encino

17:59

that's the map you have

17:59

as said before

Btw shouldn't Undyne name the bar?

oh sure

If she's the bar tender

17:59

or am I the owner

oh i almost forgot about reminders

at first we were thinking you'd be the owner

should we send them out now or in 30 mins

but maybe it'd be better if it's undyne's bar

or somethin idk

How about in 15 minutes

because you're like the governor position

that works

and you wouldn't really have time to run a bar

18:00

could just be a bar you frequent

18:00

but you can choose

Do I have a building for myself?

18:00

Like some kind of headquarters

18:00

Like "The Patron's quarters" or whatever

that depends on how we decide the mcafee thing

18:00

I was thinking he'd have an office room

18:00

that could be entered to discuss the map to atlantis and stuff

18:00

only if he unlocks it

18:00

so a similar thing for you could work

18:01

but I don't think other GMs really gave their opinion on that idea

Honestly considering that

18:01

the pirate town will be opened in 1 hour

it's possible a back room at the bar would work too?

or so

well the bar could be like your hq

18:01

considering you control access to it

yeah a private room in the bar might work

well you could just choose to make the bar private temporarily too

damn undyne is gonna have nothing to do until people are allowed to enter the bar lol

18:01

how about undyne is sitting in front of the bar before anyone's inside?

I just feel like you people are pretty disorganized in your area building to consider adding new areas like 1h before phase update lol

didn't you say you wrote up areas as you went along in dyad

i guess a candle could just be inside the bar maybe? dunno how itd be well, uh theoretically magical but

Undyne

didn't you say you wrote up areas as you went along in dyad

Yeah I did, but I already had a good idea of what I wanted, and the layout was already all planned

first of all, rude, second of all, I'm trying NOT to consider adding new areas since I'd rather not have more than the bare minimum we need

I understand you have different ways of running things but I'm a bit tired of you taking jabs at our organization

Agreed

As spaceman said, it's pretty rude

18:04

anyway I'm making some food, in about 30 minutes I can hop in vc so we can start the rollover planning

18:04

probably earlier than that

Cool

18:05

and @Byakuren Hijiri if ur gonna play jean on ur alt can u bring it in here

18:05

im trying to prep stuff for next phase

Undyne

I understand you have different ways of running things but I'm a bit tired of you taking jabs at our organization

Yeah I'm aware that it probably annoys you guys but at the same time, it also makes me a bit worried.

18:05

I'm sure it'll go well in the end though

King Harkinian

and @Byakuren Hijiri if ur gonna play jean on ur alt can u bring it in here

Right

I understand your worry, and I'd prefer to have things more organized beforehand as well

18:06

I tried to set up as much as I could in advance for that reason

I kind of feel like it's a bit my fault

18:07

because I could've done more

Not really, you did all we asked you to even if it was a little last minute

18:07

And you've been an active part of the discussions we've had on lots of topics

I guess it's just not as easy to realize the ideas of other people than your own

In a perfect world all of us would've been around last week to discuss all of this actively and do more prep

18:08

But at least it's happening now

Oh it's like that one Nas song

18:08

https://youtu.be/2U9bQbRrsV0

Lmao

18:08

true

just added the neco-arc account

But yeah I also think that for some things it is good to be a little more reactive, so that you can have flexibility if a player or players aren't doing what you expected

18:09

I prefer to be more proactive personally, to save myself the stress (edited)

18:09

But I can work both ways

Mmm... Nyes, life's a bitch and then you die. (edited)

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Yeah, you know what, maybe it's a good thing I can't confuse my alt for my other account.

lmao

mf holding the wine glass by the BOTTOM

I'm just built different, ubanya!

I'm going to kill someone

18:16

down to vc now

Anyways, how do you guys feel I should RP Laffite?

18:30

I've got a certain idea

18:30

but I don't have the specifics down

18:30

I was having the idea that maybe Laffite works with McAfee and pretends to be friendly with him because McAfee is the strongest person in the region

18:30

But he secretly doesn't like him

What's the difference between the harbor and colonial town?

18:39

Is the deal that the colonial town is way bigger

18:39

so it has 2 areas

18:39

Is it the part where they hang people

18:40

The more I hear about this game the more I'm hopeful

18:41

Right did anything interesting happen those phases

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wtf who spilled cheeto dust on it

Wordle 236 6/6 ⬛

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No idea what that is

18:59

Decibels are logarithmic

18:59

20 decibels is 10x more than 10

18:59

or something like that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd7gFgaZ6yc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=681_jg9mF2U

Moskau [German Schlager][+English translation]

@Barbaros where

@💀 can you help out with the vriska stuff shortly

yea

ngl Barbaros is just Pirate Exodia

True

no thanks lol

19:32

I'll do pirate town maybe

19:32

because that's the area I'm in

vriska roll

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19:40

total is 4

19:42

the octet should do something hindering then

19:42

like uhhh

19:43

the sword turns dull before she stabs molly

19:43

does that work?

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Tavern should be moveinstant

20:22

@Undyne

20:22

It should be moveinsant if you prove it though

20:28

@King Harkinian My alt still has the landlubber role

oh yeah mine does also

How's the rollover going on then?

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20:52

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Yeah I'm ready

20:55

Do I need to rp immediatly?

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20:57

Humphrey flag iirc

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"You can see THE GHOST KING nearby. Its flag flies in the wind."

Right, so when's the update? Right now?

21:02

"Sources indicate that Lafitte was sharp and resourceful, but also handsome and friendly, enjoying drinking, gambling, and women"

21:02

"He was known to adopt more aristocratic mannerisms and dress than most of his fellow privateers."

The chad pirate.

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@💀 don't give out the quest for atlantis like all willy nilly

21:30

think of it as a business agreement

aight

21:31

any other lore things i should know about?

We went over most of it yesterday

21:32

hope you remember

21:34

you do remember your deal with bec trede right @💀

deal?

like your relationship to her

i don't want her finding out our relationship tho

yes

21:34

good

21:34

that's what matters

21:34

you want to hide it

should i give them a clue as to where atlantis might be?

21:38

still making a business deal ofc

nah not yet

21:38

but you can kind of hint at that you might be open to discussing a quest to find atlantis

21:38

and that you might have information about it

21:38

but like

21:38

make it moreso if they ask

21:38

instead of initiating it too much yourself

How do I make them prove their worth?

21:52

I've got no clue how to tbh

uhh it can be something that's done just this phase

21:53

or at the latest next phase

21:54

maybe I can decide it so it can be more jokey

We should have a piano in the bar

21:58

That'd be fun

sure yeah

22:01

@King Harkinian @Barbaros should we let koeia use the charted routes to move in one rollover to either jeanstown or johnstown?

Yeah

22:02

She should have 2 swim tiles so that should be doable

gotcha

22:03

well

22:03

my point is

22:03

if she has 2 swim tiles she can't do both if she wants to

22:03

it depends on which exact tile she is on

22:03

and we didn't actually decide that

22:03

I was thinking she could use the charted routes if she's here

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Well I was assuming she counts as being on the same tile she was before

22:04

E6

22:04

So

ah

She could go to jeanstown

well that's not actually a land tile

Well didn't we say that like

22:04

She counts as being in the water next to the land

ah

So that she doesn't take damage by just hanging out in the area

right okay I get the logic now (edited)

22:05

should I send her location to her tho

Yeah

what kind of business deal would i be making here?

22:12

should i just say i'll pay them handsomely to kill the kraken for me

Hmm

22:13

Maybe hold back on mentioning the kraken specifically?

22:13

Like

i'll just say that something is guarding it

You could even try and be coy about how dangerous it actually is

22:14

like

22:14

'oh I need you to go that way and investigate it for me'

22:14

idk tho

22:14

Depends on how u want 2 play the character and how much u want to give away rn

22:15

Maybe you could even ask them to prove themselves to you somehow before you trust them with the map

i'll say there were rumors of something lurking around down there, and say i'll pay them to investigate

22:15

knowing full well it is very dangerous

makes sense

22:15

but asking them to prove themselves to you isn't a bad idea too

22:15

since like

22:16

if you give them the map now

22:16

they could be fighting the kraken in like 2 phases

22:16

which seems a bit early

hmmmm

22:17

prove themselves how tho

what would benefit you?

22:18

or what would be aligned with your goals?

22:19

or what would you find fun to get someone else to do?

I wouldn't talk about the kraken

22:19

let it be a surprise

22:19

you can backtrack and just say atlantis is lurking down there

I still think johnstown and jeanstown with john mcafee and jean laffite is the funniest shit I've ever seen

Am I doing a good job?

Yeah you're doing great

23:11

No one has noticed steve stealing the key lmao (edited)

Also, if you have any advice to help me improve my Laffite roleplay

23:34

don't be affraid to give them

23:34

ADDITIONALLY, do people ever blank on some words when roleplaying?

yes

that sucks innit

hmmmmmmmm

23:39

looks like i'm probably gonna be giving the atlantis map to karl then

Don't do it this phase bitch

What if we made sib's duel ability into a free action?

00:09

I still think they're abnormally picky about it because I think people are totally willing to play along with it if it's used creatively

00:09

But that'd help alleviate some of his apprehensions

00:09

But just imagine putting two people to duel about like, who gets to say the most pirate puns in a phase

00:09

Who gets to find a secret treasure first

00:10

Who gets to steal another ship's flag first

00:10

Like am I crazy or what I think this is a great ability

00:10

It's a mobile taskmaster essentially

00:11

Like channel a bit of that mario party energy you know

00:12

Anyway what do you think @King Harkinian @Barbaros

Yeah make it a free action

00:12

It probably should've been one to start with

00:13

TBH he should have also been able to give out something basic as a prize too by default

Kind of had that in mind but it didn't pass the telephone barrier

I disagree with that but if itll help their experience a lot then sure (edited)

Eh idk about the prize aspect

00:13

The only thing that comes to mind would be like it gives the winner a mechanical bonus like roll or hp or whatever

Yeah no i mean the free action thing

I found it better to let sib themselves figure out prizes

Fair enuf

Am I insane

00:17

How do you edit a specific block of a profile

There

I think I'm handling this OK? I'm basically giving muskular a chance to become a captain if he puts in a bit of effort

00:58

And gets ppl to help him

Okay they established Byakuren was sealed AGAIN

04:57

so I'm going to spin it into something funny lol

really happy with how you're doing this spaceman good job

Thx

16:21

Btw I'm thinking we maybe have like a 3-step puzzle for encino

sure sure

16:25

atlantis would have a couple of steps for the boss battle

Or 2-step

16:25

Yeah

16:25

And oh btw

Thinking you can't beat it with one ship

Yeo

16:25

yep

16:25

Exactly

what btw

Well it's abt encino so I'll say it next

16:25

First

16:26

I was thinking that if the one crew gets the atlantis map really soon and goes there early, it'd be really perfect to just have the kraken show up with a hugely powerful attack to immediately make them realize they need more help

yeah that's what I was thinking

Sweet

16:27

As for encino I thought it would be funny if one of the puzzles was a wordle

LOL

AVAST

16:27

BILGE

PLANK

YARRR

triple letter is something not even the real wordle has tried

Exactly

16:28

It's genius

16:28

Oh how about we change the word's difficulty depending on how early in the game they try it

16:29

Which fits perfectly because the wordle solution is different every day

16:29

It could be a different answer every phase (I'd imagine the actual puzzle would be done during rollover, since having up to 6 phases on one puzzle would be insane)

16:30

Though that could be a bit much

how would they even do the wordle in-universe

They could just agree on a word and then we as gms would post the results of it

16:32

Btw pop what are ur thoughts on possibly having like a legit zack and wiki puzzle in it lol

one guess per phase?

16:32

that'd be insane

Nah

my thoughts are zack and wiki puzzles are very gamey

Itd all be during tje phase

idk how you'd turn one into an objective form

Idk i was just sorta thinking thered be some mechanism theyd need to figure out and they could wiki some sort of creature in the jungle to get the tool to accomplish it, or without wiki they could just try to figure out some other way

I think you'd need to workshop that a bit more

16:35

One thing I learned from catbox is that puzzles are kinda hit or miss

16:35

if they're included they need to have a lot of ways to be solved

Yeah

So side question - whether we have 2 puzzles or 3, and regardless of what they are - should the first puzzle be somewhat visible to anyone who enters the jungle, or should it only become visible if someone has a map (and can thus navigate through the jungle enough to find it)?

Well if a puzzle is visible it should have an immediate reward for finishing it

16:38

So unless we can come up for something for each im leaning towards the latter

16:39

Once they get the map they should prob know to get to the jungle tho

16:39

I think encino can be more straightforward but they gotta do stuff to accomplish it And atlantis is just more hidden but when u get there ur sorta there

Yea makes sense

16:40

Should the kraken be an NPC or is it just gonna be "there" in the same way a ship is

Oh right thats a thing

Hmm

Idk i think we have enough npcs and its more of a beast than char lol

Bosses can just be a part of the area tbh

16:41

unless someone really wants to play a kraken

Lol ye

We could see if zucchini wants to play the kraken but eh

16:42

Humphrey would be more likely to actually be a good npc since he actually has a character, but he could just have a couple of lines during rollover rather than be played as an NPC

16:42

and making him not an actual NPC means it's easier for bec trede to use her +5 skill (edited)

16:43

Since roll bonuses kind of become less meaningful when you're interacting with an actual live npc

16:43

So yeah no boss npcs

16:45

Oh snap twig is alive!

yeah koo was DMing me about moveinstant and stuff

should we make some kind of a ticket/token as a way to give players access to the bar? @King Harkinian

16:57

sounds like the easiest way

Probably yeah

how about it's like

16:58

a blue eyepatch

Sure lol

Do you expect people will be entering the bar next phase? @Undyne

17:05

If so we should prep an areadesc for it

I think we should yeah

17:08

I can write it too

Nice

How exactly did we plan to have vriska god activate god mide

17:30

MODE LMAO

GOD MIDE

17:32

She needs to use her quest bed or whatever it's called

17:32

And maybe she needs to die on it?

17:32

My idea was that it'd be buried on the beach

17:33

As a callback to ariada's bed being buried in the desert in RotR2

17:33

@💀 does that sound right to you?

My only thing is how in the world is she gonna know to do all this lol

17:34

She doesnt even know she needs that, let alone where to find it

That works but idk how we lure her over there

Have we reminded btw

18:28

oh yes we did

I HATE BACH I HATE BACH

18:38

18:38

I played it at like

18:38

2/3 speed compared to what it should've been (edited)

18:39

And I still messed up and had to slow down a bunch

18:39

But hey

18:39

It's an 8

do you wanna start vcing now

Yeah

I'll be making food but I'll be ready for writing rollover at 9

Nice

18:40

I'll be eating food but I can start on some rollover notes once you join vc

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vriska moment

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19:29

anyway she succeeds in summoning a weasel of unusual size which then runs off into the town

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reminder to put bones in the bar next phase

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20:04

So

20:04

-ghost keeps access to jeanstown, loses access to ms kye DISCONNECT ghostdeck kyedeck, remove spy connection rules for these (edited)

20:05

-ms kye gains access to beach, loses access to ghost ADD connection+rules for beach

20:05

-humphrey keeps access to johns, gains access to harbor and monkey ADD connection+rules for harbor, ADD connection+spy for monkey

20:06

-monkey loses access to jeans, gains access to johns and monkey DISCONNECt discodeck jeanstown, ADD connection+rules for johns, ADD connection+spy for humphrey

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@Pirate Lord put me in da game

@Bones can you be an arms dealer

20:45

I already said there's shady dealers in the area description

20:45

you can have some stolen loot or whatever if people ask

sure

@Jean Laffite you're up as laffite in the bar this phase

20:46

to negotiate

@Undyne how about we say they can move back to G4 without incurring the cooldown for their movement bonus

wouldn't that change the entire phase though

Since technically them being in D3 instead of E2 means that they'd have to use the wings just to get back to G4

20:59

No?

20:59

It means they can get back to G4 next phase

oh you mean

20:59

next phase

20:59

yes in that case sure

Without activating their cooldown

20:59

Yea

I thought you meant like

20:59

right now lol

21:02

@King Harkinian wait aren't ship supplies being sold in johnstown?

21:02

akk is saying they're sold in harbor

21:02

or am I mistaken

Both

21:02

If akk is saying they're only sold in harbor, it's misleading

@💀

ok

Because steve has been told that he can buy a sail in johnstown

21:02

by me

It's come to my attention that, despite my asking to be put in the game, nobody has done so yet. Curious.

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please

there you go

Also amal is asking if he can "switch sides"

21:06

presumably meaning formally join another crew and get their crew objective and ship access

21:06

We should probably publish crew switching rules

I say it requires the captain's approval

So there's a formal process

21:06

Yeah

21:07

"If you wish to join another crew, and thus replace your Crew Objective and ship access with those of that crew, it requires the mutual consent of you and that crew's Captain. It must be officially confirmed as part of your phase actions." (edited)

21:10

Should I ping @ seafarer about the update (edited)

21:10

or nah

fine with nah

yea solid

just realized neither of the people who saw the chest in the water mentioned it at all i dont think oooohhhhh

oooohhhhh

what kinda stuff am i selling

21:58

i was thinking mostly swords

21:58

and maybe a few flintlocks

probably yeah

Have we still not decided where the skull gem is

i thought it was in encino

Oh yeah that makes sense

yeah encino

22:05

unless you wanna change it

22:05

but I've been rolling with that

nah encino is good

cortez is asking about me joining his crew

22:09

from a gameplay standpoint we probably don't want that?

22:09

i can make up some excuse about having to pay the tavern bill first

I mean I thought you just wanted to be sitting in the bar all day

22:14

We didn't really plan to have another NPC actually go around doing important stuff

yeah i want to be able to give people info on mcafee

22:15

wrong account lol but you know what i mean

well that's zel's thing

oh it is?

zel's the informant in jeanstown

22:15

that's laffite's purpose here, he has the map to encino

22:16

and also has a close relation to mcafee

22:16

you have a behind the curtain deal going on to ensure steady trade between johnstown and jeanstown

so then lafitte wouldn't rat him out on the captor thing or the dad thing

nope

that's bones' job then

you're working together to a degree to get people to uncover encino and atlantis for your own benefits

right

why would bones know that?

22:17

who is bones?

as mcafee i confiscated his ship

22:17

and he doesn't know for sure but he was around mcafee for a while so the best he can give is a "probably"

@King Harkinian what do you think

22:18

how far should this character go

22:18

I thought bones was just a throwaway lol

nah

22:19

like, he could have a lead about the dad thing because he saw mcafee with a woman in each arm when his ship was taken

well I was thinking

22:19

what if bones was even on the crew that captured koeia

22:19

and because he knew too much about stuff like that he was kicked out here

22:20

I wonder if that's too easy

22:20

in terms of giving info to the players

prob too easy

maybe it's better that you have that lead that you said

yeah

because right now you couldn't directly even give it to bec trede's crew

his lead on koeia would be that he overheard mcafee talking about sea monsters

maybe maybe

22:25

should we give koeia a visible item to show she's in water and not on land

22:25

or is that not worth it

@Bones maybe you can hint that you've heard laffite murmur the word "encino" in hushed tones in the bar previously?

22:37

to make them want to talk to zel later

22:39

and @Byakuren Hijiri whenever you're ready to go to the bar as laffite to discuss matters feel free

Right sorry I'm eating mapo tofu rn

yes I saw

Undyne

@King Harkinian what do you think

Idk lol I also assumed bones was a throwaway, but whatever we think he works best for is good

Undyne

and @Byakuren Hijiri whenever you're ready to go to the bar as laffite to discuss matters feel free

nah sorry I'm drunk now

23:13

tomorrow

Lol okay

23:13

Why did you get drunk

Why not?

So superb is asking abt going back onto ghost king from jeanstown as moveinstant

00:21

And it raises the q of whether we should let ppl moveinstant back to the ship they started the phase on if it's not their main ship

00:21

I'd say no

00:21

Bc

00:21

SO much more bot work

00:21

And

00:22

Keeping it as is gives players SOME incentive to go back to their own ship

00:22

But wdyt

Yeah im inclined to agree, tho its a bit unfortunate here given they didnt know

00:34

Id maybe say let them have like one free moveinstant back as like a fixplayer if they want but not again

superb is currently asking about swimming to their ship in 2 phases

00:44

i imagine thatd mean theyd just be in open water for a phase, so im a bit unsure

00:48

@King Harkinian

sorry for being too drunk to rp

its ok

00:54

anyways also apparently superb has a spy connection to the area he is currently in

00:54

not like super pressing, but odd

00:54

im not sure why hed jhave one to jeanstown in the first place

It's because of the way the walkie talkies are set up

i figured

02:07

anyways thoughts onthe above stuff?

Well we do have that one open sea area

02:57

We could use it in a pinch

It's up to superb in the end

10:53

I wonder how we should deal with the mcafee stepfather thing this phase?

10:53

Pizzie is deliberately asking about it in the game channel

10:53

I'm thinking of the best way to go about it

@Byakuren Hijiri you're kinda needed this phase still

gimme like

16:38

20 minutes

Alright let me read up

@King Harkinian Should I tell them about Encino?

@Jean Laffite I say yes

17:39

At least probe them if they're worthy

The phase doesn't end in 35 minutes does it

75

You can be like "I might have a map to a place where you could find that skull gem you talk of"

er

17:39

80

1h 20 mins

17:40

But go inside the bar @Byakuren Hijiri

Sure

uhhhhhhhh

17:48

@Undyne Do I know of the Skull Gem?

Not specifically

17:50

But you know encino probably has riches like it

17:51

(it does have it)

I'm gonna give a 1hr reminder in five minutes

17:55

Also

17:55

I'm going to be on a date at 2pm so yall should either do rollover without me or delay it

Aite

18:06

I was planning on going to a party at 4-5pm soooo

4-5 my time?

I'll start rollover with plas at 2

18:06

Yeah

ok cool

18:06

I can wrap up anything yall aren't done by the time I get back

And work until 4-5

18:06

Aite

18:07

Good luck brother

Thx

You got this

18:07

Put on the bath robe

LOL

@Jean Laffite btw we can give the map during rollover so u dont need it yet

sure

@King Harkinian we'll also need to add instructions for the puzzles too

Yeah

18:14

So uh

18:14

Let's see

All of them??

Well

18:14

Doesn't need to be specific puzzle instructions

18:14

Just like

Not all

18:14

We can also be like

18:15

"the answer to this lies in johnstown" or whatever (edited)

I love that when the disco crew reunites with 404 he'll be like

18:16

'yo i got us the map to encino'

LOL

I have an idea

18:19

Can I cut a deal with Cortez by making him turn down the map for some info on Koeia's captors?

Ooooh

18:20

That's genius

18:20

Do that

Careful though, bones has a lead on the captor thing also

Btw

18:33

fun fact

18:33

the King is known to have taken the Triforce of Courage with him on his travels

18:34

If you weren't privy to his like 3 lines in wand of gamelon

18:34

Time to bust it out

18:34

So that my ship doesn't get busted up

@King Harkinian Would you happen to have this map without the secret areas revealed?

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18:35

or like, only colonial town and pirate town

I think this would work

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Thanks

@King Harkinian how's the harbor ship gonna work?

18:36

Will it become a new ship area that's docked in the harbor?

18:36

do we have to update player roles and stuff

So

18:36

What I'm thinking is

Id say prob yeah

The new area will be created (it will just be one area, not two, bc screw making it two)

18:36

It will be docked in harbor

18:36

BUT

18:36

the official roles and stuff won't change until they officially do everything next phase

18:37

The ship must exist for the crew roles to change and such

18:37

So they can say 'I'm joining this crew'

18:37

this phase

18:37

But next phase will be like

18:37

When profiles change

Okay so this rollover we won't make a new team yet

Yeah

gotcha

18:38

will they be able to enter the ship next phase already?

Yes

or only when they establish a crew

18:38

okay

18:38

so everyone can enter the ship

It should either be moveinstant accessible to everybody or we should just make the badges and nothing else

let it be moveinstant to everybody until the badges have been created

18:38

which will be after the team is created

Sounds good

So what about karl's action about removing everybody from the team

18:41

we didn't establish that as a thing captains can do

18:41

so I'd like to say that's not possible

Yeah

18:41

But two of them are lesving voluntarily anyways

18:42

Idont actually know who that leaves

18:43

Oh yeah scarlett

18:44

Yeah id say scarlett stays for now

18:44

Unless she decides otherwise too

Also I feel really bad bc steve has a great action and rolled well but waffles is cancelling it

Yeah..

mr dolphin should definitely have a cooldown on being able to do that

Yeah i mentioned that in shipsrecords

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-club-penguin-dance-3d-gif-23310835

18:46

@Bones

18:46

You're ruining my

idk about bones' role right now

deal

Itd be better if she needed an existing combo to use it

18:46

But id feel bad changing it like that now

plas spaceman should bones be able to undermine laffite's deal

18:46

cause that's not what we planned for

no idea

well i don't know for sure

18:47

it's just a lead if anything

well shit who gets the map now?

Didnt laffite roll a 1

idk tbh I didn't hear about bones' role in the game until he was put in lmao

Barbaros

Didnt laffite roll a 1

I didn't roll.

idk who was talking about that during design

Oh mcafee did i think

I think for now

18:47

laffite can silence bones

sure

with his authority or a threat or something

18:47

and if they can get bones alone or something they can get his info but that's unlikely

18:47

so you can keep going as normal zel

can we extend the phase

18:48

like

18:48

a bit

we'll see

I don't know if I'll have time to wrap up everything

Stuff can go into the rollover too

I have an idea

18:57

Give them Bones

18:57

Like, make Bones accompany them

18:57

and help them

18:58

@Undyne You should have closed the bar

oh I didn't realize you wanted that

18:58

I thought you were gonna bring 404 back at some point

18:58

my bad

Also @Undyne please don't lock in jeanstown either

yeah I said that

we're going to be walking out to give the map to 404 after

@Barbaros rollover vc

yeye

19:01

oh boy

everything other than jean and poisson are locked now

@Undyne Did you lock the access to the bar?

19:06

I don't want people reading up

19:07

@Undyne The Terraria Pirate just WENT in there

19:07

I hope he didn't read anything

19:07

No

19:07

I need to do stuff

damn the phase ended literally a second too early uncomf

uncomf

you can still movespecial to jeanstown I think

19:08

if you really want to

@Bones Get your ass in jeanstown

I thought you were planning to just stay in the bar though

move them there then idc

19:09

geez GM abuse

i was but change of plans

wdym change of plans

i'm on the ghost king now

no I'm pretty sure you literally can still moveinstant

19:09

because jeanstown isn't locked

19:09

unless moveinstant gets blocked in the area where you start from

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oh I'll move you

so joining the ghost king would be the in character thing to do

19:12

there are a few problems with that though

@Undyne you may lock

1, i was going to hint about bec trede's dad for anyone who inquired, which is easier if i stay in one place

19:14

2, there's now a pile of weapons lying around in the bar, but we can handwave that by saying the other patrons took them

So @King Harkinian we're gonna need to design a way for Laffite to help Cortez and his crew ruin the colonial town

19:14

Also, we're probably going to have to design like

19:14

pillaging a town

spaceman ain't answering anything for a while

yeah but I'm telling him

19:14

cause he needs to know

19:14

that's some important stuff

why do we need a town to be pillaged aside from players just stealing stuff themselves

19:15

Like that can just be done by players manually

would probably be easier that way yeah

Undyne

why do we need a town to be pillaged aside from players just stealing stuff themselves

well yeah laffite wants the colonials GONE

19:19

he doesn't want them mildly inconvenienced

19:19

and afaik I made that pretty clear to Cortez

19:19

so they're probably gonna try that

if the crew decides to fuck up the town really bad we just edit the area image accordingly

yeah

Players can figure out a way to do that, we don't need to design a specific mechanic for it rn

19:20

they might even use technology from atlantis/encino idk, but they def have resources to build ship weaponry to fuck shit up

Yeah I'm not saying that either

19:20

I'm just saying we need to consider it a bit

no bonus from octet, roll total is 8

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19:29

the dice give vriska a can of spray paint with "ms. paint's" branding. she writes a :::;) on the side of the fence around the compound, which begins to fade as soon as she walks away

@💀 are you going onto the ghost king

yes

you also need to like put in your action if you want to become a part of its crew

💀

yes

no you're not dickhead i am

19:30

if i'm an npc do i still need to formally claim a role

idk do what your heart tells you

19:30

probably not

ok no then lol

I'll just make you a part of the crew

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The atlantis map has not been given to vriska yet, confirm with spaceman before giving it to her

@King Harkinian can i hand it over

20:42

i already made them wait a phase at GM behest

20:43

wait i got a nat 1 on giving her the map LOL

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20:48

just made this I had nothing else to do

💀

@King Harkinian can i hand it over

you did hand the map over?

20:49

or like

20:49

you did so in the rollover

20:49

we're waiting for spaceman to confirm the maps

20:49

I overrode the nat1 because it's an important npc thing

oh i thought you were asking me

oh lol

20:49

I meant like a passive you

20:49

to the whole design team

20:49

cause I'll probably be off before spaceman arrives

20:49

my bad

if we haven't already put the vriska bed on the beach maybe we could put it in atlantis?

20:55

since she intends to go over there

20:55

of course the kraken would need to be dealt with first

yeah we can kinda see where she's going

20:57

and put it somewhere climactic

20:57

@King Harkinian cerb will be dropping out sadly

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nooooooooooo

20:58

‍♂️

20:58

off he goes

into the sunset....

aight i think thats all rollovers done and pop is away now

21:05

just a few more things to update i thiml

21:05

think

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21:15

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21:16

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uhh @King Harkinian u exist yet

Not yet

aight

21:44

idk if i should mention it may be delayed a bit lol

I'm half back now

22:12

Back but doing smth else too

22:12

What still needs 2 be cone

22:12

done

uhh area rules and stuff

22:13

tryin to think of what else

Undyne

Click to see attachment 🖼️

i did movespecials and stuff and the atlantis map was made here at least

22:13

idr if the encino one exists or not

22:13

all the rollovers overall are done but yeah

22:16

oh yeah as u can see

22:16

humphrey and disco are on the same space now

22:16

do we do instant between with that

Hmm I think moveinstant is only if u have ropes or smth

22:18

We don't want too many moveinstants

22:18

Did my ship get built?

yeah fair

Or does it not exist yet

it exists

22:18

!area newship

UNOFFICIATED VESSEL

This ship is very bare bones. It's not painted, it doesn't have any special amenities, and it still even has the watermarks from the stock photo website it was pulled from. But it is a ship, and it can be claimed by a new up-and-coming crew! CONNECTIONS

OUT: newship

IN: newship

INSTANT OUT: newship --> harbor

INSTANT IN: harbor --> newship Characters Here: None

its still up to the crew to build it and stuff and we give them the badges and stuff this next phase but yeah

cool

22:19

So it's just a matter of ship movements then

believe so

So kye is staying where it is?

yeah

22:20

people there are just going to the jungle which btw i think we should have a one-way instant from jungle back to beach

So wait

22:20

quagsire, 404 and muskular still have unresolved moveinstants

oh right yeah

22:21

quagsire has open sea

22:21

muskular i wasnt sure about cuz

22:21

it said if it was built

22:21

it still exists, but its not fully built yet

muskular can just go on king's ship since it exists

ye

22:21

404 tho?

how about 404

22:21

he said 'get on the ship ig'

22:21

which I presume means ghost king

oh right oops

22:21

yeah thats that

22:22

i just missed that one lol

ok so I'll do the forcemoves

aight

but wait

22:22

why is quag going to open sea

22:22

if he's in f6 isn't that adjacent to jeanstown?

22:22

or is he trying to swim somewhere else

oh, yeah

22:23

hes trying to go to his ship in 2 phases

oh I see

22:25

Well

22:25

Can he not swim from f6 to a beach-adjacent tile?

well he was on g5, i guess

22:26

i think he had in mind to stay on open sea for a phase tho he gave away his walkie talkie fsr so idk what to really have him do during the phase

22:26

like i liked the idea for rollover hed prob dive and since hes pretty close to atlantis hed maybe see it

22:27

but idk we could maybe let him spy on jeanstown still maybe and vice versa

22:30

oh yeah could we maybe do like a canview even if the ships are on the same space

22:31

also i just added all the connections i believe

22:31

oh wait aside from one

22:31

ok there now all of em

Remember to use -o when connecting the instant ship movements

22:34

so that the movement back onboard is rule-based only

oh well ok

22:34

u can also just make a rule that prevents ppl without it from going back instead but fair (edited)

yeah fair enough

22:35

prob easier for now

22:38

Actually

22:38

That's smarter overall

22:38

Since we can keep that rule indefinitely

ye well its what we used in the test game iirc

uh idk if we've actually given the maps to ppl yet or not

Which maps

22:49

atlantis?

well that one yeah

22:50

i think there was also an encino one maybe? not sure

Who needs atlantis map

uhhhh

22:51

was that vriska? maybe?

22:51

i think mccafee gave vriska one

22:51

idk which they had

i gave atlantis map to vriska

yeah

Ok and what about encino is there one

and i think uhh laffite gave terraria pirate a map

22:52

i think that was encino?

22:52

oh and we were wondering about the puzzle stuff with that but idk

Did one get created?

i uh dont think so

22:54

the atlantis one is above

Yeah so how does that get sent

22:58

dm?

i imagine so

22:58

i can dm vriska, idk what we were thinking for encino tho

22:59

unless we just wanted like uh

22:59

a map with all the areas labeled and then just

22:59

an x where encino is or something

Like this?

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that works yeah

23:01

i still dunno about the puzzle stuff

we'll have smth set up when they get to the jungle

aight

23:01

maybe itll be like

23:01

they suddenly look at the back of the map or somethin lol

yeah

23:02

Maybe do smth like this

Image attachment

23:03

where it's kind of telling them to flip it over

23:03

so they see a hint

~~thats just where new jersey is~~

next phase

23:03

LOL

lmfao

ohh yeah I should indicate it's more fip over not off map

so do u think we might be able to uh

23:04

oh wait

Image attachment

23:04

so we send these and advance phase right

ok yeah i updated molly already

23:04

so yeah i think thats good

23:04

i already dmed vriska

Ok so I give this to 404

i think that should be all

?

yeah i think so

23:05

thats pirate terraria right

23:05

yep ok

alright

oh wait

23:05

are we gonna do the

23:05

"this ship is going to []"

23:05

or is there no point

Yes

oh ok

I'll do em

oh o

23:06

*oh ok

oh u can do disco

aight

23:08

oh right were we gonna remove uh

So was anything done for jungle

hasselhoff

23:08

i added the oneway moveinstant back to beach

23:08

otherwise i dont think anything was done

23:08

kye doesnt really have much they can do there rn

yeah

23:12

So is ianis's objective place jungle or encino

23:12

did we decide yet

oh right

23:12

i wanted to say jungle cuz i want kye to be more atlantis-bound

yeah

but we'd prob have to add some sort of

it'll be jungle

pedestal to the jungle

i'm adding it

ok ty

Let's say tomorrow's rollover will happen 1 hour later than usual maybe?

23:19

Or even like 2 hours

23:19

To account for this phase being delayed

Ok yeah fair

23:25

shit we forgot to add opensea didnt we

23:25

where is quag rn??

23:25

@King Harkinian

Quag can be in opensea for now

but he isnt rn is he

23:26

oh wait

23:26

oh ok u did it ty

np

oh crap right

23:27

i think i forgot to give molly energy

23:27

1 sec ill do that

23:27

u can uh address monkey buccaneers thing ig lol

@Barbaros So did karl's crew obj get changed like they wanted

yep

23:38

was a pain lmao

Oh were the profiles sent

23:40

They were not

oh mb

23:41

all that work lmao

Just sent em

23:41

no worries

ty

23:42

does quag have any uh spying

23:42

i was thinking of maybe adding one between him and jeanstown

23:43

so he could do something

Well

23:50

We could just

23:50

Put him in an area

23:50

Like

23:50

what tile is he in rn?

f6

23:50

i think

That should be adjacent to jeanstown no?

well sorta

23:50

i was thinking hed sorta be like near the top part of it

23:51

since hes goin to his ship after next phase

23:51

er

23:51

after this rollover

IMO a tile is a tile

i suppose

He should either be at beach or at jeanstown (edited)

but i think putting him on jeanstown would be against the point

23:51

hes meaning to swim away from it

Yeah hmm

23:52

I'll see if superb wants to be or see somewhere

23:52

Because personally I'd be willing to put him at the beach

fair

23:52

well idk

23:52

i kinda like him being in between too cuz of his dive ability

Yeah

and hes pretty close to atlantis

fair

itd be a good driving force for em after they leave the jungle

I was thinking the encino map only indicated it's somewhere in the uninhabited area but if the point is the puzzles then it makes sense the location is certain

23:58

I'll be available tomorrow to read up

00:00

@King Harkinian I'm not available tomorrow 1-2h later most likely

00:00

Take that into account

00:00

Or I will be for a shorter time than probably required

wdym

00:00

cuz the rollovers already gonna be later

00:03

oh yeah should we mention something in newship maybe that theres no real rules for lik

00:03

roles

00:03

between captain mates and sailors

00:03

cuz its gonna be a smaller group

Any advice on where to begin reading up on everything

00:08

It'd be easier if I could see channels individually but what can you do

Barbaros

cuz the rollovers already gonna be later

I mean I will not be available later than the usual rollover time

Have you guys been following all events the game fine btw?

00:16

did anything important ever happen in the bellow decks?

Not much lol

Well, what did happen then?

00:20

How about this; What should I prioritize looking at?

well hard to say there is plenty going on

00:40

i know i like to focus around watching humphrey group in particular

00:41

who were in uh harbor and johnstown as well last phase, if ur reading back that far

Undyne

I mean I will not be available later than the usual rollover time

ok yeah we'll have it at normal time then

00:43

Just be aware that I'm out for lunch tomorrow, so I should be around for regular time but I might be a bit late

00:43

There won't be a repeat of today though

00:43

Today it just happened that what I was doing was exactly at 2pm

00:44

And it went to like 5pm instead of 4pm like I expected

ok theres a bit of an issue with the not canmoveinstant to rules

And I also had an event to attend on discord at 5pm

00:44

So it was just

00:44

a lot

00:44

@Barbaros What's wrong?

oh well we have it so its like

00:44

if you dont have the badge u cant moveinstant to the deck

00:44

but that applies to if ur belowdeck, as well (edited)

00:45

so 404 was stuck

00:45

i just fixed that one but gotta do it for the others too

Oh damn

00:45

My b

also idk abt this rule if its all one thing lol

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00:45

np

Huh that's weird I don't remember setting smth like that

to be fair its 2 diff messages so it could just be a display bug

Yeah I think it's display bug

Hmm

00:48

Also did you like my meme spaceman

where

#treasure-chest

00:52

i pinned it

Also

00:59

nup says he can't get back on the ghost king

01:06

Ok yeah that was a good meme

01:06

I saw it earlier and laughed

we made it clear that mutineers can go back to being regular sailors at any time right

Yeah

looks like i might be making my getaway next phase

Indeed

Btw

04:44

if you're summoning humphrey this phase

04:44

here's what he looks like

04:44

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"

"

:)

04:59

Character-wise we'll probably only need to write a few lines for him in rollovers and flavour text, but he's very affable and friendly even when he's trying to eat people

05:00

And he laughs like "Nyak, nyak!"

any specific place i should head to when escaping?

05:10

atlantis maybe?

05:10

or does it not matter

The sea towards atlantis is what we were thinking

14:04

Also, I'll need to be caught up on the puzzles you guys decided on for encino

N/A

I'd like to say

15:17

That we just played dodgeball during kendo training

If you can dodge a sword, you can dodge a ball

15:40

Or perhaps this was intended to be the other way around lmao

Undyne

Also, I'll need to be caught up on the puzzles you guys decided on for encino

I'm still liking if one is a wordle

15:41

It could be done either collaboratively during phase, or by one person as an interactive rollover item

15:42

As for the other one hmm it should be one with something funny or referential about it

i mean again could do the wiki thing, the only thing is i have no idea how to justify wiki just popping into the game

Well I'm thinking of something like a visual or logic puzzle

King Harkinian

Or perhaps this was intended to be the other way around lmao

No the intention is that we practice kendo so we can perform well in dodgeball competitions

Good.

16:37

That's the way it should be

16:39

How did molly get to 8 energy already

16:39

That was supposed to be hard

16:40

lmao

i mean it was 1 per 0.25 damage right

Yeah

she got her shit rocked by karl

Oh I didn't realize she was taking that much damage from that

i kinda forgot about the energy thing when it happened but shes also a hit away from dead in a sense rn lol

16:41

well its normally 1.5

I guess it's fair yeah lol

but she rolled a 1 so i added 0.25 (edited)

Ah ok

since we were still givin her the lab

Yeah

16:41

Well I guess she's getting her giant mech then???

dam lol

this is going reall well so far tbh

this game is fun

perhaps arguably a bit early, but we have two full groups going to encino and atlantis respectively and stuff which is super ideal

TBH I'd rather it's fast paced than slow as balls

true

17:26

actually if the barbaros thing is to happen this is probably a perfect pace

Just to confirm, humphrey can submerge for 1 phase, afterwards it has to come up for a 1 phase cooldown right?

17:41

winter is asking

HUMPHREY'S DREAM is partially submersible! As a phase action, any crew member may temporarily submerge the ship. A glass dome will be raised over the deck. The ship will gain a +40% chance to dodge incoming attacks, and anyone on board will automatically investigate the depths below the current tile. (1 phase cooldown)

17:41

so yes

that's how I interpreted it

17:43

okay good thing I didn't say the wrong thing to winter lol

17:43

Wait

17:43

so it's not actually submerged for the next phase

17:43

but it's just during the rollover?

uhh

17:43

tbh it doesnt say

Yeah the way I read it implies that it's like a rollover event only

it being submerged for the phase isnt exactly ideal tbf

17:44

like it wouldnt make sense to be able to go anywhere from there

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a rollover action

17:44

since it's "partially submersible"

can i say its planning to be longer than the current average?

I wouldn't cause I'm not sure it even will

well i would say so prob but shrug lol we'll see i guess

I know it's a lot to ask

18:23

but could I see everything with my main

18:24

It's nigh impossible to read up on ship areaswith earlogs

18:28

Also sorry for being absent today I kinda hibernated

Byakuren Hijiri

It's nigh impossible to read up on ship areaswith earlogs

The comparisson Amal made with RoT is apt I feel.

I wonder if we could give your main a different role than npc to show up on the sidebar

18:41

so people don't get confused with it and laffite

@Barbaros @King Harkinian rollover time

19:02

idk where spaceman is but we can start without him again

@💀 need u to roll some D8s

doesn't look like she's actually rolling them this action

19:33

either way she gets a total of 18 from 16 +2 name mentions

19:33

so she is successful

I was thinking it'd be funny to see like

19:34

what faces of the dice hit undyne

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thanks

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should i tell the kye crew that its atlantis and the kraken or nah

tell them what is

what quagsire saw

ah

21:41

idk

aight lol

21:42

well they'll prob find out eventually if they stay where they are

Btw syne is asking if the ovioid shape can provide any boost to the ship

21:46

Since they only got 1 word each it could make sense to have as many of them be functional as possible

yeah fair

21:47

but hmm

21:47

maybe its slightly harder to hit? or something

uh wait was carvallain supposed to go to jeanstown? im confused lol

22:04

@Undyne

Nothing about movement was in her action

yeah it wasnt

So it depends on her movespecial

apparently her movement was just discodeck tho lol

22:05

and she isnt there somehow

I wasn't there resolving them

22:05

Well I guess fixplayerarea it is

22:05

Was disco even there?

i dont know

Yes it was

22:05

So that was valid

22:06

Why didn't the movement go through

ohh maybe they moveinstanted

22:06

and it cancelled their moveaction

Right

should we fix them then?

We need to like announce that or smth

22:06

Yeah i don't see why not

i told the ghost king crew i left all my weapons in the tavern

22:44

just because i shouldn’t be able to give them free stuff

Aite

Should i be able to moveinstant to the kye ship?

Idk u don't have a badge right

04:10

Also

04:10

Is the public announcement for muskular duel results supposed to go in #announcements

04:10

Or just rollovers

i was under the impressino itd be announcements

04:11

tho if u think otherwise idm that either obviously

I'll go with whatever u and pop think since it was yalls ability design

I was thinking announcements

Cool

may be unavailable for a lot of the rollover today, i apologize if thats the case ill make sure i at least do the maps tho

Ok no worries and thx

thanks and yea

Btw I have a weekly 1:1 with my manager at 1:30 so I'll be able to hop on a rollover vc after that

17:38

Shouldn't be later than 1:45

Alright

Ok done now

18:44

Can call

vriska is trying to go for ancestral awakening, which i was hoping to save for a crit success

19:08

but she got four 8s which is really rare in itself

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should i let her do it? if so i'm changing the roll image to eight 8s to match its appearance in the comic

@💀 idk what ancestral awakening is but it looks like she just wants a cool sword

@💀 How do you manage reading up

19:27

on like

19:27

everything

19:27

SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE PING

what is the marquise spinnered mindfang?

19:27

what kind of an item should that be

that's a person

19:28

vriska's ancestor

the sword is a person??

it's the sword that was used by the person

well then we don't need the person

19:30

we just need the sword

reread the action lol

19:30

of course we don't need the person

roll my dice. try to power my sword up into the sword of the legendary Marquise Spinneret Mindfang

19:30

?????

19:30

power up my sword into the cool sword

19:30

no person summoning here

19:30

so what is the problem

19:31

why wouldn't we let her just get a cool sword

what vriska is trying to do is like, the single best possible outcome

19:31

but she got a really good d8 roll anyway so syeah i'll give it to her

I mean

oh I see

19:32

then it could be like

Hmm

a less powerful version

19:32

if it's only 4 8's

19:32

like it could be halfway there

yeah i was hoping to save it for a crit success like i said

like a pretty cool sword but not like the legendary sword

19:33

well what feature could the sword get for four 8s?

19:33

I have no idea about the weapon in question

19:33

so maybe you can just think of a less powerful feature that still feels relevant

I'm pretty sure the English pronounciation is the actual one

19:34

considering Homestuck was written in English

she can just get a faux replica of the sword that doesn't glow

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19:35

and say something like

19:35

"Looks like you weren't quite lucky enough."

19:35

along those lines

aite

damn he's going to the nether?

if she rolls an 8 or 20 from the d20 at any point she'll get ancestral awakening though

aite

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@Barbaros ur goin to johnstown since no one is at beach next phase

Oh no im going on ms kye

21:03

Thats what i meant to do, sorry

Oh ok cool

21:08

Do you have maps

@💀 we're gonna have humphrey's dream see your opensea area, you'll be in E6, they are in F7, they can shout out to you and stuff

21:13

So you can engage with them in RP

k

we'll also start introducing the kraken

21:14

so they might ask you for help

Does the ghist ship get the extra movement

1 not 2

Wdym

it does yeah

21:16

sorry

Ok np

@Barbaros can you post the humphrey map first?

21:19

I'll lock the channel immediately and do an interlude

21:19

and then unlock

Should we put molly at e2?

molly is in johnstown

21:23

took a boat with a trade route

Would it go there tho? Its the only way in 2 spaces

21:23

Anyways

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Think this is right

yeah that's right

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let's just do it she's in johnstown

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21:26

Uh

cool let's roll over

21:26

I think those all look good

Ok

21:26

The last one doenst emb- ok nvm it just did

lol yea

@Barbaros so yeah can you do humphrey real q

21:29

thx bb

Do what

21:30

Do we have spy channels between king and ghost

no I was lazy so they can just view each other

21:31

Since neither ship has lookouts any more and they've been together for a while anyway

Aight

@Bones if you want to, you can mention ancient technology

21:40

and something about terraforming you might have heard?

sure

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21:41

what?????????????????????????????

LMAO

21:52

can one of the gms do !source Horse ricesnot

done

21:53

@King Harkinian @Barbaros what if a captain could grant someone temporary moveinstant access to their ship?

21:53

spectakoo rn is at a place where if he goes to jeanstown he can't instantmove to the ghost king at all for the rest of the phase despite being essentially an accepted guest

Im prob alright with that esp for koo whos been pretty stuck

yeah

21:54

let's use koo as a testing site

21:54

and then announce it if it seems good

I'm thinking

22:13

if needed

22:13

encino could have a connection to atlantis somehow

22:14

we'll see if it's necessary at all but it's a possibility if some characters end up on opposing routes due to available crews

Yeah could be

Spectakoo is saying their moveinstant isnt working

23:52

Itsp ossible the existing rule overwrites it

23:57

Aight yeah worked it out

So uh

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01:24

IT'S PHASE SIX

8 tbf

01:36

anyways thats certainly dramatic but i also dont want karl to outright die

i mean we do also have davy jones but idk if itd suit them based on this

yeah

01:39

I mean they can do whatever they want but we have our choice of how to resolve it

01:39

It doesn't have to be victory or death lmao

yeah

Don't we still have davy jones' locker

We do but as plas mentioned, the way the action is described sounds like it's asking for permadeath on failure

Yeah I mean haven't they been thinking about dropping out in vault

14:18

We should probably like actually confirm it in DMs

Oh what

14:19

I've missed that if so

The only one i saw considering doing that was sib

Oh I must have gotten them confused

14:19

We should still ask about that

I mean

14:23

Personally

14:24

I think we should have them get grabbed by the kraken like plas suggested

14:24

That gives the others one turn to save karl

14:24

If they so choose

14:24

And it postpones his 'victory or death' thing to next phase

Sure

14:25

I guess if they want to actually drop the game they would just drop the game

Yea

Yeah, and if it was a success theyd be around for quite a bit longer In a sense i totally get it, cuz to Karl this is like his last task He knows what he has been looking for is there, and this is obviously the last thing standing in his way from it I just thought itd be kinda obvious we were planning to have this boss last longer than this lol, this would be a phase-3-of-battle action to me But perhaps thats sorta a product of games getting shorter nowadays, in some other games it probably couldve ended next phase

@King Harkinian is the idea that you need the encino map to go through the jungle?

So I was thinking that like

16:56

If you enter the jungle with the encino map

16:56

You get DMed that you're able to navigate your way to a placard with instructions for what to do on the pedestal

16:56

And doing that activates the puzzles

Cool

17:01

@Byakuren Hijiri would you be available to rp as laffite this phase still?

17:01

people might want to get inside the bar to discuss encino

Mayhaps

Kinda need a yes or no

17:02

wait you might not need to

I mean

17:11

I have yet to read up properly

people might just want to discuss encino

17:14

you don't really need to know anything other than what laffite would know

aight gimme like

17:17

30 mins

@Undyne Mind giving me a quick recap of the stuff I've missed

17:43

that's important

Well pirate terraria has the encino map as you gave it

17:43

but is stranded from his crew in jeanstown rn

17:43

and other people want to go to encino too (for their objective)

17:43

that being the kingship crew

17:44

so they want to talk about encino

17:44

that's the main thing

Can I maybe go with them, then?

17:46

Might give me something to do, honestly

17:46

I did tell Cortez that if he blew up the colonial town, I'd help him

Sure

17:47

You could go with the kingship into encino

17:47

but you ought to wake up soon

Oh I was thinking of going with Cortez's crew

oh they're not going to encino

17:50

they're going to atlantis

17:50

ghost king is heading to follow mcafee who is going towards atlantis, and king's ship is going to encino if they can get the map

@King Harkinian @Barbaros I might have to leave a bit early this rollover, is that fine?

18:03

Got a presentation I have to do during lecture tomorrow

Yeah that's fine

At least mechanically this phase is probably somewhat chill

18:04

main thing is whatever happens with the kraken

Yeah

18:10

I'm down to hop in call once I've finished my lunch

Alright

18:23

ready

gonna take a dump then head to vc

@Byakuren Hijiri maybe if you join them on the ship you can draw a new map? because you'd remember it

I don't really want to join their crew I don't care about them lol

18:44

Like in character I don't really care about their crew (edited)

18:44

Also I have my pride right

18:45

and respect for the other pirate I gave the map to

18:45

tbh I'd rather go with the ghost crew

18:45

from a character and personal pov

noah be like https://youtu.be/eEdVtJW_PwE

Drake - In The Bible (Audio) ft. Lil Durk, Giveon

Example duel text: Duel between Koeia and Maerk: Get as many other unique people to say your “keyword” as possible without saying it yourself. Koeia’s keyword is “defenestration” and Maerk’s keyword is “avocado”. Every time you say your keyword you receive a -1 penalty to your score. Your time begins now and ends at the end of the next phase. The prize is my gratitude and maybe a tiny bit of good luck! <message> A duel has been declared! <message> Whichever of @Koeia and @Maerk gets other unique characters to say their 'keyword' more, while taking a -1 penalty for saying it themselves, between now and the end of the next phase wins! They'll earn Muskular's gratitude and maybe a tiny bit of good luck!

disco below radio: "Hello? Is this thing on? This be The Pirate! I got this radio back from that traitor! I be in Jeanstown, alongside the traitors. I've seen the new objective, I really need to talk to ya cap'n. Can ye pick me up? I've tried my best to avoid these scoundrels attempts at scoundrel-ing, but I don't know how much longer I can go on."

sure enough she got a total of 8

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DAMN

discord was down for a bit but that means her roll converts to this

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and now she looks like this, minus the wings

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@💀 can you get us an image of vriska's glowing sword

20:17

or an image of her like the above but without the wings

found 1

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!howmanychannels

Your server currently has 293 channels. The max is 500. Unless your game is going to be ginormous, you're good to run a game on this server.

Oh I forgot to damage 403

21:25

404

21:25

Let me do that

@💀 it would be funny if this was crypto

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lol

22:12

when they inevitably kill me i want death to be still be left kinda ambiguous

should humphrey be able to straight up swallow people?

00:05

there would be a stomach area they'd have to escape

00:06

if not how would his attacking be handled

yo what if i could like

00:20

climb into the blowhole and they had to fight me inside

Humphrey can definitely swallow people

💀

there would be a stomach area they'd have to escape

light omori spoilers yeah his stomach is literally an entire sequence of the game

yea that's what i was thinking of

00:32

the game is gonna go on for at least another 3 phases so they shouldn't be able to just curbstomp me immediately

00:33

also i had the most batshit idea for explaining his time travel but it all clicks into place perfectly

00:34

john mcafee is a valid 4/6 homestuck name

00:34

we make him a sburb player with the time aspect

00:35

and when he's dying we leave a subtle hint that he was carried to a quest bed

00:35

near vriska's

oooohhhhh

does that mean we can use that?

please

00:40

yes

00:40

potentially at least

LETS GOOOOO

unless we want him to be dead dead for the players' satisfaction

i said we could try and leave it ambiguous

00:41

but that's a good point yea

00:46

one option is, he dies before getting to the quest bed

00:46

so he fails to escape again

Could be

00:46

But we'll see what happens

00:46

Btw

00:46

I'm thinking this could be what's on the back of the map

00:46

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00:47

Like

00:47

they have to bring a sea sponge to the pedestal

00:47

Then it'll open up the first puzzle

00:53

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00:54

Should we let him flip it over mid phase

00:54

Or have it be his action during rollover

00:54

@Barbaros @💀 thoughts?

mm

00:55

well itd be a bit more cinvenient if he could do it now idk

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

at worst itd be a free action

00:56

its just turning a paper over

Yeah

I can't believe ianis is making muskular think the pedestal is just a bench

14:25

IT'S DESCRIBED AS A PEDESTAL

14:26

THAT'S SPECIAL

14:26

IT'S NOT JUST A BENCH

yeah when adding a guest thing u also gotta change the older rule

14:43

it has to also have "and not hasitem []guest" in it or itll keep blocking em (edited)

Oh ok yeah for some reason I didn't see that aspect of the ghost one

15:09

But then we don't even need the other rules right

15:09

We just need one rule for both the badge and the guest pass

yeah thats what i did

So yeah I deleted the area-conditional ones

aight

Sounds good

16:14

I like how my last 2 games I've GMed for have both been logistical nightmares

16:14

Catbox and this

16:14

With 30+ players

Lmao yeah

16:18

I think having this many players + custom mechanics is just bound to cause logistical havoc (edited)

16:18

I'd like to think we've kept on top of things fairly well, aside from just having to make in-phase moveinstant corrections a few times

16:19

And rollovers have been long, but

‍♂️

16:20

It'd be interesting to see a massive game with basically no mechanical uniqueness, and whether that would really be easier or if it'd still be a nightmare

16:20

I think it'd still be hard just because of 30 abilities interacting with each other etc

16:27

@Undyne @Barbaros ?

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16:27

I think this is pushing it

16:27

But

16:27

We could technically allow it just fine I think

16:28

I said yes

16:28

I think it's fine

Technically sure

Ahh.... good times

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so true

@Undyne can I see the map

which map

18:08

encino?

18:08

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914551310651645982/943236399560286248/unknown.png?width=624&height=676

Embedded image

yes

18:08

the map Inigo is requesting

18:08

I need to give details for it

Undyne

encino?

Yeah what about the inscriptions?

on the other side?

18:08

hold on

18:09

wait it's right above

18:09

just scroll up a sec

@King Harkinian Mind moving Laffite to ghostdeck?

Like rn?

18:34

Sure

18:34

Or

yeah rn

I can just give u a ghostguest pass

sure

You can now moveinstant there

18:37

I'll be hopping in vc soon

damn what should I do?

18:56

like in this situation

18:56

that could be fun

18:56

LaFit

18:56

Like I'm on Ghostdeck

18:57

seeing McAfee getting blown up

18:57

what should I say?

18:57

Or do?

18:57

That's appropriate in character?

18:57

Don't like him tbh

19:03

@Undyne bro use a fork then

so are we gonna let mcafee enter the whale after losing the majority of his health?

19:08

or just kill him there?

We're gonna figure that out

if we just get rid of him now there are gonna be some players who have nothing to do for the rest of the game

Yeah

19:09

We could give him one more phase

19:10

Thoughu

19:10

There's still atlantis

19:10

And encino

19:10

Mcafee only really satisfies edwin and bec trede's personal objs, and the ghost king's crew obj

19:10

So the only player who is truly done is edwin

19:10

Everyone else still has their personal objs

unless he stumbles into the blowhole and appears to die at that moment

19:14

let me know what you come up with

Oh so

19:14

He could get swallowed by humphrey

19:14

And not seen again

that works

19:17

humphrey would swim towards atlantis then

19:18

in search of the quest bed

19:18

since we want to give the players a satisfying ending we could say humphrey found the bed but then he got hungry and just ate him

the bed?

💀

and when he's dying we leave a subtle hint that he was carried to a quest bed

going back to this

@💀 can u roll vriska's dice

oh yeah mb

19:34

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Hmm that's fairly middling

19:34

But she did get one 8

19:34

That puts her roll to a 5 overall lmao so not the greatest ever

+1 from name bonus too

19:36

so uhhhhhh

Ah so a 6

she can summon a literal fly

Hahahaa

19:37

Good

anyway sorry akk you're dead

awesome now i don't have to do double duty rp anymore

yep

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arent ghost and kye supposed to be able to view the kraken?

21:19

or no

Can they not?

21:33

Oh

21:33

No they can only spy on it

21:33

They're two tiles away

21:33

The kraken has extra view distance but they're still too far to perfectly see it

yeah i had to

21:34

add that for kye tho lol

21:34

they didnt have one

uhh how hsould i like

21:42

show the kraken stuff to the kye crew

21:42

since they only started spying now and cant see any of the area desc

21:45

ok actually theres people that have spy channels but they arent in them

21:45

i dont get that at all lol

Hmm

21:46

It's quite possible that the bug is due to adding it after phase start

21:46

But idk

yeah but a

21:47

now i have to check everyone who hasnt had a spy channel yet and stuff

No don't worry about that

actually it might just be sib and 404?

I think it might just be those two

21:47

yeah

ok

21:49

ok so should i just post like

21:49

the kraken desc in kyedeck or what

Huh idk

22:00

You could like

22:00

update their map ig?

22:00

to show the kraken storm thing

well its moreso that it says theres karl and scarlett on it

22:01

i could maybe just post the area image or something

Koo and locke were apparently enjoying the rollover in their secret channel on spectakord

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22:59

Wait wrong one

22:59

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is this fine? i wanna say yes cuz cortez can moveinstant to jeanstown anyways

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01:30

so its like basically the same action

01:30

@King Harkinian

Sure yeah

aight

@Barbaros See this is why I thought it could be wise to hint that there's a part in jeanstown before they leave it

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02:47

The third is with the tempest now, and they're right in sight of the fourth but they have no reason to think it's there

I thought that's what she thought by "somewhere in the area" lol

02:48

i was thinking the one she said she had no clue about was the one in the water thats now gone lol

02:48

i could be wrong tho

Oh btw

16:58

I'm thinking that I should make beach/jungle a two-way moveinstant

16:58

The justification would be that enough ppl have gone back and forth that there's somewhat of a trodden path inside

16:59

This would greatly speed up things for the king's crew

16:59

And keep them from wasting a phase on the beach doing nothing

16:59

I'm glad we made it non-moveinstant before though

17:00

It prevented too many people from daring the jungle

That sounds good

I'll hop in vc now

Béton.

@King Harkinian Prophetic vision of a Yugioh card

19:10

he has never played Yugioh

no dice this phase but the 8 converts to a nat 20

Yuppp

“muskular has seen the light. We are on the kye heading for F7”

19:34

remember to give roll bonus to duel winner

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Yeah we made the humphrey crew a bit too confident lmao

21:16

They think they can take it alone

i mean

21:18

they kinda already thought that

uhhhh

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Uh I'd say james, ianis, quagsire, and somewhat maerk (edited)

21:48

maerk can't go to opensea

21:48

neither can ianis probably

21:48

but they can't drown

TBH I kind of misunderstood amal's profile

11:55

And I can see why he's miffed

11:55

Personally I would have included in profile that all the 400db abilities could be used in other ways than just the mechanical descriptions

11:55

and then the results would be judged by the DMs

He already has full creative reign over the stuff those were just examples

13:21

And i think i made that fairly clear

13:21

I dont think its unreasonable to expect to not be able to lift entire structures into the air after a couple phases of playing a guitar

13:22

Hed also be overpowered if he ever boarded the humphreys dream

Yeah fair enough idk what you said in private

I just explained as much as i could And how getting db is literally a free action so its literally just a bonus

Right

Sure maybe the 400dB abilities couldve been a bit more powerful but if he used like the cannons or something he could probably get them in 3 is what i had in mind Either way its like. Literally the highest effort ability lol so it sucks that hes just bitching about it in rp now

13:36

Im sorry im letting this get to me too much but. Idk man i feel like i should at least be able to expect complaints like this to not make it ingame

Yeah bringing it up in game is kind of imnotinthemood

imnotinthemood

Btw we'll be creating the atlantis area today most likely

16:09

In fact almost certainly

Yep

16:10

Maybe prepare for it 1h before rollover?

Yeah prob wise

16:11

We've gotta make sure of what's actually down there first

16:12

-mechanism to lift stuff -vriska quest bed? -barbaros part -what else?

I actually had an idea for it

16:13

Its meant to have like a power source for Karl to get to break his ties with the castle

16:13

I was thinking we could maybe also have that able to turn vriska into her god form if karl does die

16:14

The only issue is actually getting vriska to know she should use it if that happens

Hmm yeah that's like

16:19

Interesting but it would have to be set up in a way that's intuitive for the characters

16:20

Maybe @💀 could give us some info on whether that fits with the homest*ck lore

I am now in vc

@King Harkinian where

"I just satisfied myself a whole lot" -spaceman

King Harkinian

Maybe @💀 could give us some info on whether that fits with the homest*ck lore

there would be two beds down there

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one with this picture on it

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and another with this one

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19:43

vriska will know what to do given that much info

what are these for exactly

19:45

(also dont forget to do vriskas d8s)

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19:46

the light one is for vriska. she has to die on the bed in order to ascend

19:46

the time one... well i think you can put the pieces together by now

does she appear there or something

(the time bed was going to be mcafee's getaway)

ah

19:49

yeah no i could not put the pieces together lol

i mean i had talked about it a bit before

19:51

vriska's roll total is 15 counting the name bonus, i say we let her use the cool sword to slice all the tentacles off for the final blow

19:52

although it'll only be low enough if it gets shot with the orphan maker i think

19:53

(tbf it's only been these three fighting the kraken for 3 phases, i think we can be a bit lenient)

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I stay always in a liminal state, crossing borders is my existence. I long for contact, to feel another, yet to take me is to turn my mission around.

You've met a sailor's death, and your soul stands at a crossroads. Will you pass on to whatever lies beyond, content only to watch events from afar, or will you linger in the depths of Davy Jones' Locker and hold on to a chance of influencing or even returning to the living world? Message a GM with your choice or any clarifying questions you may have. (Also let us know if you wish your dying message to still be posted whatever you choose.) (edited)

i forgot molly got another 20 LMFAO

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please disregard any suggestions i make about the game from now on

I am ever in a liminal state, for crossing borders is my existence. I long to feel another, and to hold me is to change where I am bound.

I long to feel another, yet that touch precedes death.

20:55

My origin or end point are both in danger, like a cat box closed only until I stop. (edited)

LOL

21:10

What happened

We used u as a test

21:10

To see if you can unkill someone at 0 hp

damn that's all I am to yall.....

21:10

a rat....

But actually

a ZEL raat....

You're in as byakuren now

21:10

SO TRUE

Oh really

in davy jones

well

since someone is there now

let me like

it'll be you karl and mcafee

host knk first ok

I am never settled, for crossing borders is my existence. I long to feel another, yet my touch is anathema. The danger is known when my journey ends, like a cat box unopened 'til I arrive.

21:11

@Undyne

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I do appreciate how like

21:45

Even though james and sea hawk haven't been around much

21:45

Their RP has been GREAT whenever they are around

21:45

Honestly same with all the less active players this game

21:45

Everybody's very committed to their bits and I love it

sure

you don't sound sure

It's a happy sure

Ah very good

Amal is quitting

OH ok karl just specified that he can just be put back together and come back to life

23:16

very good

Barbaros

Amal is quitting

damn

23:20

guessing he can't be bothered with rping anymore and needs more time to work on that objective

hm

01:26

do we wanna consider having a break?

01:28

@King Harkinian @Undyne

Yeah

03:28

Since you're away and pop is busy with brine and co it makes sense to do it tomorrow

03:33

The word I'll use for the wordle is BILGE

Sure

04:56

I'm down

Crew changes can be a free action right

yeah

15:04

Ok so should I announce a break

15:04

And

15:04

How should it work

15:04

I'm thinking we could just lock channels for 24 hours or so

15:04

Unless we want to let ppl still talk

15:05

But I feel like letting ppl still talk in game defeats the purpose of a break somewhat (since it means there'll still be stuff to catch up on)

15:08

You know what's interesting

15:08

Scarlett shooting vriska kind of works for her objective

15:08

Like

15:08

She's ""betraying"" vriska by shooting her but she's actually helping her

15:08

I know it's a stretch lol

15:09

@Barbaros @Undyne Lock channels or no

I wanna say yeah

15:11

Tho make sure ppl know beforehand

Yeah

15:12

You know what I'll put it to a public vote

@Barbaros @Undyne Lock in half an hour from now (11 AM EST) until 8 AM EST tomorrow (allowing 6 hours of gameplay before rollover)?

I spose yea

Is there a diff arrangement u might prefer

I mean if thas what the ppl want thas fine w me

Unsure about my presence tomorrow. It should be a clear night sky and we're in the countryside, and the opportunity to go stargazing honestly overrides my obligation to this game (edited)

Well

16:40

Are you suggesting that we break for the whole weekend then

16:40

Or are you saying that we can resume tomorrow but you'll be unavailable

The latter

Ok that's fine

17:01

If you want to help still you could write some preemptive rollover notes today since a lot of ppl have submitted actions already

17:01

Even if they're scattered and not area-specific

17:02

But perhaps more importantly @Undyne do you think you would be able to unlock channels around 12PM or 2PM your time tomorrow

17:02

i.e. 6AM or 8AM EST

Sure yeah

17:29

I can place an alarm

Cool

17:39

Either time works or any time between them

Oh we locked early?

No

18:24

We're locking until tomorrow morning

18:25

Then phase 10 will continue as normal until 2pm tomorrow

got it

So remind me again what I do at 12PM my time?

Unlock channels

19:51

You can also do it later like 1pm or 2pm your time

Okay

King Harkinian

If you want to help still you could write some preemptive rollover notes today since a lot of ppl have submitted actions already

I'll try to

I'm tryna think about how to handle encino movement

15:53

Like I kind of want the tempest crew to be able to possibly encounter my crew next phase, but I want my crew to have a way out

15:53

And I don't want encino to be a triple layered moveinstant (ship->beach->jungle->encino)

15:54

Maybe encino could be a moveinstant for just the people that find it? So my crew would be able to go back and forth, but the tempest crew could only go as far as the jungle

Maybe yeah

15:55

The item is just called "enlightenment" or somethin lmao

LOL

@King Harkinian I can be available for the next hour or so to work on rollover notes etc?

Ok cool

Just give me a few to hop in

Sounds good

Atlantis lore for cath: atlantis used to cover the entire archipelago, like rome. The main hub was the island that sunk down. So they tried to create the tech to make the archipelago float in the sky as a perfect isolated utopia civilization. But the machine overheated and failed and the main island sunk, leaving the rest to decay and be forgotten

19:10

So now if you activate it works because underwater it's cooled enough

@💀 ok

19:22

so

19:22

explain what it will look like when vriska goes god mode

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Ability: God Tier You have gained your optimal physical form by reaching the god tiers. You have 2 additional hearts of health and can fly. Ability: Thief of Light As the Thief of Light, you excel at “stealing” from others. As a bonus action, you may steal luck from a desired player by swapping your d20 rolls if yours is lower. Your flashy new getup will steal quite a bit of the spotlight too.

19:24

we can quietly up the damage of her sword to 1.25 as well

19:24

i didn't realize we hadn't done that already

@King Harkinian can u hear me

is she gonna be able to revive karl by reassembling him?

Can u join vc

not atm

ok so

19:37

my idea is

19:37

that if she reassembles some of karl then he is in limbo between davy jones and atlantis

19:38

he can view both, move to either, but not move anywhere else

19:38

he only becomes freed when they use the altar thing to free him from the castle

altar thing?

There is a small stone altar here, with a statue the shape of a crow on top of its base. An inscription reads: ~ Siphon a new power ~ ~ Free yourself from the shackles that bind you ~

ah k

sorry yall just got here

19:55

im still a bit sick rn but i can help with areas and maps at the very least

19:55

ill maybe try to join vc after if theres still stuff that needs going

Ok cool

19:57

We did all the rollover notes so if you want you can roll over a couple of the simpler ones like disco

aight

Get better soon plas!!

ty

@Barbaros which bone was in atlantis

right yeah uh

20:23

gimme a seck lol

20:24

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20:24

Left foot

Ok cool

@Undyne @Barbaros should we give npc role the Admin permissions so they can see every channel

If it makes their lives easier then sure I guess

@💀 @Byakuren Hijiri how much do yall think it would help at this point to see all channels

King Harkinian

@Undyne @Barbaros should we give npc role the Admin permissions so they can see every channel

im alright with thar

Also this good?

You're filled with the understanding of what this machine is, and why it was built. Once, Atlantis was a mighty city, and it rested on the largest and most bountiful isle of this archipelago. Its empire sprawled across all these isles. With their advanced technology, they sought to build a machine that would elevate their island to the skies above, to rule over their lands from a utopia in the clouds. But the machine overheated, and backfired. Instead of lifting them up, it sunk the city down to the bottom of the sea, ending the Atlantean civilization. Now, sitting dormant underwater for so long, the machine is kept cool by the water around it. And you can see that with a few simple tweaks to the controls and a pull of the lever, the machine could lift Atlantis up once again... and not just that, but raise **the entire archipelago** to the sky alongside it!

20:40

Sending in 10 seconds

yeah thas cool

20:40

oh im late

20:40

but it is cool

King Harkinian

@💀 @Byakuren Hijiri how much do yall think it would help at this point to see all channels

i mean the game is almost over but you may as well if possible

@Undyne @Byakuren Hijiri should I leave undyne and laffite in jeanstown? No one will be there

Just 2 lol

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Nice

21:23

!s

21:23

!confirms

21:23

!a johnstown

21:23

!a harbor

21:23

!a kraken

21:23

!confirm

Confirm OPENSEA? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm HUMPHREYDECK? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm HUMPHREYBELOW? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm BEACH? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm HARBOR? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm JOHNSTOWN? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm POISSON? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm KINGSHIP? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm KRAKEN? (y/n/idk)

y

Confirm ENCINO? (y/n/idk)

y

21:24

Wait

21:24

Why did I do that in here

21:24

whoops

21:26

@Barbaros nextphasing now, u ready to post maps?

21:27

I'll do it

Oh nono i can

oh ok

21:28

solid then

Uh oh

21:58

Koeia isn't saying anything about the machine

Alright

22:07

@Master Mariner you are now viewing all channels bitches

ok bitch

LETS GOOOO

So koeia at least has told the ghost crew that the machine can lift up atlantis

22:28

nothing about the other islands

22:29

so we should try to make sure twig knows this

22:29

at least that much

i'm gonna do an action in rp during the phase to show them that the bed doesn't work on anyone to prevent them from killing scarlett on it

22:40

if that

22:40

's ok

alright

regarding the misinformation @King Harkinian i haven’t a clue

01:59

did koeia tell the crew what bones found? because that would have alleviated it

02:00

i can’t read up because i’m at work

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also i was really expecting the ghost king crew to jump at the chance to go to atlantis but they haven’t done squat with that

well theyre

02:02

gonna go there just

I'm honestly going to just take out my rage at the 'pick on a few players' vibe this game has rn

02:27

By pulling out the DINNER BLASTER

lmfao

@Bones do you want to drop some stuff about what entrapta revealed re: machine

04:19

since

04:19

twig kinda

04:19

needs to know about it

oh i thought he did already lool

I don't know if he knows

04:24

Ok so yeah I guess he knows

04:24

And he seems fine as long as entrapta activates it

04:24

I suppose it works for his objective as long as he's there and knows about it

Saiko asked to be muted from atlantis, I did that for now

This got her heated up for sure

11:05

Kind of like vanilla mafia flashbacks tbh

11:06

I don't agree with her way of expressing her frustrations but it's a shame things are like this

Gdi man Things were goin pretty alright this game But we try one ways for a bit and then this happens

12:56

Wish i knew better

This is making me reconsider one of the ideas I had for spaceman game (edited)

NGL the disco tempest wanting to kill all the peeps who left it is like

18:06

One of the most un-objective-like things I've ever seen

18:06

It doesn't feel real

18:06

Like are these players actually going through with this? It's not a joke?

Yeah it's kind of insane honestly???

18:07

Especially like

18:07

the way they're acting about it

18:07

It's like they completely don't care about the players they're hunting down at all

18:07

And just see them as npcs to be taken out

18:08

People have just been acting really weird this game

Yeah like

18:09

At least the atlantis sitch is a debate

18:10

These actual players in a bing bing wahoo monkey ship actually showed up and actually are not letting any defense happen

Yeah

I'm gonna eat rn

18:11

Then hop into vc

It's still insane to me that they made that their objective

18:11

And have spent the entire game doing nothing

18:11

And have never questioned whether they should change it

It feels like they are not playing objective at all like

18:12

What happened to at least subconsciously keeping in mind that people want to play and not be killed if there's any way to avoid it

Yeah

18:12

And like it's not like it's experienced players going after each other

Like this is very weird because people are playing the metagame in a super duper aggressive and mafia/UMG way

they decided to manhunt two very new and innocent players

I guess it's tunnel vision on the character narratives?

Yeah

18:13

Suppose so

Like if they thought about any of the meta elements for a second they wouldn't do it I think

I agree most likely

I hope

18:13

That's the charitable reading

It's telling that they've hardly been talking in vault

Yeah

I guess we should be careful what we wish for

18:13

"Hopefully we get some more conflict this game"

18:13

monkey's paw finger curls

LMAO

18:15

"I hope this won't turn out like cat/box" -> becomes the opposite where players inexplicably WANT to kill for no reason

LOL yeah

Brine be talking to koeia from the ms kye deck while eating sausages with my mom

Lmao

@King Harkinian cinnamonspiders left the server?

@Barbaros do u know anything abt that?

Anyway spaceman u wanna vc?

Can't rn but I can just before 2pm

18:29

I can do text in the meantime

Okay I'll hop on then

18:30

I think the biggest thing is gonna be encino

18:30

Since atlantis seems to be coming to a fair conclusion?

18:30

Based on the rp at least

ah yeah i wasnt aware that happened but cin has been going through some stuff related to some friends nothing to do with objective, tho i cant say for certain rn if theyre gonna come back or not

Gotcha, thanks for the info

18:33

Hope they can figure it out

yea

Aight I can vc now

One sec

In the meantime I'll heat up some lunch

Ah. Windows yodate.

19:02

I TYPED UPDATE

19:02

Wtf is YODATR

https://tenor.com/view/chile-yoda-creepy-weird-luke-gif-23558761

Internet failing hang on sorry @King Harkinian

no worries

Countryside be like

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Has anyone in this game ever said

23:17

"Oh hi Maerk"

LMAO

23:23

its funny it feels like

23:23

things just went back to normal now

23:23

like its like all that bs last phase didnt really happen

Yeah (edited)

23:23

except for disco crew

well yeah

23:24

but idk i feel like ppl are prepared

Yeah

it feels kinda like a fair fight? idk

It does

23:24

We have the high ground too

Has this game just been sib and lou rping at each other for the last hour

03:21

lmao

That's just every objective game (edited)

@King Harkinian vc?

sure

@Barbaros can you vc today?

uh yeah i think so

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@Undyne So do we delete the earlog like amal is asking

20:38

I'm kind of leery of that

20:38

Not a big fan of redacting stuff that isn't like, actually sensitive

20:38

I guess the question is whether this is sensitive enough

I agree

20:38

And I don't think so

20:38

No one is gonna look back anyway

ooook so

20:47

that just put that specific jungle phase into a new category lol

lol

!howmanychannels

Your server currently has 391 channels. The max is 500. You're okay to run a turbo, but you probably shouldn't run a long game.

oooohhhhh

Accept it

I wonder

15:56

if we want to end the game on phase 14

15:56

could we have barbaros become whole at the start of the phase

15:56

since all of the parts should be in the same place roughly then

mm

15:57

i mean having him become whole around that time was the idea

15:57

but i still think 15 would be best lol

15:57

having everything happen in that one phase may seem a little rushed

@King Harkinian What characters would you recommend following for a read through? (edited)

15:58

Was thinking of Cortez

cortez, inigo

15:59

btw you'll probably Become Real soon

Oh damn

16:00

Should I do Murasa then?

Sure should be easy since she hasnt had much going on

16:02

And when she has, it's just been this phase and tied up with inigo

So I guess Inigo is the way to go (hah)?

16:03

That is if I want to be up on Byakuren-plotline

I mean the plotline is just 'murasa has almost all the ufos, she just needs the one in encino'

16:07

And that's where she's going

aight

16:08

Actually how many major plotlines are there in this game

there were like 5 at max, now there are like 2

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16:15

Besides I've already seen a part of Cortez's story as Laffite

maximum was around phase 7-8: -ghost crew (cortez, etc) going after john mcafee -humphrey crew (vriska, karl, scarlett) going after the kraken -kye crew (entrapta, quagsire, etc) trying to avoid fighting the kraken while sneaking past it to atlantis -king's crew (inigo, steve, patchy) trying to get the map for encino -disco monkey crew (murasa, monkey, etc) fruitlessly hunting for the king's crew

16:16

Now it's just -disco monkey crew trying to kill the king's crew who found encino -kye and ghost crew trying to finish finding barbaros's parts -vriska and scarlett trying to revive karl aboard the kye

16:16

With some other subplots like ianis and muskular trying to have gay sex in the jungle

WHAT

16:16

Oh right that's his objective

16:17

I heard something about senseless murder though?

16:17

who's doing that, Monkey?

yeah the disco monkey crew (murasa, may, monkey, carvallain) are going to try and kill steve and patchy and inigo

nvm I just saw this I need to read ghostcrew now

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LOL

I can vc whenever

I was thinking I'd go out for a walk and vc about rollover notes

18:36

and then later return to my place to write them but not vc

18:36

so I don't have to send brine out this time

Whatever works best for u

18:55

In vc now

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@Byakuren Hijiri No one is gonna be in jeantown any more, is there anywhere you want laffite to go

King Harkinian

@Byakuren Hijiri No one is gonna be in jeantown any more, is there anywhere you want laffite to go

Smoke a opp blunt

20:47

McAfee's blunt

so should he just stay there having served his purpose then?

I mean he's served his purpose since phase 6 LOL

20:48

I could've handled better I just really like

20:48

detached from this game

20:48

because I couldn't really keep up

20:49

Only managed to read up to phase 5 so far for ghost king

20:49

starting back from beginning

If you don't want to do any more with him, I could delete the character so we don't get a jeanstown channel with nothing in it

sure

If you still want to have him maybe die then I could put him on a ship

I mean that'd be

20:49

forced

20:50

That'd feel very forced so I'd rather not

20:50

I feel like what I did with him was good

20:50

but I didn't do much

Alright cool

I should save this for like

20:50

post game chat

20:50

also

20:50

Do I need to Byakuren yet?

20:50

I'm in vc yk

20:51

aight

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@King Harkinian did a duel conclude?

uhhh I don't think so, at least not a muskular-defined one

oh yeah it was just like

21:23

I heard "duel" and immediately went to muskular

lol

@King Harkinian brine can't move to kye deck?

21:29

oh that's weird

21:29

brine was talking in beach but the game said they were in jungle (edited)

oh that's strange

So do we let the tempest crew crash their ship inland

00:28

In my interpretation of the ship mechanics it's technically possible

00:29

We don't have to let them actually destroy encino/the people there though

00:29

I am barely containing my rage while interacting with them (edited)

Do they really think we're gonna be lenient with them or something lmao

00:41

LITERALLY WHAT

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00:41

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE

i dont know if i should call em all clowders cuz i think clowders actually kinda better than that lmao

Yeah she is better now

I should confront the fact that a large part of the reason I'm so up in arms about this group is that it's giving me mild anxiety

04:00

The reason for that is of course the worry of whether we can be fair to both them and the rest of the players

04:01

I want the game to have a more or less 'happy ending' but I want that to happen as naturally as possible

04:01

So I think I'm mainly concerned that the other players will fall for the tempest group's deceptions

04:01

Because if so, there's a much better chance that the 'fairest' way to resolve the ending will be unsatisfactory for everyone except 4 players (edited)

04:02

Now, I know these concerns are mainly irrational, because we can be a bit 'unfair' if we have to, in the interest of a satisfying conclusion

04:02

I just don't want to have to be

04:02

We'll see I suppose

It's very conflicted for sure

you know this is like galad coming after perrin tbh fr fr

LOL

I'm RIGHT

14:27

Book 13 mofos

It's true

14:29

"JUST LEAVE ME ALONE ASSHOLE"

@King Harkinian My kendo board meeting was supposed to be at 1600 tomorrow but instead it's probably going to be moved to 2130

15:34

2100 being lock time

Oh boy

I have a meeting at 3:30 today myself

16:12

i.e. an hour and a half after lock time

16:12

However

16:12

Today's rollover will probably be slightly fast since I don't expect there'll be any ships to really move

16:12

And most ppl are in a handful of areas

Well Mm

16:13

Idrk what to do lol cuz i kinda just found out i may be late to rollover today and its kinda necessary i be there

Not if may chucks the bone away smirk2

smirk2

I mean i assume she isnt lol

16:14

Anyways uhh idk The appt is at 12:45 and its like 40 mins from home so i could get back like anywhere from 2-3ish

Well then pop and I can do all the non-barbaros stuff

16:15

and you would just handle all your stuff and pop could prob still be there

Fair yeah Ill let u know if i can if its looking like its gonna take longer than expected

@King Harkinian nvm it was moved to 1800 not 2100

17:53

So I should be home for rollover

Ok nice

I'm in vc now

I'll be there shortly

@Byakuren Hijiri pablo is summoning you this phase

Oh boy

19:17

I'm watching TV rn

19:17

Ukraine news

@Byakuren Hijiri do u think you want to say anything during rollover or will you just be there for next phase

Why would I say anything?

20:11

let me get into VC

20:12

MURASA

20:12

YOU HAVE DRIP

20:13

Sure

20:13

I'll act very confused

20:13

LOL

20:13

LMAO

20:13

"you're free cya have fun dealing with this ily tho"

20:14

https://tenor.com/view/invisible-vanish-good-bye-teleport-bye-gif-16415619

20:15

what channel do I need to go to

@King Harkinian can I post music

20:22

also like

20:22

what do you intend to uh

20:22

immediately do

20:23

AFTER

20:23

i finish talking

20:23

Are they immediatly attacking me?

20:23

Oh btw can I say I got locked in there

20:23

for the past 3 weeks only

20:23

and it's the second time I get locked LOL

@King Harkinian wtf prophetic a song from random access memories is 3rd on my weekly rec playlist

20:25

Touch

20:25

this goes way harder than anything on discovery

IKR

20:25

It's fantastique

holy goddamn shit

RAM is incredible you gotta believe me

I gotta peep this whole album

Touch is arguably my favourite song on there but they're all awesome

jesus christ

20:26

sorry I dipped from talking I needed to distract myself

20:26

soon done with beach

@King Harkinian tell me whenever you're ready to do your part of the rollover

20:28

I'll do a funny before

20:28

something like

20:29

"wait murasa where are you going"

LOL

"BY BUDDAH WHAT IS THAT"

20:29

BOOM

Also @Undyne are you doing discobelow and beach in sequence (like, monkey charges up the ship and then it rams through beach)?

20:29

Or are you not doing that part

in sequence

Nice

20:30

Then I'll pick up where you leave off and do the encino part

you can go on

Nice

20:37

@Byakuren Hijiri Alright I'm ready

20:37

Do you want to say your thing first or should I say something ominous

do it big boy

20:37

tell me

20:37

what you play on saying

"From the direction of the jungle comes a deep rumbling..."

sure just say that

Cool

you can go ahead @King Harkinian

Nice thanks

I wonder, are you laughing your ass off while muted lol

Nah I kinda hate the tempest crew for doing this lol it's just pointless griefing

20:56

It's definitely entertaining to write though

honestly one good thing of me not knowing what's happening in game is that

20:57

my confusion as Byakuren is going to be genuine next phase LOL

yknow barbaros's fight was kinda more planned to be like

20:57

all of the ships combining their powerss and stuff to take him down

20:58

but i guess people in this game hate ships lmao

man im so busy getting this barbaros shit done but it just also feels so weird now lol

21:05

why must there still be a group out to murder a large group of people on the 2nd last phase

Just gotta do ghostship now

i think i might add an area for barbaros's ship if thats alright

21:17

i have the desc ready and everything

Sure

its just gonna be like a broadcast area that only barbaros is in

21:17

aight

Yeah

ok

21:33

when should i start doing the barbaros stuff

Whenever now

21:33

Everything else is done I think

aight

21:34

have both of the pieces been passed to barbaros now?

Yeah

21:35

Edwin threw the hat and may threw the pelvis

aight

21:40

SHOOT i forgot the perms

21:40

dammit

21:41

uhh

21:44

ok so that didnt work lol

21:44

oh well ig

21:47

aight so i think thats it

21:47

idk if the rule worked or not lol but shrug

21:49

@Pirate Lord aight so anything else?

21:49

oh wait

Don't think so, just maps maybe?

was gonna add a link to the desc

Only 2 ships left

yeah lol tru

21:50

oh right and i was gonna draw the barbaros one dammit

21:50

ok ill be a few mins

21:50

sorry bout all this lol

21:51

oh yeah i also

21:51

made this

21:51

BARBAROS’S SHIP can be seen in the air in the distance! Its flag flies in the wind.

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22:02

idk if its maybe presumptuous to say given everything, but im starting to feel like announcing an extension to phase 16 (an actual ending phase) might help idk

22:02

it wouldnt be much other than endings for us

Uh hrmmmm

i just idk lol

Ehhhhhhhh I don't think most players would be feeling it

22:02

Like

i feel kinda weird and somewhat bad about this though it was sorta built to

Only some players are gonna even care about fighting barbaros anyway

mind you the peaceful endings were getting interrupted anyways

22:03

well i suppose

So do we have anything left

22:05

Can we go thru confirms

idk i just feel like im kinda cheating some ppl out of a proper breather ending rn lol

22:05

but idk

Well there are a few ways to do it without extending the entire game

I suppose? What do u have in mind

Well

22:07

I was thinking they could threaten barbaros enough for him to stand down but then I realized that's probably not in his character

22:07

Ugh

22:07

I really don't want to extend the game

22:07

How about

22:07

Anyone who wants to fight barbaros gets a mid-phase action

Oh maybe

As long as it's used for fighting him

When would it activate? Like immediately? Or

It can be submitted any time before rollover and we could resolve them in batches

i suppose

22:09

ill do my best

22:09

anyways yeah ig we can go through confirms now?

Yeah

22:09

But you should announce the mid-phase action thing

oh ok

22:10

so how should we word that

@ Seafarer If you want to help deal with the rogue pirate Barbaros and have a chance to acquire his ship, you can submit a special mid-phase action during Phase 15! Do this by submitting a !do action any time before rollover; the action must be related to dealing with Barbaros. These actions will be resolved in batches. You will still be able to submit your normal phase action afterwards with no restrictions. (edited)

aight

22:12

That sounds good

Let me add 'during phase 15'

22:12

so you can announce it now

22:12

then we can roll over

22:13

There

22:13

Post that

22:15

@Seafarer If you want to help deal with the rogue pirate Barbaros and have a chance to acquire his ship, you can submit a special **mid-phase** action during Phase 15! Do this by submitting a `!do` action any time before rollover; the action must be related to dealing with Barbaros. These actions will be resolved in batches. You will still be able to submit your normal phase action afterwards with no restrictions.

22:15

@Barbaros

aight ty

i almost wish people in encino like could actually ignore him or something lol so these events would be a bit less isolated but eh there was never gonna be a perfect way to go about doing this and at least trying a during-phase fight is new and could help a bit

22:33

i think we forgot about the karl uh viewing

22:33

how do u move that again?

Wait

22:34

Isn't karl still on kyedeck

oh, yeah probably

oh near the end of the fight we should have the landmasses finally lift up thatd be cool writing that here to keep it in mind for later

Yeah

22:45

@Byakuren Hijiri So how do you think byakuren feels about murasa being on a pointless and bloodthirsty quest for revenge

idk I'll

22:46

improvise it

Oh yeah I just noticed

22:46

You were already rping with her there a bit

@Barbaros When do you want to resolve the first batch of barbaros actions

23:18

Should probably do like

23:19

One tonight, one tomorrow morning, and (if there are any stragglers) one before rollover

yah

23:19

*yeah

23:20

idk whenever youd be available too cuz im in a general sense available most of tonight

23:22

though actually anytime after like 7ish probably cuz ill prob be having dinner soon

8pm works

im wondering if maybe we could have another one today actually, idk

23:34

like and if possible finish it today

23:35

idk itd arguably be kinda unsatisfying/anticlimactic but like ive gotten out everything ive had planned and stuff and i get the feeling neither i or anyone else wants to have this go on that much more lol and itd make things less chaotic with barbaros gone (edited)

Sure I mean

23:37

We can do one at 7 if you want

23:37

Then another one at 9 or 10 or something

would 8 and 10 work maybe? i think i might need a bit of a breather first lol

Sure

aight ty

Np

23:39

I might announce it

So

23:49

I never made it clear if monkey buccaneer can spend money and use his new upgrade in the same phase

23:49

Should we allow that or no?

23:49

Bc he technically should've gained money after his attack last phase

23:49

But idk if he should be able to spend it and use a new upgrade this phase

@Barbaros I can resolve the first batch with u whenever you're ready (at 8 or slightly after) (edited)

aight

@Barbaros How is the barbaros health working

00:59

Superb asked if he can use muddy water against 3 of barbaros's limbs

00:59

since it's a 3 target attack

i..uhh..lmfao

01:02

i mean its creative pff but its also a wave of water

01:02

lemme see how it works

01:03

ah lol

01:04

yeah i dont think thatll work prolly cuz it wouldnt make sense to do more damage like that, its more just giving it more range than anything

01:04

he could maybe try to focus the water or something and itd do more but not 3x

Ok sounds good

also idk, maybe give him like 10 health?

01:05

or so

01:05

we'll see how much damage everyones doing cumulatively

01:05

cuz ideally he'll be close to dead

01:07

oh right i have to do an action

shall we begin

01:12

So we've got KYEDECK: entrapta, orla, quagsire GHOSTBELOW: cortez (I'll let this count slightly), demoman, koeia BEACH: -Maerk, mononobe ENCINO: -carvallain, muskular, terraria

01:13

and barbaros himself

01:13

I'm thinking muskular and maerk's actions will distract him enough to reduce his damage or make his attacks to the beach miss

maybe make some of them miss

Yeah

01:15

So how do u feel about some of the players trying to get onto barbaros's ship

im down with that tbh id probably just push them back off before dying so people cant really get stuck there

Makes sense

01:17

Can u vc

i dont think i can talk rn, sorry

Ok

01:18

So

01:18

Here's the odd thing

01:18

Ppl are trying to go over to the ship

01:19

But the intention was that each player could only have one mid-phase action

ah

01:19

tbf idk if that was clear lol

01:19

idk if id mind if they did another action while aboard the ship tho its a bit weird

Well sure

01:19

ig

01:19

So then let's see

hm

01:22

im wondering on how to format this lol

KYEDECK: -quagsire muddy waters barbaros, does 1.5 dmg -entrapta molotovs barbaros, 2 dmg maybe? -orla latches onto the ship and all 3 climb across? GHOSTBELOW: -cortez heals himself -demoman shoots koeia out the cannon -koeia hits barbaros and chomps off part of him (3 dmg?) BEACH: -maerk distracts barbaros by calling him gay -mononobe tries to explosive flip at him but it just backfires on her (no dmg) ENCINO: -carvallain shoots crossbow (1 dmg) -muskular throws cookies at him, distracts him -terraria asks for help, what should he say?

01:23

Oh lemme move to

@Barbaros do you plan to have barbaros attack during every batch

yeah

01:54

though theres only gonna be like 2 lol

@Barbaros we done for that batch then?

believe so

Sweet

im thinking i might do it so barbaros tries to crash his boat onshore but they stop him before he does it lmao

Lol

@King Harkinian when will u be available?

Half an hour

aight

I think hmm

02:41

So uh

should i announce rollover for 1030 or sometin

I think they wanted vriska to get the killing blow on barbaros

02:41

but maia isn't on until tomorrow

I do want that

02:41

ah

wat do

mm

02:41

yeah idk

02:42

such is the issue with doing it this way lol tho such is the complication with objective in general, in a larger sense

02:42

it just feels like its been going so perfect rn and id feel like breaking the flow if i stopped now but i guess again thats how objective be sometimes

W

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03:11

W for nup

Reposting this

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Wow I missed a lot while asleep

08:10

Mid phase actions huh

08:10

(Extremely tilted towards US time zone people)

@King Harkinian @Barbaros I maybe should have vocalized my thoughts more before rollover ended but I went to sleep early

13:40

So I'll say it here

13:41

While I preferred a 15 phase game, I would not have vouched for including both a boss battle and a cooldown phase for the same p15

13:41

And I believe we should announce a phase 16 as the final phase

13:41

With no boss battles or anything

i mean id still be down with that prolly but idk where spaceman is

14:00

(tho tbh i still wouldnt put it past tempest to just use that phase as another attempt to kill everyone)

Boss battle is literally about to be over

14:33

We can probably end it rn if maia sent an action

14:34

Then rest of phase is for ending

14:39

Like here's the thing

14:39

We already did the barbaros action thing

14:40

Let's wrap it up

14:40

And see how things feel after it's resolved

14:40

If it still feels like the ending will be too rushed, we can add an extra phase

14:40

But I suspect it won't be rushed

14:41

Because next phase would basically be "hey we finished everything now we have 24 hours to sit around before our chill ending"

14:42

Because the tempest will be mostly dead

14:42

Also

14:43

This week of GMing has burned me out hard and I really really don't want to have another day of this

14:43

I just want to be done

14:43

Please

14:43

Not saying I haven't enjoyed it or I haven't been healthy, I just am tired

14:48

How about this

14:48

Once barbaros is dead

14:48

We simply ask the players if they want an extra phase

@Barbaros When would you be available to do the next and final batch of barb actions

uh im makin food rn but anytime after whenever ur ready

Ok

15:28

How about we do it in like

15:28

15 minutes?

15:28

Or 30

30s fine

15:31

11 seems good

15:32

maybe announce it again

Will do

aight ty

np

!howmanychannels

Your server currently has 415 channels. The max is 500. You're okay to run a turbo, but you should definitley NOT run a long game.

Screw it

15:49

How about this

15:49

We resolve the tempest stuff this phase

15:49

Then run a mini phase 16 where people can come to encino for the party

15:49

That's right we're going balls to the wall experimental

15:49

How does that sound

maybe, tho how mini do we want it to be?

Eh I guess we could just do it in endings as an epilogue

15:51

We don't need it to be a whole separate phase

15:51

I just thought it could be fun to let ppl interact one last time without the stress of ppl being hostile

15:51

It would be like

15:51

Half an hour to an hour or something lol (edited)

15:52

It'd all be part of today's rollover

15:52

Now that I say it like that, I like it less

idk it could be kinda cool? but idk

15:52

i was personally thinking tho

15:52

that wed at least give everyone like

15:53

one last ending action past this phase

15:53

so its sorta separate from the fighting stuff

15:53

idk

Oh yeah

15:53

That's

15:53

Basically what that would be

tbh its something i may consider bringing up in design

15:54

i mentioned it a bit in spectator chat

15:55

to have like

15:55

a set "ending action" that is separate from the actual phases

15:55

so they dont get compromised by stuff like this

Well

but shrug

That's basically their movespecial

15:55

In the last phase

15:55

That's how most recent games have handled things like that

fair yeah

15:56

i guess movements wouldnt really be a thing that people would have to do otherwise still

Yeah

15:59

So I can't vc for this but

15:59

Let's see who we have actions for

16:00

-molly -edwin -murasa -scarlett -vriska -may

16:00

molly, edwin, scarlett, and vriska are attacking barbaros

16:00

murasa is flooding his ship so its features can't be used

16:00

may is trying to get onto his ship

16:02

areas: GHOSTBELOW: molly GHOSTDECK: edwin KYEDECK: scarlett, vriska BEACH: may JUNGLE: murasa

16:02

and then barbaros tries to ram the shore and his ship just washes up there

16:03

order should be ghostbelow, ghostdeck, beach, jungle, kyedeck

actually i was thinking he starts trying to do it near the start but is killed before he can do it

makes sense

16:04

that sounds good

or maybe as soon as it gets onto the shore but not any further

well whatever u feel like works

16:05

Which actions do you want to write?

yea

16:05

hm

Or should I write them and you just handle being barbaros

kyedeck for sure id say and that'll be the last one

Cool

16:05

We'll need @💀 to roll vriska's dice

16:05

OR

maybe jungle first?

I guess I could

16:05

Well

oh right that

I think the flooding should happen in the middle

16:06

It doesn't render the area inaccessible, but unusable, so it'll basically make the kye crew unable to plunder it

ah ok

The ship is still sailable but none of its features will be usable

16:11

So

16:11

Should we start?

aight

16:12

so hmm order

ghostbelow, ghostdeck, barbaros starts to ram the ship, beach, jungle, kyedeck

16:12

or

16:12

maybe he starts to ram the ship first

16:13

and then beach, jungle, ghostdeck, ghostbelow, kyedeck

16:13

All the attacks hit almost at the same time but vriska gets the final blow

aight

Ok

16:14

So then do you want to start it?

16:14

With talk from barbaros?

4, 6, 8, 1, 8, 7, 4, 7

16:29

idk what site akk uses

16:29

this was from 'calculator.net'

16:29

this would give her +2

ah ok though she seemingly was doing her whole thing

16:30

and given its like the last thing and we're letting her do it anyways

Oh yeah she's trying to like

16:30

go all out

could just copy the 8 d8s from earlier

Sure

tho i gotta look up what that form thing looks like

Can I start

16:30

Also (edited)

16:30

I can vc now

16:31

Hello

16:33

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/942894882102575164/943241680465834084/unknown.png

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hm

17:06

so what should i do as pfp now lol

Idk lmao

17:07

Maybe just

17:07

The full barbaros skeleton in coffin

17:08

Also

17:08

@Barbaros how does this sound Now that Barbaros has been dealt with, make sure to send your regular phase actions before the 2PM EST deadline (in 2 hours)! We're discussing options for whether there should be some form of minor extension to ensure satisfying conclusions, but Phase 15 actions will be resolved at the normal time until further notice. (edited)

id maybe specify "slight" extension but yeah

Yeah

17:08

good idea

aight sounds good

Kendo meeting soon over

17:40

Can u fill me in on what go on

Well barbaros is vanquished

i died! :)

I love not being around to GM my own game

But pablo flooded barbaros's ship's deck so entrapta/vriska/etc are trying to figure out how to have orla still get her objective (by plundering valuables off barbaros's ship, which they can't do easily while it's flooded) and have vriska and scarlett fly the ship away after (edited)

I see

And as for everyone else

17:42

They're just trying to have their endings while avoiding the tempest crew

17:42

A lot of ppl are avoiding encino and hunkering down on their own ships for that reason

I see

17:43

No extra phase?

Well we didn't need one for barbaros

Alright

He's dealt with

Sure

The only reason to have one

17:43

Is if we want the tempest crew to get dealt with this phase

People do seem to enjoy wind down epilogue phases

and have the last phase be for winding down

to be fair it might not be too much more work for us

17:44

cuz the ending phase isnt exactly an extra rollover if nothing happens

I think i gotta focus on the meeting more soon but I should be back for rollover

itd just be a slightly delayed endings

But it's getting to be short notice enough that giving an extra phase now will change a lot of people's calculus

We're just doing some kast things

perhaps

Yeah it'd be short notice

again im still worried

17:44

the tempest would just

17:44

keep trying anyways

Well

17:45

Any tempest members in encino (aside from carvallain) are tasting my dinner blaster

17:45

Monkey buccaneer and terraria pirate are probably dead

17:45

Murasa is dead if she ends the phase in encino because Inigo is attacking her

17:45

May might be the only one to survive and even then we'll see

Oh fuck imma have to like

17:46

Read up after this meeting

17:46

I assume that'll take hours

Well I can summarize more

17:47

Most of the important stuff that's happened was barbaros related and that's done now

I see

It's really just "ppl trying to get their endings and hoping the tempest doesn't screw it all up"

17:47

now

Cool

17:47

Not cool on tempest's part

Very

17:47

They've managed to make several players seriously irritated with them (which I find validating)

Their villainy seems to be rippling

17:47

Based on vault

Yes

17:48

Wowowwwww I was like

17:48

Wowww

17:48

I was actually

17:48

I need to stop myself

17:48

I know for a fact cathode is legit annoyed

17:49

And seeing how waffles just interacted with them

17:49

I literally had my finger over the kick button

17:51

Btw

17:51

Anyone have any thoughts on this again https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914551310651645982/946621263508561990/unknown.png

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Meeting over

17:51

Gonna be home soon

Cool

Gonna eat and hop in vc

Rad

King Harkinian

Anyone have any thoughts on this again https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914551310651645982/946621263508561990/unknown.png

ahh sorry im hmm

17:54

i kinda wanna say let him? but i also dunno if i wanna help with fighting stuff at this point idk, its really hard to make "impartial" judgements with these sometimes lol, and like try to make the most ppl happy

17:56

ill look at the profile ig

17:58

yeah..mm..im tempted to leave it as a game-time desicion but if we do that itd be kinda unfair to just tell them then so i guess im leaning to allow it i suppose tho we could also just let em know right when they make an action if its gonna be an issue

God

17:58

I'm so stressed

17:58

Should we just give them a phase 16

yeah..i..idk im sorry lol im not really helpin like in a sense im kinda tempted cuz ik some are frustrated and some want it but im worried it could happen and then nothing really improves and then we're just prolonging the frustration

Screw it

18:00

Vote

18:00

I'll wait until pop is home

18:00

And if they agree

18:00

We let the players vote

18:00

on if they want it or not

aight

18:02

what do gms normally do when their nps die btw? or is there even precedent for that lol i think with the threat gone i should at least change back to the skeleton one but i could also just change pfps entirely

You just don't play the character any more, you only interact as a GM

18:04

Change ur pfp to the skeleton in the coffin

fair yeah

18:04

maybe ill do like the replica one they get after lol

Sure lol

I'm home

18:12

vc?

Yes

18:19

@Barbaros when can u vc again?

18:20

We're considering doing

18:20

A bonus mini phase

18:20

Lasting a couple hours

18:20

Where people just send movespecials

18:20

No actions

oh mm maybe

18:21

if yall agree with that im fine with it

We could even have it like

18:21

The channels are open until tomorrow

18:21

So people can chat at leisure

18:21

Until we wrap things up for endings

maybe

18:22

i still kinda share others' worries that itd like

18:22

not fix/change too much tho

we could explain this more in vc

18:23

But essentially objective players have been shown to enjoy wind down phases after the conflict is cleared

18:23

especially if it means no risk of surprise attacks or anything (in this case by involving no actions)

oh yeah if it necessitates no actions

it would also give players a calmer environment to chat in for their character wrap ups

then yeah

yeah that's the idea

though i also feel like

only movespecials for endings

man itd be nicer if people were also split up lol

18:24

this whole "everyones within several areas almost all covered by moveinstants" is kinda asking for chaos

18:24

we could maybe just have people like choose what area they wanna be on together and then just cut off moveinstants altogether but idk if theyd have enough time now to decide that properly

So

18:25

We'll have people be allowed to moveinstant

18:25

But most of the tempest crew will be dead

18:25

How does that sound

you know what I should do for brine's birthday tomorrow

lmao

I should bake cookies in the morning

oh shit what

18:25

its brine's birthday?

tomorrow

well yeah lol

18:26

damn

if tempest is gone it'd be chill imo

18:26

and there's 3 areas to moveinstant between

@Barbaros when can u vc

well 5

18:26

6

yeah

18:26

so it should be fine

18:26

also seconding spaceman

oh, well hm i suppose

18:27

i do wanna still kinda possibly simplify things but thats alright

18:27

and i can prob vc in a bit im about to make lunch

18:27

ill be there by 2

We'll simplify things

18:32

@Barbaros how abt we cut out the jungle and make only top decks available?

18:32

that gives us 5 areas

well

18:32

hm

18:32

could we maybe just make beach/jungle one area or something?

18:33

i feel like the jungle at least has the bench which idk if ianis or muskular would wanna use it but it might be satisfying to them

18:33

whereas the only use for the beach is just that its near the boats

That takes work thoooo

18:33

We could just

18:33

Add a bit

18:33

mentioning the jungle

18:33

and the bench

18:33

in the beach areadesc

yeah thats fine

oh did

18:46

did barbaros die

18:46

i'm sorry i haven't been reading up on anything for the past three days

yeah

18:49

don't worry there's a lot of shit

I think we can probably lock soon

21:18

Like in the next half hour

So uh

21:28

We have more earlogs than we had players lmao

21:28

34 earlogs

21:28

33 players

21:28

144 rules

lmao damn

And 109 items

@Barbaros I'm about to head out, do you think you can lock all channels at 6?

22:31

And then open up postgame chat by moving #why-is-the-rum-gone to the general category and making it public

aight

22:35

will do

So whats happening

im locking stuff

23:06

tho a couple still have a convo finishing up

Aite

oh wait shoot

23:08

we still gotta do one thing

23:08

i think vriska needs a poll

Oh yeah...

23:08

I guess we can open party chat now

23:09

And make the poll quickly

23:09

We can just ping players when that's done

yeah fair

23:10

should i ping everyone or just seafarers for game end

Ping everyone in party chat

23:11

Seafarers for the poll

oh oke

23:11

so nothing in announcements?

Not yet

aight

@Pirate Lord ending writing time?

HNHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

16:34

https://tenor.com/view/im-okay-gif-8875543

16:35

yeah

16:35

so

16:35

the nice thing is we can do epilogues on a crew by crew basis

16:35

there are 5 basically

Actually

16:36

Yeah

16:36

Let's write epilogue texts crew by crew

meet me in #rollover-notes

and just write individual ending names for players

yeah

meet you in vc?

sure

16:37

@Barbaros feel free to hop in whenever u can

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BeQFpmrLG52sCbPfp62cfWDAs-MRR8zbNPpna-5-Cvo/edit?usp=sharing

Pirate game endings

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17:12

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from amal:

17:42

Become retconned, Leaving a hole in everyone's memory where Ceres once was. For one without a goal or mark might as well have never existed at all. [Excerpt]: "But the events are all written here aren't they? We can't just erase them." The phoenix called. Her flaming wings the only light of two in a black void. There was sheer nothingness around them apart from small blinking lights in the distance. "Very well then. The marks made, for how they small they have been, Are still critical. We cannot deny this." Spinning around the phoenix like a serpent, the dragon responded. It held a bright, small purple box in it's claws which it held up to it's right eye. Inside of it a thousand tiny lights danced around from uncountable lives. "So the corruption has spread to an uncontainable medium. Is what I am proposing here correct, Aureus?" The dragon put the box away to look at the phoenix with the sincerest look it could muster. The box paused itself as it's light fizzled out. "Indeed Providence. we cannot cease the spread of information. Once the word is out our island in the sea of time may as well connect it's first bridges." "Oh what were we thinking. We should've informed our diplomats of their mission before sending them out instead of leaving loose cannons to their own devices." Providence curled up, picking at her feathers. They had made a foolish decision and yet they hadn't. They are the figureheads but it was never their decision. "The Observatory tells me that our call has left quite an outspoken response." "I must say that is more than I expected." "A lot of hatred and a tiny bit of compliment." Providence reared her head at the Observatory. Taking her turn to look inside and view the countless lives passing by like passengers on a train. "Shall we start preparing for visitors perhaps?" "We must. I'll inform sea about it... I'll also beg sea to aid clean up the mess we've made while I'm at it." Aureus sighed. For even he wasn't all-knowing.

imagine writting endings lol couldn't be me

19:11

Good luck though!

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